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BREAKING: Oregon governor authorizes state police to use force against GOP senators for stalling climate bill

When 2 or 3 counties and or 4 or 5 cities gain control over an entire state there is a basic problem that needs fixed.

There should be some manner of protection for the rest of the people.

Eventually the situation will get nasty.
May be the only recourse left by now.
And ya wonder why the left wants rid of the electoral college.
 
When 2 or 3 counties and or 4 or 5 cities gain control over an entire state there is a basic problem that needs fixed.

There should be some manner of protection for the rest of the people.

Eventually the situation will get nasty.
May be the only recourse left by now.

Chicago - the rest of Illinois
NYC - the rest of New York
Pierce-King-Snohomish counties - the rest of Washington
Portland - the rest of Oregon
Denver - the rest of Colorado

Plenty of reasons to defend the Electoral College to the death
 
Unfortunately he is?!

Oregon, Republicans largely opposed the bill—and so did some Democrats. However, the bill was sponsored by Senator Brian Boquist (R-Dallas), who drafted it after his stepson, a veteran of the U.S. Navy, committed suicide, according to The Oregonian.
Boquist hoped that the bill would allow authorities to intervene, particularly in cases where troubled veterans became a demonstrable danger to themselves or others. Boquist was the only Republican who voted in favor of the bill—it was carried by Oregon's Democrat majority in the House and Senate.
Politicians shouldn’t legislate and citizens shouldn’t vote using emotions as the deciding factor. I shouldn’t have to blow in a breathalyzer to start my car because some politician or activist had a family member die in a drunk driving accident for example.
 
Chicago - the rest of Illinois
NYC - the rest of New York
Pierce-King-Snohomish counties - the rest of Washington
Portland - the rest of Oregon
Denver - the rest of Colorado

Plenty of reasons to defend the Electoral College to the death

If we get a chance to remake things, we should put a roadblock in the future by doing an Electoral college in each state for all things elected and all representation. like 1 vote per county on state wide things, 1 representative per county in the legislatures (with of course only 1 vote) & we set the county lines permanently and more can't be added or split up. That way the local states also have to represent all the people by landmass and not just the city folks... which of course will create howls of "votes don't count" but will be exactly what is needed to prevent the rapid decline again.
 
But Boquist started the red flag in Oregon based on emotions!
That sucks for a legislator to do this!

On a totally different subject: driving is a privilege. Not a right.
And all legislators will tell you that.
 
Chicago - the rest of Illinois
NYC - the rest of New York
Pierce-King-Snohomish counties - the rest of Washington
Portland - the rest of Oregon
Denver - the rest of Colorado

Plenty of reasons to defend the Electoral College to the death


This right here.

If we went by purely "majority" votes, this country would have already been sodomized by the socialists multiple times and thrown to the hyenas to eat.

The reason why the leftists are so adamant about abolishing the electoral college is because they are 100% certain that they can collect a majority vote. Importing a whole bunch of pest ridden illegals is just one way. Indoctrination of the young is another. No electoral college, the statists would have the green light to mold this country at will into whatever they like.
 
If we get a chance to remake things, we should put a roadblock in the future by doing an Electoral college in each state for all things elected and all representation. like 1 vote per county on state wide things, 1 representative per county in the legislatures (with of course only 1 vote) & we set the county lines permanently and more can't be added or split up. That way the local states also have to represent all the people by landmass and not just the city folks... which of course will create howls of "votes don't count" but will be exactly what is needed to prevent the rapid decline again.
And permanently ban ballot initiatives as a means of changing the state's code or constitution (as is possible in my state)
 
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The reason why the leftists are so adamant about abolishing the electoral college is because they are 100% certain that they can collect a majority vote.

It's really hard to win the election when the country is full of stupid lazy, greedy people that have the Give Me / I am Owed mentality and one side says free everything paid for by somebody else and the other side says... how about freedom to work hard and do what you want with the fruits of your hard earned money....
 
Bend the rules; they always break eventually; planned obsolescence taken to a new low.

Executive overreach is the new flavor of the day from the Left; any legal abomination in the name of the socialist agenda.

