CHINA WAR INEVITABLE...SOONER THAN LATER

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Intellectuals, those with military & economic understanding and practical objective thinkers will watch this ENTIRE video and recognize war with China is imminent.




China is eliminating civilian leaders, operates bio weapons labs here in California and established it’s own Police nationwide here in America and murdered 100 million of its own people. The longer you watch…the closer your jaw drops to the floor. This is too real for TDS-afflicted Democrats who will dismiss it because their tiny brains cannot cope. But for the rest of us…well, common sense will force you to accept the probability of a violent conflict with unstable China…like Nostrodomas predicted. Taiwan is not their target. We are. What we do next will determine our future. I pray Trump gets this one right. Previous administrations pooched it horribly.
 
First off remember EVERYTHING you see comes from someone with an agenda.
Even if that agenda is simply to get clicks, views and revenue from scaring folks with "must watch" warnings.
Talking heads on YouTube all want money, or fame, or recognition or a bigger audience.

Anyone itching to start a full-on war with China is probably one of the insane warmongering NeoCons in the grasp of the MIC.
Just the same as anyone all getting a big chubby about starting a full-on war with Russia.

Could we win, Yes. Would we win, Most likely.

But it will destroy our way of life, our economy, it will drive the country and most of the working types into bankruptcy & pretty much ensure that our society comes to an end as the irreplicable youth are wasted for vain power and glory and are replaced with "virtuous immigrants".

10 years after we "win" such a war, this country will look like a combination of Mexico and Syria.

But of course most of the "good folks" will jingoistically cheer for it and throw their youth into the fire because they are all amped up on propaganda and then will wonder why later on they are growing old in a place that looks like Mexico with roving gangs beating on them regularly.

We are pushing China towards war, just as we are pushing Russia towards war.
Neither want it, but both understand that there may come a time when the USA essentially gives them only 2 options, fight or be crushed.
Both will choose to go down fighting and take us down with them.

Anyone that thinks that a full scale real war with either China or Russia won't eventually wind up with bunches of nukes flying in both directions, is seriously mistaken. We would of course go full Duke Nukem before we would be invaded or collapse and so will they.

Proxy wars and cold wars are much more profitable and keep the money train flowing.
Remember the Global Elite Bankers are always on BOTH sides of a conflict.
 
First off remember EVERYTHING you see comes from someone with an agenda.
Even if that agenda is simply to get clicks, views and revenue from scaring folks with "must watch" warnings.
Talking heads on YouTube all want money, or fame, or recognition or a bigger audience.

Anyone itching to start a full-on war with China is probably one of the insane warmongering NeoCons in the grasp of the MIC.
Just the same as anyone all getting a big chubby about starting a full-on war with Russia.

Could we win, Yes. Would we win, Most likely.

But it will destroy our way of life, our economy, it will drive the country and most of the working types into bankruptcy & pretty much ensure that our society comes to an end as the irreplicable youth are wasted for vain power and glory and are replaced with "virtuous immigrants".

10 years after we "win" such a war, this country will look like a combination of Mexico and Syria.

But of course most of the "good folks" will jingoistically cheer for it and throw their youth into the fire because they are all amped up on propaganda and then will wonder why later on they are growing old in a place that looks like Mexico with roving gangs beating on them regularly.

We are pushing China towards war, just as we are pushing Russia towards war.
Neither want it, but both understand that there may come a time when the USA essentially gives them only 2 options, fight or be crushed.
Both will choose to go down fighting and take us down with them.

Anyone that thinks that a full scale real war with either China or Russia won't eventually wind up with bunches of nukes flying in both directions, is seriously mistaken. We would of course go full Duke Nukem before we would be invaded or collapse and so will they.

Proxy wars and cold wars are much more profitable and keep the money train flowing.
Remember the Global Elite Bankers are always on BOTH sides of a conflict.
The term they use for launching nukes actually being “use them or lose them” doesn’t bode well for us
 
Nah, I don't think there's going to be a spicy conflict between China and the US. Both China and the US have gotten fat off each other about 3% of both countries GDP is from doing business together. 3% doesn't sound like much, but the US has a GDP of just over $29T a year. Neither side wants the financial diet.

China will be a headline creating nation for a while still. Gonna get spicy when Xi passes away though. It'll be interesting to see how the power vacuum gets filled given that Xi has purged a lot of people that could challege him.

