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No. Go forth and shoot.
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I cradle mine lovingly as I set it in its case.
At the range, I carefully remove it and set it out on the bench. I check all the action, remove the chamber flag, gently insert the magazine and chamber a round, making sure the safety is on.
Then I flip the safety off and shoot the heck out of it for the next two or three hours.
I cradle mine lovingly as I set it in its case.
At the range, I carefully remove it and set it out on the bench. I check all the action, remove the chamber flag, gently insert the magazine and chamber a round, making sure the safety is on.
Then I flip the safety off and shoot the heck out of it for the next two or three hours.
best vid
there is a huge diiusuccion on here about break in, but most of us agree its all a bunch of bs.
this is my fav video on how to break in your new rifle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRRahHX9Zkg
there is a huge diiusuccion on here about break in, but most of us agree its all a bunch of bs.
this is my fav video on how to break in your new rifle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRRahHX9Zkg
Probably my favorite video! That has made me laugh for a few years!
That's interesting the guys at ga precision have a very specific break in process for there rifles, of which I am awaiting one 
Some "internet asshattery" from Gale McMillan:
Try to get some views of the most notable & authority Gale McMillan, it will give you some insight what is right. There are a lot of
recommendation that I read but you will be enlightened once you read one of the forum that Gale McMillan was involve regarding
break in of the new barrel. You will be able to realized what is the myth versus reality. I think it was M14 Forum, discussion of various armorers & Gale McMillan . You will like this one guys & will really enlighten you about the subject of BARREL BRAKE IN.
recommendation that I read but you will be enlightened once you read one of the forum that Gale McMillan was involve regarding
break in of the new barrel. You will be able to realized what is the myth versus reality. I think it was M14 Forum, discussion of various armorers & Gale McMillan . You will like this one guys & will really enlighten you about the subject of BARREL BRAKE IN.
I followed my barrel break in procedure to the letter from ArmaLite for my first child. Then I realized how stupid and useless it was and now I shoot the shit outta it. I don't even use copper solvent in my barrels until 400-500 rounds have passed through. When Im done for the day, I run the bore snake through ONE time, clean the carbon out of the action and im done.
Seriously, how is a cloth patch supposed to remove a metal machined burr? Please explain that one!
Seriously, how is a cloth patch supposed to remove a metal machined burr? Please explain that one!
he had me going until the cow barrel - hes got a pretty dry sense of humor, I don't think I could keep from laughing if I made a video like that.
- hes got a pretty dry sense of humor, I don't think I could keep from laughing if I made a video like that.That's interesting the guys at ga precision have a very specific break in process for there rifles, of which I am awaiting one
The barrel is outsourced. The regime for break-in is largely a consumer demanded aspect.
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Here is a little longer quote (I got from Accurateshooter.com):
There are three schools of thought on barrel break-in. First, famed barrel-maker Gail McMillan believed “less is more”. Simply shoot five shots, clean, shoot another five shots, clean, and then clean every 5-10 shots or so over the life of the barrel. He argued that the “one-shot, one-clean” ritual was a gimmick devised by barrel makers to wear out barrels more quickly so they can sell more product. He rightly points out that every shot down the tube just reduces your barrel’s maximum accuracy life.
The second school of thought, with Krieger in this camp, suggests to shoot and clean after every shot for 5 shots, then again after every 3 shots, until fouling is not noticeable: “Initially you should perform the shoot-one-shot-and-clean cycle for five cycles. If fouling hasn’t reduced, fire five more cycles and so on until fouling begins to drop off. At that point shoot three shots before cleaning and observe. If fouling is reduced, fire five shots before cleaning.” Full Article.
The third and last school of thought says to clean aggressively after every shot for a dozen shots or more, and to use an abrasive lapping compound such as JB after each of the first few shots. The idea is that this will “polish” up the throat to reduce fouling and enhance velocity. Along with bore paste, you can fire-lap the bore using bullets impregnated with fine abrasives. This is done most easily with the Tubb Final Finish system which contains bullets with five different grit levels. So, what procedure should you follow? We think Gale McMillan is probably right, but he was talking about fine custom barrels that are already hand-lapped to a mirror finish. If your barrel is rough to start out with, the other methods have some merit. We would not use Final Finish on a hand-lapped custom barrel however.
