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Charlottesville Today = Idiots vs Idiots

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Still not too soon....

Sirhr

One could say Ram tough...

R
 
And now they're gonna go full retard in TEXAS on 9/11? Really? Good luck with that..............
 
And now they're gonna go full retard in TEXAS on 9/11? Really? Good luck with that..............

They're trying to spark a shooting incident... or a full-blown 'get the useful idiots beaten up...' to get their little outrage and revolution started. Never let a crisis go to waste. If there 'is' no crisis.... manufacture one.

Nothing the lefties would like better than a few martyrs. And where better to create them than Texas!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
They're trying to spark a shooting incident... or a full-blown 'get the useful idiots beaten up...' to get their little outrage and revolution started. Never let a crisis go to waste. If there 'is' no crisis.... manufacture one.

Nothing the lefties would like better than a few martyrs. And where better to create them than Texas!

Cheers,

Sirhr

I'm reminded not to say too much. But I'm afraid it ain't gonna bode well for'm. To bad this guy is probably gonna burn for chiming in. :mad:
 
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Article on the driver. Doesnt mention the car being a reincarnation of the general lee though.
 
FWIW, Lee is the reason the South didn't continue the war with guerrilla tactics that would have lasted for years or decades. But the commie fags are trying to erase history, not learn anything from it.

Jesse, Frank, and the Youngers might a disagreed with ya sir..

And the Dukes drove a Charger, not a Challenger FWIW. Challenger had same body as the Cuda, Chargers a big heavy SOB
 
Sihr I do appreciate your point and as always you are well thought out and written. But to say Lee was some man of virtue is just plain revisionist history. Don’t get me wrong I am sure without out slavery or war he was a fine Honorable man. But we must remember he chose to be on the wrong side of history.

You mean the history writ by yankees and carpetbaggers..?
 
Sihr I do appreciate your point and as always you are well thought out and written. But to say Lee was some man of virtue is just plain revisionist history. Don’t get me wrong I am sure without out slavery or war he was a fine Honorable man. But we must remember he chose to be on the wrong side of history.

i HATE this term......"right side of history"...."wrong side of history"........there is no fucking thing. (barring great atrocities like genocide).

you are CLEARLY a child of public school if you believe the Civil war was about slavery.....Lincoln didnt give a shit about the slaves......and it wasnt until several years into the war that he actually signed the Emancipation Proclamation.....and its well known that it was signed more as a smear tactic and to damage southern infrastructure than it was from any sense of morality.
 
Sometimes thir are consequences to stupidity. Good father here.

 
i HATE this term......"right side of history"...."wrong side of history"........there is no fucking thing. (barring great atrocities like genocide).

you are CLEARLY a child of public school if you believe the Civil war was about slavery.....Lincoln didnt give a shit about the slaves......and it wasnt until several years into the war that he actually signed the Emancipation Proclamation.....and its well known that it was signed more as a smear tactic and to damage southern infrastructure than it was from any sense of morality.

It was about preserving the Union and not allowing dis union.

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Bingo sirh, I am pretty sure if antifa shows up and gets violent they will most likely be shot by one of their victims, also pretty sure if a white supremacist attacks a victim they will be shot also. I am only a half hour motorcycle ride from College Station.
They're trying to spark a shooting incident... or a full-blown 'get the useful idiots beaten up...' to get their little outrage and revolution started. Never let a crisis go to waste. If there 'is' no crisis.... manufacture one.

Nothing the lefties would like better than a few martyrs. And where better to create them than Texas!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 
Well... as someone above said (I think it may have been you...) Communists and Nazi's beating each other up and getting ready to shoot each other? And we are stopping this??? Why???

So best leave the bike in the barn... and watch College Station come apart on CNN. I mean... it'll be TV worth watching. See Deathrace 2000 clip above.

There may be a time and place for us old pharts to saddle up again. A time to rise and say "Hoka Hey" while loading up. But so far, this is nothing but fun-to-watch. America is, in my optimistic opinion, still a great place.

