Cheap is good, good is cheap.
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Re: Cheap is good, good is cheap.
Path of least resistance.
Almost any rifle can be 1/2 MOA. All of the parts and knowledge for 700s is old school, tried and true, easy to duplicate, simple.
IF a Smith has good tooling and good skills, it can be done.
Also, the HUGE supply of aftermarket parts drives a lot of people to 800s
Just my 2 cents.
BMT
Path of least resistance.
Almost any rifle can be 1/2 MOA. All of the parts and knowledge for 700s is old school, tried and true, easy to duplicate, simple.
IF a Smith has good tooling and good skills, it can be done.
Also, the HUGE supply of aftermarket parts drives a lot of people to 800s
Just my 2 cents.
BMT
Re: Cheap is good, good is cheap.
This is something I ask myself a lot when reading pages on this forum. Why do guys spend 3-6 thousand dollars on a gun when I can buy a Remington 700 or a Savage 10 that will shoot sub .5 moa. Can anyone shed some light on this?
This is something I ask myself a lot when reading pages on this forum. Why do guys spend 3-6 thousand dollars on a gun when I can buy a Remington 700 or a Savage 10 that will shoot sub .5 moa. Can anyone shed some light on this?
Re: Cheap is good, good is cheap.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Savage 10fp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is something I ask myself a lot when reading pages on this forum. Why do guys spend 3-6 thousand dollars on a gun when I can buy a Remington 700 or a Savage 10 that will shoot sub .5 moa. Can anyone shed some light on this? </div></div>
While I'm sure some guys buy $5K sticks just because they can (and more power to 'em), sometimes .5 MOA isn't enough- if you're in serious competition shooting. The quality and tolerances of everything from the barrels, to the actions, are much more precise. At some point the differences, I believe, are too inconsequential to be of significance to <span style="font-style: italic">most</span>shooters- but like I said, there are those that can appreciate, and utilize, the precision these high-end rifles afford.
While everyone knows that a top notch triggerman with a "cheaper" but capable rifle can outshoot a tool with an $8,000 rifle all day, everyday, the combination of a perfect rifle, and expert shooter is as good as it gets.
Someday, I hope to be a good enough shooter for it to make sense for me to invest that much in a rifle...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Savage 10fp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is something I ask myself a lot when reading pages on this forum. Why do guys spend 3-6 thousand dollars on a gun when I can buy a Remington 700 or a Savage 10 that will shoot sub .5 moa. Can anyone shed some light on this? </div></div>
While I'm sure some guys buy $5K sticks just because they can (and more power to 'em), sometimes .5 MOA isn't enough- if you're in serious competition shooting. The quality and tolerances of everything from the barrels, to the actions, are much more precise. At some point the differences, I believe, are too inconsequential to be of significance to <span style="font-style: italic">most</span>shooters- but like I said, there are those that can appreciate, and utilize, the precision these high-end rifles afford.
While everyone knows that a top notch triggerman with a "cheaper" but capable rifle can outshoot a tool with an $8,000 rifle all day, everyday, the combination of a perfect rifle, and expert shooter is as good as it gets.
Someday, I hope to be a good enough shooter for it to make sense for me to invest that much in a rifle...
Re: Cheap is good, good is cheap.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wannashootit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Savage 10fp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is something I ask myself a lot when reading pages on this forum. Why do guys spend 3-6 thousand dollars on a gun when I can buy a Remington 700 or a Savage 10 that will shoot sub .5 moa. Can anyone shed some light on this? </div></div>
While I'm sure some guys buy $5K sticks just because they can (and more power to 'em), sometimes .5 MOA isn't enough- if you're in serious competition shooting. The quality and tolerances of everything from the barrels, to the actions, are much more precise. At some point the differences, I believe, are too inconsequential to be of significance to <span style="font-style: italic">most</span>shooters- but like I said, there are those that can appreciate, and utilize, the precision these high-end rifles afford.
While everyone knows that a top notch triggerman with a "cheaper" but capable rifle can outshoot a tool with an $8,000 rifle all day, everyday, the combination of a perfect rifle, and expert shooter is as good as it gets.
Someday, I hope to be a good enough shooter for it to make sense for me to invest that much in a rifle...
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Good point wannashootit. I think for some on here its knowing you got the best that you can afford and knowing when something goes wrong its you and not the rifle. I think there is a lot of people on here who just look at it like a tool and extension of themselves and get what works for them. Kinda like a car you can buy a $10000 Honda that gets you from point A to point B or spend a lot more and get there in better style and more power. Its choices people make and what does or does not work for them when it comes down to it.
I started years ago with a stock 700 VSF with a Mark 4. My latest is a UGSW built Badger M2008 with a SN-3 that better fits me and has what I wanted in a rifle. Am I able to get everything out of the rifle that it is capable of. No I'm not but I like knowing when I miss or groups open up its me and not the rifle. It keeps me honest this way instead of blaming the rifle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wannashootit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Savage 10fp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is something I ask myself a lot when reading pages on this forum. Why do guys spend 3-6 thousand dollars on a gun when I can buy a Remington 700 or a Savage 10 that will shoot sub .5 moa. Can anyone shed some light on this? </div></div>
While I'm sure some guys buy $5K sticks just because they can (and more power to 'em), sometimes .5 MOA isn't enough- if you're in serious competition shooting. The quality and tolerances of everything from the barrels, to the actions, are much more precise. At some point the differences, I believe, are too inconsequential to be of significance to <span style="font-style: italic">most</span>shooters- but like I said, there are those that can appreciate, and utilize, the precision these high-end rifles afford.
While everyone knows that a top notch triggerman with a "cheaper" but capable rifle can outshoot a tool with an $8,000 rifle all day, everyday, the combination of a perfect rifle, and expert shooter is as good as it gets.
Someday, I hope to be a good enough shooter for it to make sense for me to invest that much in a rifle...
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Good point wannashootit. I think for some on here its knowing you got the best that you can afford and knowing when something goes wrong its you and not the rifle. I think there is a lot of people on here who just look at it like a tool and extension of themselves and get what works for them. Kinda like a car you can buy a $10000 Honda that gets you from point A to point B or spend a lot more and get there in better style and more power. Its choices people make and what does or does not work for them when it comes down to it.
I started years ago with a stock 700 VSF with a Mark 4. My latest is a UGSW built Badger M2008 with a SN-3 that better fits me and has what I wanted in a rifle. Am I able to get everything out of the rifle that it is capable of. No I'm not but I like knowing when I miss or groups open up its me and not the rifle. It keeps me honest this way instead of blaming the rifle.
Re: Cheap is good, good is cheap.
The 700 is like the Small Block Chevy. It's EVERYWHERE, and EVERYONE knows how to work on it, its abundant, it's "cheap", and it flat out works...
The 700 is like the Small Block Chevy. It's EVERYWHERE, and EVERYONE knows how to work on it, its abundant, it's "cheap", and it flat out works...