----Kreiger also knows a thing or two about barrels, then there is a guy that uses a lot of barrels David Tubb, he thinks McMillan is"probably right" when talking about fine custom tubes. There is more than one answer.
There are three schools of thought on barrel break-in. First, famed barrel-maker Gail McMillan believed “less is more”. Simply shoot five shots, clean, shoot another five shots, clean, and then clean every 5-10 shots or so over the life of the barrel. He argued that the “one-shot, one-clean” ritual was a gimmick devised by barrel makers to wear out barrels more quickly so they can sell more product. He rightly points out that every shot down the tube just reduces your barrel’s maximum accuracy life.
The second school of thought, with Krieger in this camp, suggests to shoot and clean after every shot for 5 shots, then again after every 3 shots, until fouling is not noticeable: “Initially you should perform the shoot-one-shot-and-clean cycle for five cycles. If fouling hasn’t reduced, fire five more cycles and so on until fouling begins to drop off. At that point shoot three shots before cleaning and observe. If fouling is reduced, fire five shots before cleaning.” Full Article.
The third and last school of thought says to clean aggressively after every shot for a dozen shots or more, and to use an abrasive lapping compound such as JB after each of the first few shots. The idea is that this will “polish” up the throat to reduce fouling and enhance velocity. Along with bore paste, you can fire-lap the bore using bullets impregnated with fine abrasives. This is done most easily with the Tubb Final Finish system which contains bullets with five different grit levels. So, what procedure should you follow? We think Gale McMillan is probably right, but he was talking about fine custom barrels that are already hand-lapped to a mirror finish. If your barrel is rough to start out with, the other methods have some merit. We would not use Final Finish on a hand-lapped custom barrel however.
----Kreiger also knows a thing or two about barrels, then there is a guy that uses a lot of barrels David Tubb, he thinks McMillan is"probably right" when talking about fine custom tubes. There is more than one answer.
The fourth school of thought is just shoot and clean it when accuracy starts to drop off.
When I get a new barrel I like to shoot 15-20 rounds and clean it to see if there is any noticeably bad copper fouling. Usually on hand lapped barrels from good barrel makers there is hardly any fouling present. I wouldn't call it a "break in" rather more like a personal "test" to see how it cleans up. Then I just shoot it until accuracy starts to suffer then give the bore a good clean and make a notation of the round count. The "barrel break in procedures" are just a waste of my time IMO and I choose not to do it. Your barrel, your money, your choice.
I just shoot the damn thing..... I used to do this, but I've come to this conclusion... F#CK it! All of my sub-moa rifles have never been "broke in". About the only thing I'll do with a new rifle is check down the barrel with a light and run a snake with CLP on it once. Then go to town and enjoy the rifle.
You want the bull barrel not the cow barrel!! That's some good stuff. I have never broken in any of my guns just take them home a say well let's see what it will do.
Some makers say that the cleaning in between shots is also to give the barrel time to cool down. Something like the steel doesn't get a "memory", and accuracy suffers if allowed to get too hot in the initial few shots. Supposedly the rifle will string shots later in life as it heats up if this memory isnt there. I am skeptical if this is true, but one box of shells to do the break in won't kill me if they are right. lol
It depends on the rifles use. If you got a range gun then it's probably not needed. But all of my rifles get broken in first. I hear people say all the time that my guns group well. Is it because I break them in? It could be. I have never tried not breaking a barrel in so I can't comment on that. I don't shoot once and clean to remove burrs, I do it to get heat cycles though the barrel.
Read this. Form your own opinion. Drive on.
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting/showthread.php?t=37176
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting/showthread.php?t=37176
That's interesting the guys at ga precision have a very specific break in process for there rifles, of which I am awaiting one
I would reccomend you follow what GA Precision says .I have a Crusader and followed there break inn to the letter and mine shoots Great.
A friend of mine did'nt it shoots good but not nearly as good as mine