Black is white, white is black; nothing is as it was; traditional values are now racist, etc. The press is the (not new) enabler of outrage. Not new, just more emboldened. The Big Lie leads; better if it bleeds, too...

Won't be long now; buy more ammo.

Greg
 
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I’d just like to know what their end goal is?

Wonder no more.

The end goal is total enslavement of the population of the planet to the whims and dictates of the super global elite who will allow some of you to live in little hive like apartment factories to produce goods and services for the elites or be their personal servants.
 
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You can't play chess with anyone who disavows the rules and reinterprets them to suit their own benefit.

Nor any other endeavor. IMHO, such distortion is the sign of a corrupted mentality.

Eventually, the situation will get nasty?

Of course it will; that's outright goal of the Left, to call out and entice the Right to do something decisive about the distortion. It's a scam, leading to an excuse to bring the full power of the government to bear in crushing the Right.

How much of what we say here can be interpreted to back such allegation?

Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.

--Frank Outlaw

When we play their game, it's not to our benefit.

Greg
 
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Wonder no more.

The end goal is total enslavement of the population of the planet to the whims and dictates of the super global elite who will allow some of you to live in little hive like apartment factories to produce goods and services for the elites or be their personal servants.

Won’t ever happen. There is too many of us slaves.
 
First it was Tobacco; to demonstrate that it could be done, to refine the methodology, and to establish the mantle of a righteous crusade in the public interest.

Now it's alcohol and firearms. Funny (NOT) how the searchlights of repression hold tobacco, alcohol, and firearms in a common glare.

Remember, the very first rebellion in our Nation was about tax and alcohol, not slavery or states rights.

The tax was $.06 a gallon. Modern equivalent of $.06 in 1800. Taxation, etc. In his decision, Chief Justice Marshall said: “That the power of taxing it [the bank] by the States may be exercised so as to destroy it, is too obvious to be denied” (p. 427), and “That the power to tax involves the power to destroy … [is] not to be denied”

Thus, at $.06 a gallon, the rate of taxation was 25%, rendering what had been unprofitable as an agricultural endeavor prior to distillation again unprofitable as distillation as well, essentially destroying distillation as a capitalist endeavor.

The 1800s: Smashing the Booze Ceiling

A number of factors led to an explosion of alcohol consumption in the early 1800s. First, the British halted their participation in the American molasses/rum trade, objecting to its connections with slavery, while the federal government also began to tax rum in the 1790s. At the same time, the settlement of the so-called “corn belt” in the Midwest created large new supplies of corn, which was cheaper and more profitable to convert into whiskey than it was to transport great distances without spoiling. Thus,“ Western farmers could make no profit shipping corn overland to eastern markets, so they distilled corn into ‘liquid assets.’ By the 1820s, whiskey sold for twenty-five cents a gallon, making it cheaper than beer, wine, coffee, tea, or milk.”

In short, whiskey was extremely cheap and extremely available, and American consumption soared as a result. As Okrent describes in Last Call, the number of distilleries in the nation increased five-fold, to 14,000 in between 1790 and 1810. He writes that “in cities it was widely understood that common workers would fail to come to work on Mondays, staying home to wrestle with the echoes and aftershocks of a weekend binge. By 1830, the tolling of a town bell at 11 a.m. and again at 4 p.m. marked ‘grog time.’”

Note that the government's response [to the rebellion] was the spark that resulted in the creation of the Republican party.
Following years of aggression with tax collectors, the region finally exploded in a confrontation that had President Washington respond by sending troops to quell what some feared could become a full-blown revolution. Opposition to the whiskey tax and the rebellion itself built support for the Republicans, which overtook Washington’s Federalist Party for power in 1802.

The peace envoy failed, and Washington, under the auspices of the Militia Acts of 1792, assumed emergency power to assemble more than 12,000 men from the surrounding states and eastern Pennsylvania as a federal militia.

The large and well-armed militia marched into western Pennsylvania and was met with angry citizens but little violence. When a rebel army didn’t appear, the militia rounded up suspected rebels instead.