Trump needs to negotiate a trade deal that gets china to slow their roll on Taiwan, and gets both China, and the US, what it needs in economic benefits, as well as political wins for both members to take home to their constituents (or subjects in the case of China), long enough to get closer to a retired, or deceased, president Xi. Then we deal with the next guy, and hope he's reasonable.
 
You keep forgetting, we need our Jingo Juice Stimulants to keep up this mindless fervor of McCarthyist quasipatriotic excitement! 🤣

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“Please buy and read my book, the same one I’ve been peddling on Fox News since 2001.”

“I’m of Chinese descent and thusly an expert, so this automatically validates my claims and guarantees the authenticity of its content.”


Crossposted from your earlier Chynuuuh thread.

Intellectuals, those with military & economic understanding and practical objective thinkers will watch this ENTIRE video…

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Sorry, that’s just grossly uneducated dumbphuckery.

Even those with a serious axe to grind against the CPC hardly consider this fool a credible source of anything.

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This guy’s low - hanging fruit for the Fox News types, a “weaponized minority” who makes his living by sucking up to the jingoists, by condemning people of his own ethnicity.



Kinda like the way this guy ingratiates himself by procaiming to be a “Pro - Trump, Legal Immigrant.”



Really gotta try better than that - that kinda grift's really low.

Reality is, China can land some major economic hurt on us right now and still come ahead - but why haven't they?

Bad for business.


Hard to believe there are still people who still don't get it.
 
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If you want something that'll do the equivalent of Viagra, read articles such as these instead, and ask the question...

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...why?

Y u no ask y murica wanna war?

Y murica hate Chynuuuh?
 
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Laughing, we made China into what it is today via laziness and greed.

Why do people & country's create their own enemy's & assassins than bitch about them? Country's do it for the money, people do it because they are that short sighted.

And yet - we have the moral high ground and perpetually clean, guilt - free hands because we are America; we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future,
 
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"10 years after we "win" such a war, this country will look like a combination of Mexico and Syria ."
Have you seen the cities . Hell in Pa ; the Poconos , Doylestown , Reading and any Philly suburb that is quasi urban is flooded with illegals . Have you seen Detroit .
" Derka Derka . Mohammed Jihad"..
 
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China has never been a warring power in it's entire history. They are a mercantile nation, a mercantile people. They want to control manufacturing on the global level and for the most part they already do.
Wars cost money, manufacturing makes money, money is power. Which country pretty much does the majority of manufacturing? A real war between China and the USA would be a disaster for all, and that includes pretty much every country and person on this planet. Only the delusional neocons or those that think they would profit from a war want it.
 
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Quick! all ya'll purveyors of chinese scopes, red dots, accessories, and american flag 2A t-shirts stock up! yeh brother (said in my best randy savage growl)

EDIT - forgot to add the sellers of fine chinese cutlery.
 
Wars cost money, manufacturing makes money, money is power. Which country pretty much does the majority of manufacturing? A real war between China and the USA would be a disaster for all, and that includes pretty much every country and person on this planet. Only the delusional neocons or those that think they would profit from a war want it.
Meh. The CEO's of RTX, Lockheed, Northrop etc. scoff at you, lowly peasant, Just be quite and prepare your children and grandchildren for sacrfice.
 
Back to the Original Topic of China, they have no reason to go to a hot war as they are already kicking our asses with the indirect Cold War - Propaganda, Insider Corruption, Spying, IP theft, hacking, fentanyl, etc, etc.......

China is stepping up their belligerence in the South China Sea, particularly with Taiwan and the Phillipines. Surely their eye is on the prize in their own neighborhood.
 
Chynah needs us. We need them. Too late to put that Genie back in the bottle. The only possible way any form of war erupts between us is if Chynah/Xi become so destabilized and Xi so desperate to maintain his grip on power that he instigates a moderate conflagration to maintain his clutch on power. Could certainly happen, but MAD and absolute economic ruin of Chynah are virtually insurmountable barriers to a legit, all-out “Hot War” with them slopes.
 
Intellectuals, those with military & economic understanding and practical objective thinkers will watch this ENTIRE video and recognize war with China is imminent.




China is eliminating civilian leaders, operates bio weapons labs here in California and established it’s own Police nationwide here in America and murdered 100 million of its own people. The longer you watch…the closer your jaw drops to the floor. This is too real for TDS-afflicted Democrats who will dismiss it because their tiny brains cannot cope. But for the rest of us…well, common sense will force you to accept the probability of a violent conflict with unstable China…like Nostrodomas predicted. Taiwan is not their target. We are. What we do next will determine our future. I pray Trump gets this one right. Previous administrations pooched it horribly.

