Gunsmithing Choate stock flexing?

[jasonZ]

Ok after a search, have found nothing! Anybody every had a Choate stock flex? Mine is flexing, right at the foregrip area. I can push up on my barrel and it will flex, generating around 3/8" of barrel movement. My question is, if you have how did/would you fix it. I'm thinking put glass in the stock, around the molded supports inside. Don't know if this is right, but gotta do something!
Thanks Jason

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

someone just inlaid some steel or aluminum in the forestock with some epoxy. i think it was just 2 or 3 days ago and he posted pictures. the thread had $17 in the title, i think thats how much it cost the guy.

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ub...Main=157233&Words=$17&Search=true#Post1731436

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

If you have 3/8" of clearance, and have to use manual pressure to close the gap, I'm seriously doubting this is truly a problem. Unless someone is bearing down really heavy on a rest or bipod, which isn't a good idea anyway, contact is unlikely during normal usage. Some flex is probably normal. I'd be more concerned about keeping foreign material out of the gap.

Greg

 

[Rafael]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

I had a Choate Varmint many years ago.
The stock had zero flex in the fore-arm, but the fact that the aluminum frame stopped at the rear of the action made for flex between the grip and the rear-bedding area.

The simple act of squeezing the trigger would walk my cross-hairs down the target.

This problem went away as soon as I moved on to the Bell & Carlson Medalist; which maintains the aluminum frame all the way into the grip.

 

[jasonZ]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

ok, thanks guys.
Greg, the problem is if i stabilize the stock, i can manually move the barrel at a guess of about 3/8" and i don't like it! I did not have this problem with my factory stock. You can see the stock flex about 1" from the front of the forearm grip!

Axe, I'll do a search for that thread and check it out. I'm seriously thinking about just selling this thing and going to a different stock. I really like the a5, problem is I don't like the price. However, since i spent a couple hundred on this stock, i guess that just woulda been the smart route!

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

Yes, I understand your displeasure.

My only point is that, aside from aesthetics, it may be having no effect on accuracy.

Were that the case with my gun, I'd accept it and concentrate on those issues that that I have conclusively determined have a demonstrated effect on accuracy.

Even so, I can't fault your determination. Best wishes in your pursuit.

Greg

 

[monteboy84]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacticalJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Axe, I'll do a search for that thread and check it out. I'm seriously thinking about just selling this thing and going to a different stock. I really like the a5, problem is I don't like the price. However, since i spent a couple hundred on this stock, i guess that just woulda been the smart route! </div></div>

The Bell & Carlson Light Tactical stock is by far the best "bang-for-your-buck" stock I've found, and isn't that much more spendy than your Choate. They've got a pretty rigid forend and are really comfortable to shoot with. I think they look better too

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?pr...tm_campaign=649

-matt

 

[G and R]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

Choate, there is your problem...

 

[monteboy84]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glock_and_roll</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Choate, there is your problem... </div></div>

Heh, I was trying to avoid saying that outright, but if you're saying it, I'll agree

-matt

 

[jasonZ]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

well, there u have it!

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

naw, there are plenty of guys using the choate with no issues. not saying thats not the case, just there are plenty of people using them with no issues

but if i am reading you correctly, it may need pillar or fully bedded

 

[jasonZ]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

I'm gonna photoshop some pics and post to show you guys exactly what i'm talking about. I think i'm gonna glass in the interior areas of the stock in that area, maybe adding some metal to it. I mean the dam thing weighs 6+lbs right out the box, so alittle more won't hurt it!

 

[jasonZ]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

Ok, forgive my crudeness, I'm not an artist and not very fimiliar with paint on my pictures, but this will maybe help with what I am talking about.

Now, I was talking with a friend and we discussed, whether this would make any difference in accuracy. We also discussed whether it would make a difference if it was being shot from the bipod, which is the anchor point in front of the stress point and whether it would be best to shoot from a bag with this stock as it is.

So if you set the gun up on the bipod, put your hand on the front of the stock, the lower arrow, then put your other hand on the barrel, the upper arrow. You hold the front of the stock down and push up on the barrel. You can see the stock flew in the area I have circled! There is substantial movement in the barrel!

I am concerned and maybe I should not be. Yes I know this is a cheap stock, but I don't see why this problem exists. I am contemplating filling in the recessed areas inside the stock in the circled area to see if this helps, but I don't want to waste my time and money. If the general consensus is to replace then I will attempt to sell and replace with a B&C or MCMILLAN or something. Thanks for you time and info.

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

you already have it, may as well try to fix it. cost you less than a new one. the metal and epoxy will stiffen that right up better than viagra. it should solve the problem your having if you run the steel/aluminum all the way to the hand grip area or as far as you can. why buy when you can fix? cost you $17 bucks and a little time

 

[G and R]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

Choate...Junk!

If you have to stinkin' rig it up with metal and epoxy to make it work, ditch it...Think about what you are doing, buy a decent stock and ditch the bullshit. You cannot not turn a chevette into a corvette, no matter how much metal and epoxy you add!

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

if he has the money and can sell the choate sure, dump it. but if not, whats $20 and some time -vs- the entire loss of whats invested in the choate plus the cost of a new stock. if he is gonna dump it, whats the harm in trying the mod?

hell for that matter, if its new, call choate, tell them whats happening, see if they will do anything for you.

 

[takeaim1st]

Re: Choate stock flexing?

CHOATE STOCKS aren't so bad. Go to 6mmbr.com. Click on Guns of the week. Russell Simmonds won the 2009 World F-TR championship using one. Also won the European and British F-TR championships.