Competition Shooting, whick dies?

[jsthntn247]

Just bought a fully custom 308 for getting into f/tr shooting. I am going to get Lapua brass and am looking at these two die sets, what do yall recommend??
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/357095/...-308-winchester
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/792423/...-308-winchester

 

[milo 2.0]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

The cool factor is pretty high on the second link, but so is the price.

 

[jsthntn247]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

Yea, strongly considering the first die set. Sucks it doesn't come with bushings.

 

[FLIGHT762]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

I use the first die set. I didn't buy the sizer with the micrometer on it. I don't feel it's really needed. I do like the micrometer on the seating die, so much easier to make notes on your COL with different bullets and being able go precisely back to those lengths with the mic.

Maybe someone can chime in on what the cost advantage is having the mic on the neck sizer.

 

[FLIGHT762]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

Forgot to mention, there is still a group buy on Redding products, but it is nearing the end. It is worth using and will save you a few bucks. Your TIn bushingd run about $22.00 ea. Would be worth it to buy 3-5 bushings when you order the dies in the group buy, but you do need to hurry.


http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2868213#Post2868213

You can PM Josh and get it going.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

I would recommend
Forster FL die, have it honed for your desired NT, thus eliminating the need for bushing, concentricity will be better than a bushing die, and no expander needed, downside is the die is only good for one brand of brass
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/p...ester/Product/FORSTER-Full-Length-Die-308-Win
http://www.forsterproducts.com/store.asp?pid=30223&catid=19938

Pick either a Forster Micrometer seater or a Redding Comp seater, I perfer the Redding because the numbers are easier to read

 

[bricktop]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

The competition neck sizer, as opposed to the type S bushing neck sizer, has a sleeve that centers the case before the neck is sized (just like the comp. seater centers before seating), which can lead to better concentricity. Haven't tried it for myself though.

 

[MitchAlsup]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

I use the first in 223 and the second in 308.

In my opinion, the micrometer dial on the bullet seater is very useful.
In my opinion, the micrometer on the neck sizer is not very useful.
I wish Redding made a kit with the S-Type NO sizer with the Competition Bullet sizer and a body die.

 

[aloreman]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

i like my le wilson dies. i use a redding body die as well

 

[QuiggyB]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

I use the first set you listed but am going to try out what Cobra mentioned. I have never used a competition neck sizer and get excellent results with the regular bushing dies.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would recommend
Forster FL die, have it honed for your desired NT, thus eliminating the need for bushing, concentricity will be better than a bushing die, and no expander needed, downside is the die is only good for one brand of brass
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/p...ester/Product/FORSTER-Full-Length-Die-308-Win
http://www.forsterproducts.com/store.asp?pid=30223&catid=19938
</div></div>

 

[TexIndian]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

I've got the second set (I don't remember it costing that much a few years back) plus a f-l comp die. You don't really need the f-l die since the kit has a body die in it, but using the f-l die saves a step. I use the seating die for plinking or blasting ammo, but for serious work I use a Wilson seater. I can't prove it makes a difference but it makes me feel better with the loads I've spend a lot of time on.

 

[jdmartin]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

I think that a Redding type s full length die with bushings and a micrometer seater is the most efficient way to go.Set up to barely push back the shoulder,the brass lasts as long as with neck sizing. It is handled the same way each time,with the fewest steps,and excellent accuracy potential.The Redding micrometer seaters make fine tuning the seating length very easy and deliver concentricity equal to Wilson chamber dies in my experience.

 

[Rando]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

*jdmartin* is spot on. been using the same Redding Comp S-type and Mic seater for almost a decade. definitely gets my vote. (then if you get handled in the comp... its not the dies. haa !!) best of luck.

 

[Leaddog]

Re: Competition Shooting, whick dies?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdmartin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think that a Redding type s full length die with bushings and a micrometer seater is the most efficient way to go.Set up to barely push back the shoulder,the brass lasts as long as with neck sizing. It is handled the same way each time,with the fewest steps,and excellent accuracy potential.The Redding micrometer seaters make fine tuning the seating length very easy and deliver concentricity equal to Wilson chamber dies in my experience. </div></div>

I use the same set-up and it's perfect. Runout is always less than .0005 as measured on the case, neck, and ogive. Some time back, German Salazar, a well known shooter and writer, published the tests results of the top seating dies and the Redding competition micrometer die came out on top, besting the Wilson.