On Sept 11, I'll be riding toward the Scottish Border on my GS... doing another photo montage of battlefields and great military museums of England. I've been to UK dozens of times. Lived there for a time... in Cambridge. And never set foot in the ancestral homeland of Scotland. Gonna head for John O'Groats via the homeland of Clan Ross.. A whole week riding through Scotland. Can't wait!

Cheers and stay frosty, my friend!

Sirhr
 
I'm tempted to do the Hoka Hey ride... but I like my comforts these days. A nice Motel 6... a good rack of ribs and a cheeky IPA. Those 1000 mile days and sleeping rough... Well, tempting. But so far, I'm looking forward to Scotland! I hear they have toilet paper there now!

Cheers

Sirhr
 
There is toilet paper everywhere you look, if you look hard enough. Best to eat c ration peanut butter (Canned version 1950 vintage) and you wont shit for a month. The trans america ride is 5k miles off road at a leisure pace, nothing grueling.
 
Sihr I do appreciate your point and as always you are well thought out and written. But to say Lee was some man of virtue is just plain revisionist history. Don’t get me wrong I am sure without out slavery or war he was a fine Honorable man. But we must remember he chose to be on the wrong side of history.

He did think the slaves we destined to be free. But only the hand of God would free them. His thinking, not mine.

Interesting thing this phrase "revisionist history" has become. If we read what was said by Lee, before 1865, and the fact that Lee was willing to put his money where his mouth was to free slaves we may find ourselves at odds with this quagmire of revisionism. Whether searching the archives of the fantastically leftist Harper's Magazine or the annals of our Library of Congress we find mountains of evidence that Lee was against slavery, and acted on that belief. What is startling about revisionist politics is that it necessarily must reject the historical record in favor of the incantations of deconstructionists.

Revisionism no longer has anything to do with a modification of something that came before the now, but it is a catch phrase of a political movement. Revisionist history is a phrase used to neatly bookend a political doctrine too thoughtless to require more than two words to frame itself up. It seeks, with blind rage, to strip anything it doesn't like down to a single thread that is digestible to the viewers of CNN and Common Core classrooms. It paints everything in the universe in one of two colors, good or bad, because the palette presented by the smallest Crayola box (8 colors, I think) is too overwhelming to think about.

And for the gratuitous quotes, because I fear someone won't bother to consult the Library of Congress, and perhaps instead defer to the political machine that is The Atlantic or the mouth breathing scribblings of NYT babblers...

Unfortunately qualified though this letter to his wife is...

... In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.

- Robert E. Lee, to Mary Anna Lee, December 27, 1856

He financially supported his wife's efforts to free slaves and personally finance their move to Liberia (https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african/afam004.html)

Before the Civil War, Robert E. Lee freed most of his slaves and offered to pay expenses for those who wanted to go to Liberia. In November 1853, Lee's former slaves William and Rosabella Burke and their four children sailed on the Banshee, which left Baltimore with 261 emigrants. A person of superior intelligence and drive, Burke studied Latin and Greek at a newly established seminary in Monrovia and became a Presbyterian minister in 1857. He helped educate his own children and other members of his community and took several native children into his home. The Burkes's letters describing their lives in Liberia show that they relied on the Lees to convey messages to and from relatives still in Virginia, and the letters also reflect affection for their former masters.


As for it being up to God to free the slaves or not, well Lincoln left that up to His providence. These are Lincoln's words, not the revisionists. "The Almighty has His own purposes," Lincoln said. Then, kicking things off with a riff from Matthew 18:7:

"Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope - fervently do we pray - that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether."

- Abraham Lincoln, 2nd Inaugural Address
 
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The war was 100% about slavery like I have said before the Economics of Slavery.

Sihr the problem with letting them kill each other is when they are done who do they go after then?

Say what you want about Lee, I don't really care. But he did make the wrong choice for whatever reasons.

These alt righties have as much right to speak as anyone. Even if you find them repugnant. Which I do. The left seems to forget these are same rights that let Martin Luther King stand up and speak (even though a whole bunch of folks did not want him too). They suffer from selective memory.

The real explosion is going to come when the Justice Dept. arrests The violent lefties involved in this thing. I am sure they have plenty of video. Justice is when everyone who was aggressively violent pays for their sins, so to speak. How can the Press condemn it when the Police arrest a Lefty who attacked them?