I knew it was a while back... about time Xi or whatever made himself basically emperor. Why the hell we fuel the economy of an enemy nation is beyond me... trade with allies only!
 
Chynah needs us. We need them. Too late to put that Genie back in the bottle. The only possible way any form of war erupts between us is if Chynah/Xi become so destabilized and Xi so desperate to maintain his grip on power that he instigates a moderate conflagration to maintain his clutch on power. Could certainly happen, but MAD and absolute economic ruin of Chynah are virtually insurmountable barriers to a legit, all-out “Hot War” with them slopes.
We don't need them near as much as they need our money. S. Korea is pretty friendly..
 
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I knew it was a while back... about time Xi or whatever made himself basically emperor.

Not really.

Quote below…

President is elected by the Congress, which is a different position from the General Secretary which elected by the Central Committee. Sometimes these positions are shared by the same people, and sometimes they aren’t.

The Communist Party is based in the Leninist principle of “democratic centralism”. This means “debate within the party, unity in action”. It is meant to make the party more powerful by allowing dissent and debates within the party, but when it comes to taking action, all members are expected to follow the consensus even if they disagreed with it.

Since China’s Congress is primarily members of the Communist Party, this means that the decision of the president ultimately originates in the Communist Party itself. After they reach a consensus, the whole party will vote for that consensus in the Congress. While there technically are smaller parties in China’s Congress, they act more as advisors, since it is not practically possible for them to overturn the vote, since the CPC always votes in unity.

Formally, China’s president is elected by the Congress. But the decision of who to elect largely comes back to the CPC itself before they come to a consensus. So the final decision largely originates in the Politburo and the Central Committee.

The president in China is harder to shift on a dime than like in the US. The president is not elected by a nation-wide vote but by the Congress itself. To change who the Congress elects, you have to change the opinions of the largest party in that Congress, you have to change the opinions of the CPC.

To change the opinions of the CPC, you will need to change the make up of the Central Committee and the Politburo. To change their make up, you have to change the make up of the people below them. And to change the make up of the people below them, you have to change the make up of the people below them. So on and so forth.

It all comes back down to the very local and grassroots level. As an individual, you only have voting power to change the grassroots make up of your local area. You can nominate and vote in someone different at the base, but you can’t vote directly on the president.

This means for the president to change, there needs to be an overall shift in public opinion in the majority of the entire country, which would change the make up of the majority of the people at the bottom, which would then change the make up of the majority of people above those people, which would then change the make up of the majority of people above those people, so on and so forth, until it changes the Politburo and Central Committee.

At that point, the positions of the CPC would be changed and you could get a different president elected. Of course, that would take a long time. So changing the president is not something that can happen quickly.

China’s system really thrives off of stability, centrality, and consensus. It is meant to both democratically take into account general public opinion, but also to centralize those opinions into a particular decision and consensus. The entire political system is structured to encourage a greater and stronger consensus to form the more you “move up” the electoral system.

By the time you get to the Congress electing the president, the consensus is already largely formed. The Congress more-so acts as a way to formalize that consensus, but to also give some input from outsiders, such as the CPPCC acts as an advisory body to the Congress and has many representatives who are not members of the CPC. Advisory bodies still play an important role even if they don’t directly get to decide things.

Elections are anonymous so there are still sometimes people who vote against it, but this is mostly for symbolic reasons, since by the time the vote comes in front of Congress, the decision has largely already been made in the CPC, and this is just the way it is formalized.

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…included for educational purposes.

People vote for Small Fish, Small Fish vote for the Big Fish, Big Fish vote for the Bigger Fish, Bigger Fish vote for the Biggest Fish.

The system has the benefit of weeding out leaders incapable of serving in the "Big Leagues" from moving up in office.

ON THE SIDE:

Question: Why can't we emulate Chynuuuh's Five - Year Plans and reboot our economy? Speculation: Their uniparty controls the private sector, and sets the tone of how the country is to run, what directives are to be pursued. Our uniparty is controlled by the private sector and their "selfish interests," and the results speak for themselves.

The accomplishment "Emperor" Xi is best known for is quite literally - killing off (executing) governmental bureaucratic corruption. Unprecedented, accelerated reforms.

The CPC took Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew's recommendations quite seriously, and implemented sweeping reforms during Xi's tenure.

Why the hell we fuel the economy of an enemy nation is beyond me... trade with allies only!

Already mentioned in previous posts above.