However, the rebellion’s instigators had already fled, and the militia’s prisoners weren’t involved in the rebellion. They were marched to Philadelphia to stand trial regardless. Only two men were found guilty of treason, and both were pardoned by Washington.

Vice President Burr ran for governor of New York State in 1804, and Hamilton campaigned against him as unworthy. Taking offense, Burr challenged him to a duel on July 11, 1804, in which Burr shot and mortally wounded Hamilton, who died the following day.

The federal response to the Whiskey Rebellion was widely believed to be a critical test of federal authority, one that Washington’s fledgling government met with success.

The whiskey tax that inspired the rebellion remained in effect until 1802. Under the leadership of President Thomas Jefferson and the Republican Party (which, like many citizens, opposed Hamilton’s Federalist tax policies), the tax was repealed after continuing to be almost impossible to collect.

In the years since, legislation was enacted to remedy this inadequacy, while agencies were established to enforce that legislation.

Over time, Militias were draped in disrepute, and efforts to criminalize common practices were accompanied by other orchestrated manipulations of public opinion. Much of the disrepute resulted from the government's own abuse of power under the Militia Act of 1792.

What's old is new, what's new is old...

Greg
 
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But Boquist started the red flag in Oregon based on emotions!
That sucks for a legislator to do this!

On a totally different subject: driving is a privilege. Not a right.
And all legislators will tell you that.
They can blow it out their ass.
Driving is a privilege...
Who paid for the roads?
Who paid/pays for the upkeep?
Who pays for the enforcement of rules on that road?
Who pays for the vehicle that they drive down those roads?
Who pays for the insurance for that vehicle to drive on those roads?
Who pays the taxes to the middle of those roads if they own land along those roads?
I'm seeing a trend here...

R
 
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They can blow it out their ass.
Driving is a privilege...
Who paid for the roads?
Who paid/pays for the upkeep?
Who pays for the enforcement of rules on that road?
Who pays for the vehicle that they drive down those roads?
Who pays for the insurance for that vehicle to drive on those roads?
Who pays the taxes to the middle of those roads if the own land along those roads?
I'm seeing a trend here...

R

Hahaha! LMAO.
The left is trying to trash the Constitution and 1st and 2nd Amendment!
You think you have a leg to stand on concerning driving PRIVILEGE!
MASS TRANSIT is your next battle!
Think you've been taxed for roads, gas, registration, etc.
Wait till you start paying for Mass transit.
The bastards have been milking us here in Portland since the early 90's on mass transit.
IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE!
 
Oregon resident here. State law is very clear - a police officer may only make an arrest if a person is suspected of committing a crime, and a crime is defined as an offense for which jail time is a possible punishment. They can't arrest you for jaywalking, littering or driving without a seatbelt; they can only write you a ticket and send you on your way.

Note that the Governor only "authorized" the State Police to round them up; she didn't "order" them to do it. This happened a few years ago when the Republicans controlled the legislature; they made the same hollow threats and nothing happened.

It's all just posturing for the TV cameras.
 
Oregon resident here. State law is very clear - a police officer may only make an arrest if a person is suspected of committing a crime, and a crime is defined as an offense for which jail time is a possible punishment. They can't arrest you for jaywalking, littering or driving without a seatbelt; they can only write you a ticket and send you on your way.

Note that the Governor only "authorized" the State Police to round them up; she didn't "order" them to do it. This happened a few years ago when the Republicans controlled the legislature; they made the same hollow threats and nothing happened.

It's all just posturing for the TV cameras.


so did you vote for kate brown?
 
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its best for america if they start killing off each other

Oregon resident here. State law is very clear - a police officer may only make an arrest if a person is suspected of committing a crime, and a crime is defined as an offense for which jail time is a possible punishment. They can't arrest you for jaywalking, littering or driving without a seatbelt; they can only write you a ticket and send you on your way.

Note that the Governor only "authorized" the State Police to round them up; she didn't "order" them to do it. This happened a few years ago when the Republicans controlled the legislature; they made the same hollow threats and nothing happened.

It's all just posturing for the TV cameras.
 
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