The City Gov and the Governor wanted this to happen. They allowed it and nurtured it. So did the press by building it up for several days before so they could get their riot shots. I would be surprised if someone does not sue them for it.
 
Lee did make the wrong choice... no doubt. When our standards today are applied. And while I don't like alternative history, I've often wondered whether the Civil War would have lasted more than a few weeks had Lee taken over the Union Forces when they were offered to him. I think Manassas would have had a very different outcome. And the repercussions of that could have been interesting. Unfortunately, the difference between alternative history and fantasy is... well, there is none. So I generally don't go there.

All history is in some ways revisionist. Because you can't record every moment, angle, thought, experience... so what is recorded has history is interpretation based on snippets of information and, more and more today, forensic data. But every event, especially military events with thousands of participants, is by nature just a small snapshot of the real history. And, remember, that history based on fallible (and biased) primary sources... If you read Civil War Newspapers, first-hand reporters from the Cincinatti Democrat were excoriating Grant, while the first hand reporters from the Cleveland Republican was praising him... for the same battle. Now which primary source is right?

Read Carol Reardon's "Pickett's Charge in History and Memory" which explores the various historical approaches to Pickett's Charge and how the actual event has been mythologized. And apply her brilliant analysis of how the battle has become portrayed to any event. Once one understands Reardon's precepts... one can understand that history can never be perfectly portrayed because it is, by nature, squishy.

Last, FS... you raise a good point that I was contemplating last night. The Antifa-types are clearly organizing and planning. As they are planning to commit felonies in many cases (looting, burning, beating, assaults), the argument can be made that there is a RICO case to be made. And that the DoJ should be coming down on the Violent idiots, no matter what little flag they are flying. As always... follow the money? Who is paying for the travel, living expenses, hotels, busses, etc. for these folks? Are they spending their welfare checks or trust funds? Or is there a money trail right to K-Street or a big mansion or two in Connecticut. Because if someone is paying for violence... they should be charged with a crime. And McAuliffe was up to his eyeballs in it. This is his national moment... his 2020 kickoff speech. He wants the violence to cement his own position. Wonder if he'es going to take over a bier-hall next??

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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Mc Awful is a dick. Period.


To Moses:

Excellent piece. My major/only caveat is this: While true, that the leftists are painting with 2 colors, and rightly because they have been stupidized (my word, perhaps dumbed down would be better), there are some subjects that need painted in only one color....WRONG/Morally repugnant and deserving swift and terrible repercussion. Amongst these is slavery of any sort. Child abuse is another.

There is no justification for slavery. It is not justifiable by saying:

"The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence."

FUCK THAT SHIT

My family landed in Virginia in 1640. There may be some distant relation to the Lee family.

In the strongest terms I stomp on that statement. The deepest, most primary desire of any man, or any man that deserves being called a man, is FREEDOM. Not food, not safety, not affection, but FREEDOM. Thats why so many sacrificed ALL in the many wars to protect those freedoms. Hell, I even see it in my wolves. As affectionate and sweet as they are, they would instantly trade the rest of their lives for one day of true freedom, and it often breaks me up not to be able to give them that. FREEDOM brother. I would live in a free pile of shit before bowing my knee to live in comfort.

There is a great quote from Herodotus about this but I cant find it this am. Instead Ill use this one. it was written by a brilliant Guatemalan socialist/communist fighting against the right wing dictatorships stealing his country. He was eventually captured and burned alive...Read the prophetic last lines. This is only an excerpt, I would most strongly advise reading it in its entirety, if possible in the original Spanish.



Excerpted from "For the Good of All" by Otto Rene Castillo

Only in ourselves
the light, the dawn,
or nowhere.
Beneath our night
A sun await us
greater than the universe:
the authentic freedom of man.

But freedom is like wheat.
It must be planted, softly,
and watered every day.
It must be protected
till it multiplies,
fills the mouth of the wind,
the hunger of all,
and becomes invincible.