We were lazy and greedy.

I dare say we’re a slaver culture.

Always looking for cheap, sweatshop labor to exploit.

We don't need them near as much as they need our money. S. Korea is pretty friendly..

They bailed us out during the 2008 Financial Crisis to the tune of $800 billion when we needed money the most.

Right now, they’re divesting themselves of U.S. Treasury Bonds.

“De - risking” themselves away from America sucks for their profits big time (by far, we are their most egregious consumer of goods), but we’ll be much, much worse off.

They have the BRICS countries to trade with, who contrary to popular jingoist belief - aren’t out there to trash America - the BRICS countries are just sick of dealing with us, with the minimal benefits that we trickle down to them, and want to be left alone.

Take Peru's Port of Chancay as an example. While China does a joint venture with them involving a Megaport, we sell them Caltrain Diesel junker trains instead.

What have we done for South America? Our immediate neighbors - we kept them down in the dirt over the last couple centuries. What does China offer them in the last decade? Megaports. Railways. Better opportunities in trade.

Using that as one, very limited example amongst a great many - can we Americans understand how BRICS (the rest of the non - Western world, really) sees us?
 
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Chynah needs us. We need them. Too late to put that Genie back in the bottle. The only possible way any form of war erupts between us is if Chynah/Xi become so destabilized and Xi so desperate to maintain his grip on power that he instigates a moderate conflagration to maintain his clutch on power. Could certainly happen, but MAD and absolute economic ruin of Chynah are virtually insurmountable barriers to a legit, all-out “Hot War” with them slopes.

This is consistent with Hegseth's line of thinking, which is representative of "Neoconservatives" (henceforth referred to as "assholes") in general.

Instead of "how can we unf*ck ourselves, resume sane trade relations, and become a good global citizen," assholes fantasize more of these Brzezinkiesque Balkanization and regime change fantasies (which, incidentally, have led us into our current sorry state of affairs).
 
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Not really.

Quote below…



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…included for educational purposes.

People vote for Small Fish, Small Fish vote for the Big Fish, Big Fish vote for the Bigger Fish, Bigger Fish vote for the Biggest Fish.

The system has the benefit of weeding out leaders incapable of serving in the "Big Leagues" from moving up in office.

ON THE SIDE:

Question: Why can't we emulate Chynuuuh's Five - Year Plans and reboot our economy? Speculation: Their uniparty controls the private sector, and sets the tone of how the country is to run, what directives are to be pursued. Our uniparty is controlled by the private sector and their "selfish interests," and the results speak for themselves.

The accomplishment "Emperor" Xi is best known for is quite literally - killing off (executing) governmental bureaucratic corruption. Unprecedented, accelerated reforms.

The CPC took Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew's recommendations quite seriously, and implemented sweeping reforms during Xi's tenure.



Already mentioned in previous posts above.

We were lazy and greedy.

I dare say we’re a slaver culture.

Always looking for cheap, sweatshop labor to exploit.



They bailed us out during the 2008 Financial Crisis to the tune of $800 billion when we needed money the most.

Right now, they’re divesting themselves of U.S. Treasury Bonds.

“De - risking” themselves away from America sucks for their profits big time (by far, we are their most egregious consumer of goods), but we’ll be much, much worse off.

They have the BRICS countries to trade with, who contrary to popular jingoist belief - aren’t out there to trash America - the BRICS countries are just sick of dealing with us, with the minimal benefits that we trickle down to them, and want to be left alone.

Take Peru's Port of Chancay as an example. While China does a joint venture with them involving a Megaport, we sell them Caltrain Diesel junker trains instead.

What have we done for South America? Our immediate neighbors - we kept them down in the dirt over the last couple centuries. What does China offer them in the last decade? Megaports. Railways. Better opportunities in trade.

Using that as one, very limited example amongst a great many - can we Americans understand how BRICS (the rest of the non - Western world, really) sees us?
That's fine, I still say trade with allied nations only. I understand why we tried getting them to basically copy us, but they didn't exactly do that.. it's more like they picked the aspects they liked and drove on. And yes America definitely loved that cheap sweat shop labor, shameful if you ask me, and very short sighted.

One thing I will give China, they seem to think more long game than the West, one might say generational even... Luckily they have shot themselves in the foot on more than one issue... like the desertification of their lands among many other things.
 
One thing I will give China, they seem to think more long game than the West, one might say generational even...

No need to speculate, their economic development plans are entirely accessible, public domain documents. There’s no mystery there.