So, I say,
our evil,
our badness,
our lack of care,
will only be wiped out
with the unity of all
for the good of all.
If we unite
We will win over the fearful
smelling his own death,
enemy, howling already,
definitive and huge.

Now do you understand
this voice?

It is not only mine,
nor yours,
but that of all.
And I know
that many hear it,
they sense it,
they see it,
and cry in hiding
because they recognize
in that voice their own,
the voice already lost
or not yet emerging.
And I know they love
and respect this voice,
because no one can deny
that beneath the voice
a man burns
sweetly
for the good of all,
even for the good of those
who have not heard it.
 
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The only thing that I agree with and see as right is why the groups (whether some of them bigots or not) were there in the first place, to protest the removal of the Lee statue. Whether you agree with it or not it's a part of our country's history, and those groups have every right to assembled to protest its removal if that's how they feel.

My understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that they had permits from the city to assemble.

These antifa mouth breathers went there to start shit and got exactly what they wanted, they were the aggressors. Nobody is allowed to have a difference of opinion from these little faggots and if you do violence is an acceptable response in their mind. They only continue to do it because they haven't been met with superior firepower as of yet. It's really only a matter of time before someone loses it and unloads on them when they decide to go full retard, it's going to happen and it's going to be very bad.

The only people involved in this cluster fuck that I have sympathy for is the VSP who lost two of their own. RIP.
 
Funny thing in my opinion is the quote "those who forget history are destined to forget it" of something close to that effect.

Tearing down war memorials won't change history or change what happened. One side won. One side lost. To me the bigger thing is that good people stood up for what they believed in, on both sides.

You would think that any group would want to try and sit down and discuss issues rather than resorting to activism and property damage rather than risk repeating the very mistakes that led to the very war the memorials they're destroying represent.

In the mean time, I have a feeling this thing is going to sprial out of control. Sides are being drawn as we speak. The last administration fueled the flames that, to me, are almost impossible to get under control without bloodshed. My opinion, make no mistake, bad things are coming.
 
Funny thing in my opinion is the quote "those who forget history are destined to forget it" of something close to that effect.

Tearing down war memorials won't change history or change what happened. One side won. One side lost. To me the bigger thing is that good people stood up for what they believed in, on both sides.

You would think that any group would want to try and sit down and discuss issues rather than resorting to activism and property damage rather than risk repeating the very mistakes that led to the very war the memorials they're destroying represent.

In the mean time, I have a feeling this thing is going to sprial out of control. Sides are being drawn as we speak. The last administration fueled the flames that, to me, are almost impossible to get under control without bloodshed. My opinion, make no mistake, bad things are coming.
[h=3]"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"[/h]
George Santayana
 
You would think that any group would want to try and sit down and discuss issues rather than resorting to activism and property damage rather than risk repeating the very mistakes that led to the very war the memorials they're destroying represent.

I agree with your entire post, but this isn't going to happen. These people are not rational in the least bit and no amount of facts or reason will change their mind on anything, ever. My sister is one of these people, absolutely zero logical sense. They're right and they have to have their way no matter how many other people are inconvenienced in any way and they will resort to violence if they don't get it as we have seen time and time again. I call it the generation of entitlement and they're too fucking stupid to see that not everyone can have there way and there has to be compromise.

The fact is that if they focused on contributing to society and getting what they want the old fashioned way by earning it then they wouldn't even have the time to notice all the little irrelevant things that they disagree with and let offend them. I can't even fathom being so emotionally weak that such things would offend me.
 
I agree with your entire post, but this isn't going to happen. These people are not rational in the least bit and no amount of facts or reason will change their mind on anything, ever. My sister is one of these people, absolutely zero logical sense. They're right and they have to have their way no matter how many other people are inconvenienced in any way and they will resort to violence if they don't get it as we have seen time and time again. I call it the generation of entitlement and they're too fucking stupid to see that not everyone can have there way and there has to be compromise.

The fact is that if they focused on contributing to society and getting what they want the old fashioned way by earning it then they wouldn't even have the time to notice all the little irrelevant things that they disagree with and let offend them. I can't even fathom being so emotionally weak that such things would offend me.

Those are the words Ive been searching for. Well said.
 
Maggot, I am with you 100%. I posted Lee's quote, unapologetically, to make the point that things are not as simple as many folks need them to be.

I am far more troubled by what I do not see than all of the videos of these two mindless hordes clashing in the streets of Charlottesville. And this is to SirHR's and FS1's posts. These things do not happen in a vacuum. If there is an invisible hand (temporary, I suspect) then that is the object of my concern. The righties have been shamed so severely and for so long that the stockpiling of careful silence is proving to be what the left should be worried about. This is management idiocy. What manager quiets his people only to know absolutely nothing about what they think or intend to do??? It does not matter how low grade of a powder they collectively represent, it seems the powder keg is larger than anticipated. Identity politics, manipulating social intercourse via shaming, the PC movement, and so on. This may turn out to be crowd control ex-post facto that will be a mother fucker to get ahead of. And I also think McAuliffe, et al, are enjoying the ride on this wave.

I hope the FBI and DOJ have a card up their sleeve, for all of them. In the mean time, the lefties will experience an ass-kicking that cannot be shamed away.

Revolution can never be forecast; it cannot be foretold; it comes of itself. Revolution is brewing and is bound to flare up.

- Vladimir Lenin, 1918
 
Maggot, I am with you 100%. I posted Lee's quote, unapologetically, to make the point that things are not as simple as many folks need them to be.

I am far more troubled by what I do not see than all of the videos of these two mindless hordes clashing in the streets of Charlottesville. And this is to SirHR's and FS1's posts. These things do not happen in a vacuum. If there is an invisible hand (temporary, I suspect) then that is the object of my concern. The righties have been shamed so severely and for so long that the stockpiling of careful silence is proving to be what the left should be worried about. This is management idiocy. What manager quiets his people only to know absolutely nothing about what they think or intend to do??? It does not matter how low grade of a powder they collectively represent, it seems the powder keg is larger than anticipated. Identity politics, manipulating social intercourse via shaming, the PC movement, and so on. This may turn out to be crowd control ex-post facto that will be a mother fucker to get ahead of. And I also think McAuliffe, et al, are enjoying the ride on this wave.

I hope the FBI and DOJ have a card up their sleeve, for all of them. In the mean time, the lefties will experience an ass-kicking that cannot be shamed away.

Revolution can never be forecast; it cannot be foretold; it comes of itself. Revolution is brewing and is bound to flare up.

- Vladimir Lenin, 1918

My only regret, and criticism, is the the police should have stepped in sooner. They did a good job of crowd control, but I thought assault, and violence were illegal. Period.
 
They have not been made to pay for the price of their lazyness, you owe me thinking, in wholesale to the point the Trumpster was elected. They and their benefactors see that slipping away with the last election, and are desperate. They will run their protected game up to the point, it's returned in spades. I have no issue with liberal, until they force me to endure/live their lifestyle an logic while stealing via legalized theft aka taxes. At that point it's time to take this country back by whatever means required. No one lives forever, but many live an die on their knees always asking for permission.
 
How I feel about the violence that happened Saturday. substitute 'Thugs of any color, race, or political persuasion who promote violence).

The Pusher by Steppenwolf.


God damn, the pusher
God damn, I say the pusher
I said God damn, God damn the pusher man
Well, now if I were president of this land
You know, I'd declare total war on the pusher man
I'd cut if he stands,
And I'd shoot him if he'd run
Yes, I'd kill him with my Bible
And my razor and my gun


God damn, the pusher
God damn, the pusher
I said God damn, God damn the pusher man
 
I came across some internet wisdom yesterday that suggested a percentage of both sides was provided by a company called Crowds On Demand. https://crowdsondemand.com/

There were also craigslist ads for actors that were getting paid ~25/hour.

I figure there's a pretty good chance that the entire thing was bullshit from the very beginning, just some very wealthy folks looking to further an agenda. Apparently real Americans are moving too slowly for their taste, so they go out and hire folks to pretend to be pissed off on the television.
 
How I feel about the violence that happened Saturday. substitute 'Thugs of any color, race, or political persuasion who promote violence).

The Pusher by Steppenwolf.