Luckily they have shot themselves in the foot on more than one issue... like the desertification of their lands among many other things.

Best I can tell, their technology to mitigate desertification on a large scale (done in conjunction with Israel at one point), is the model everyone follows nowadays.

That massive dam on the Yellow River addressed a lot of the water deficiencies in remote areas, as well as the seasonal flooding on its banks.
 
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Intellectuals, those with military & economic understanding and practical objective thinkers will watch this ENTIRE video and recognize war with China is imminent.




China is eliminating civilian leaders, operates bio weapons labs here in California and established it’s own Police nationwide here in America and murdered 100 million of its own people. The longer you watch…the closer your jaw drops to the floor. This is too real for TDS-afflicted Democrats who will dismiss it because their tiny brains cannot cope. But for the rest of us…well, common sense will force you to accept the probability of a violent conflict with unstable China…like Nostrodomas predicted. Taiwan is not their target. We are. What we do next will determine our future. I pray Trump gets this one right. Previous administrations pooched it horribly.

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That's fine, I still say trade with allied nations only.

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How do we accomplish that?

That big block in gold right there (excluding Canada) sources a good deal of their stuff (sans agricultural) from China, before exporting goods to America.

Just like how India buys oil from Russia and sells the refined product to the EU.

That’s almost like limiting your purchases solely to Dollar General.
 
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Chynah needs us. We need them. Too late to put that Genie back in the bottle.
This is the way it is for now. The only danger that exists is if China believes that if they can't have the high tech they need from Taiwan, then nobody can. So, every now and then, we throw them a bone to keep them in the race. Where do you think they got that recent boatload of Invidia chips? We secretly allowed the Japanese to sell them to the Chinese, even though we have a high-tech embargo against them. So, we looked the other way while Japan threw them a bone to keep them happy.
 
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No need to speculate, their economic development plans are entirely accessible, public domain documents. There’s no mystery there.



Best I can tell, their technology to mitigate desertification on a large scale (done in conjunction with Israel at one point), is the model everyone follows nowadays.

That massive dam on the Yellow River addressed a lot of the water deficiencies in remote areas, as well as the seasonal flooding on its banks.
You're.... annoying. :cautious:

If your information is correct, then good... still annoying LOL.
 
This is the way it is for now. The only danger that exists is if China believes that if they can't have the high tech they need from Taiwan, then nobody can. So, every now and then, we throw them a bone to keep them in the race. Where do you think they got that recent boatload of Invidia chips? We secretly allowed the Japanese to sell them to the Chinese, even though we have a high-tech embargo against them. So, we looked the other way while Japan threw them a bone to keep them happy.

What most commentators do not make comparisons on is that between Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Hong Kong hasn’t been as glitzy or glamorous as it used to be, mainly because cities such as Shenzhen / Guangzhou / Shanghai have left it in the dust.

Hong Kong was, and continues to be, made irrelevant by rapid progress and development of the neighboring cities.







The first video is from 2012, and is the most fun to watch. The contrast in Jeremy Clarkson’s tone between the first and second videos is noticeable.

Technology isn’t magic.

Any group which has the talent, will, and money can plow ahead if they wanted to.

Along those lines and with present rates of development, Taiwan will have to innovate significantly faster to avoid being rendered irrelevant.

If you’d like it stated in simplistic terms, Taiwan is in the sixth grade while China’s in the fourth grade. There’s absolutely no question that China will eventually catch up with, and surpass Taiwan.

The question we should ask ourselves is, what plan of self - improvement should we undertake to match them and remain competitive.


Unfortunately, we still think it’s cute to posture like some drunk egging for a bar fight instead.

Go figure.
 
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The question we should ask ourselves is, what plan of self - improvement should we undertake to match them and remain competitive.

Unfortunately, we still think it’s cute to posture like some drunk egging for a bar fight instead.
This. Personally I think outsourcing to the point we lost capability was a HUGE blunder we're going to be paying for, for some time, but it MUST be corrected if we're to remain competitive in the future.

That said, there's aspects of everyday life I already despise the incorporation of the type of technology that's been somewhat forced upon us. And in the near future, certain biotech that's being researched right now honestly is terrifying... Especially if you look into what some scientists are saying HELL NO DO NOT DO THAT, and others are like 🤷‍♂️ eh but the opportunities to learn. (mirrored life)

Not to mention any of the other crazy things around the corner....okay off topic I guess, sort of... I say keep advancing military tech sure, and healthcare... but responsibly, not just oh sci-fi inspired...