God damn, the pusher
God damn, I say the pusher
I said God damn, God damn the pusher man
Well, now if I were president of this land
You know, I'd declare total war on the pusher man
I'd cut if he stands,
And I'd shoot him if he'd run
Yes, I'd kill him with my Bible
And my razor and my gun


God damn, the pusher
God damn, the pusher
I said God damn, God damn the pusher man

The pusher is creating a generation of Snowblind Friends.
 
I can't recall the name... but Steppenwolf had another great song about America.... Damn if I can remember it right now.

And I ain't searching on a phone. It seemed very appropriate. One line I remember "America needs a father, not an older brother" or somesuch.

Snowblind friend is one of my favorite songs, Eddie! Such an amazing tune. Steppenwolf gets nothing but "Born to be Wild" played. But that band had more amazing things to say than just about anyone of the time period.

I hate typing on phones.

Cheers,

Sriracha
 
Yep I said that already. The establishment is cooking up something bad and it aint mob fighting protests. Buy more powder, buy more ammo, buy more guns.

Trump is making them see blood today, he blamed the actual perpetrators, all of them, the left is losing their minds. This shit is funny. Maybe he should invite this alt right shithead to the white house like Obama did with BLM, the Muslim Bro hood, and many many other murderous criminals.
 
I can't recall the name... but Steppenwolf had another great song about America.... Damn if I can remember it right now.

And I ain't searching on a phone. It seemed very appropriate. One line I remember "America needs a father, not an older brother" or somesuch.

Snowblind friend is one of my favorite songs, Eddie! Such an amazing tune. Steppenwolf gets nothing but "Born to be Wild" played. But that band had more amazing things to say than just about anyone of the time period.

I hate typing on phones.

Cheers,

Sriracha

The song you are looking for is called MONSTER, By Steppenwolf. Appropriate as it ever was.
 
Can anyone verify this story:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ccupy-activist-obama-supporter-jason-kessler/

I am wondering if this hasn't been a false flag op.

R

I would not be surprised if th8s were true . We , the American People play by rules with Dignity and Honor . The anti American Left just looks for new ground to Slither on .
If it is proven to be the case , every man woman and child needs to know this .
Everyone needs to see and hear the evil that is the Democraric Party .
 
Damn right it is.... Thanks for the reminder!

To really appreciate the album look at the cover. Beautiful art work, Remember what USMC General Smedley Butler said.
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There is something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear. There's a Lib with a bat over there, telling me I got to beware.
 
When society divides it never divides on the lines that rational, intelligent individuals would like or appreciate. That's why intelligent and rational individuals should be raising their voices before that happens and never allow sheep and zombies dictate policy or anything meaningful in society. But that time has passed and unfortunately sides will have to be picked regardless of personal taste for it. You think our parents (or anyone before them) had black and white lines in the sand and clear cut choice? I've been telling you for a while what you now have we've had it but i guess one has to learn on his own hide to appreciate it. Unfortunately most of the people who know or even care are the ones who find themselves in the grey, morons find their colour easily...
 
Can anyone verify this story:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ccupy-activist-obama-supporter-jason-kessler/

I am wondering if this hasn't been a false flag op.

R

One of them being an ex-Occupy left-wing nutjob might be a coincidence... but here's a second one. This guy just got fired from his job at Pizzaria Uno for being a supposed Nazi. But everyone up here says he'es been a complete leftist for his whole life... Occupy type, etc. Had a 'sudden conversion' I guess.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...h-charlottesville-makes-no-apology/571214001/

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...over-joining-charlottesville-rally/570201001/

Methinks that maybe there IS more to these 'Illinois Nazis" than is meeting the eye. One leftard showing up, well, ok. But when another with exactly the same story shows up?

Oh and the "Free Press" makes the San Francisco Chronicle look like the Dearborn Independent (look it up.). It is not an alt.right publication. It's further left than a Turnip Festival (look it up!)

Wonder if Soros and the Democrats decided to adopt Putin's concept of Little Green Men? And if that means they are colluding with Russia?

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
In a room where people unanimously maintain a conspiracy of silence, One word of Truth sounds like a pistol shot.
Czestaw Milosz