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Custom remmy 308 project Range Report....WOW

Furtaker_.223

Furtaker_.223

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#1
Well here is the start of my project. I got the barrel on the action. I am awaiting my A5 stock.
Had it finished at 29" with a vance break. Below is a few pics.I will be adding as the project continues.

Kreiger contour #18
Remington SPS action
Action Trued and BP
U.S. Optics 20moa Rail
Tubb Recoil Lug
AZ precission Bolt handle
Vance Break

Comming soon:
NXS 5.5-22x50 NP-R1
Jewell or Timney trigger
McMillian A5 stock

And Range reports..........
Any tips is appreciated.



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#2
Re: My custom remmy 308 project

A break on a 29" .308 ?????????????
A 29" .308 ???????????????

I hope to hell ya had that thing throated for the 208 AMax's ...

I need to rebarrel my G code SPS , but not 29 .
 
#6
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29 not bad if you just want to shoot off a bench. really gets tricky moving around after that with such length and weight.

Or not bad if you plan to use open sights (longer sight picture usually results in more accurate shooting.)

Or not bad if you want higher velocities for longer ranges.

Or not bad if you want to cut it down at a later point. I like 26" for long range shooting but for a all around rifle I prefer 22".

As for scope, thats a personal pref, but get all the scope you can afford. Otherwise you will end up losing money by slowly trading up. (that what I did - started with crap Osprey International and now I have a NXS)
 
#7
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Thanks D_TROS,
I will be off the bench, maybee a little hunting, MAYBEE. I do want higher velocities for long range. I am looking at the NFX and higher end lupies. Do the leupold's have a zero stop? Right now I am leaning on the NFX though. If I didnt have to be so freaking hard headed, I could already have a A5 from JW, but as I say hard headed, I want a difrent color.
 
#11
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Question for you McMillian pros. What is the diffrence in the fills on the McMillians? The sniper, regular? Is it weight? I also cannot decide on the color to order the stock tomorow. I come up with a color, then 15 min. later I want something else. I guess I should just order.
 
#12
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Sniper fill is a smidge heavier. Not that you're concerned with weight...

Have them mix you up a custom marble. Pick any 2 or 3 colors and be done with it.
 
#13
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Since you said you're looking at triggers I'd suggest Jewell. Never felt something so crisp. I've heard that there can be some nice adjusted rem triggers, but when the day you want a different weight you have to send it back instead of adjusting it yourself.
 
#18
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It is a beast, weighing in at 9 1/2 pounds as it sits. I ordered my stock from third generation today. It is a sniper fill. I cant wait to go out and shoot this bad ass thing. My wife said I get a free work out if I take this thing hunting.

The break is pretty sweet. I like the no line look. As for the thread cap, that is another story. I may have it knurled. I wanted it to look like the break installed, hard to see the line.
 
#20
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longer also does not = more accurate. you MUST know what ur going to use it for.

Read

http://www.tacticaloperations.com/SWATbarrel/

For instance, the '09 snipers hide build rifle barrel is only 18" long. But they are doing a .298 tightbore. that is a way they are getting some lost velocity back from a shorter barrel. this rifle will still be capable of 1st round hits pretty easily to 800yds I imagine on a known distance range.

it also depends greatly on the powder. Faster burning powder will give you higher velocities in shorter barrels, with more pressure (more pressure=shorter barrel life) and where the longer barrels really shine (velocities wise) are with slow burning powders (slow burn is also good for barrel life).

But longer will give higher velocities to a certain extent. And higher velocities does not always mean more acurate. It will mean that you dont have to be as good at reading the wind tho cause the flight time is minimized.

IMHO...
 
#21
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That is a great artical. You kinda make me want to have my smith take it down some. I ordered my A5 today and it will be here Monday or Tuesday. Then Friday it goes to my smith to have the barrel channel opened up for the barrel and to have it pillar bedded. Since he is 1 1/2 hours away, I might just have him take it down more. Looks like I will have a break for sale since this one will be too small.

Damn rifles. I am never going to get to shoot this thing.

Oh well, at least I am finding this all out now. And I didnt think of a case. I dont think any of my case will fit this Log.
 
#23
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Keep the barrel as is for now.
Once you have many, many rounds through it, have the barrel removed and cut from the chamber end, rechamber and rethread it, just like a new barrel.

I don't know if you have replaced the trigger yet, but the regular remington triggers are very serviceable, even the X-Mark triggers (the new X marks are better).
They are USER adjustable, very easily done, you do not have to send them to a smith. Just don't go below 3 pounds. I found if I keep mine around 3.5, it stays pretty consistent. If you go real light with the x mark they become very inconsistent.
Otherwise, since this is a dual purpose rifle, go with the Timney.
 
#24
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Here is a few crappy pics. It goes to the smith Friday to get pillar bedded and some paint to be removed off the bolt handle. I am going to a bead blasted aluminum. I cannot seem to find a case for this beast. A rough OAL is right at 53", that is the one reason to have cut down. My smith is only going to charge 50 bucks and that includes the break. As far as the trigger goes, it still has the Xmark in it. set at a hair over 1.5lb. I like it lower so I am looking at other ones right now. I will have it by the time my rifle comes back home.


I also thought about having a side bolt release milled in.

I wasnt for sure about the color on the stock, 50% black and 50% red.
Then I got it in today and I was very pleased. I would buy another the same color.

I will post more as the beast comes togther.

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#25
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Once you have many, many rounds through it, have the barrel removed and cut from the chamber end, rechamber and rethread it, just like a new barrel.
</div></div>

Let me preface this by saying that I am not dumping on your post. Setting the barrel back will give you some extra rounds of accurate life but the wear on the barrel, to include throat erosion, will make it impossible to get double the life. The 308 is a mild cartridge, so that is on your side. Barrels are disposable.

Josh
 
#26
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Here is a couple of pics of the action sitting on the stock. Just wish I had the CNC to open up the barrel channel.....

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I did not notice, if you look real close at the coyote in the background, it's eye is lit up like in a headlight.. OH MY !!
 
#27
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I think he is cheating himself. Trying to move the muzzle closer to the target. Look at it this way. If you ever try to shoot someone and miss, you can poke em in the eye and relocate.
 
#29
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Hey fur,
When I read your post and saw the barrel assembly, the first thought that hit me was didn't the Germans build an artillery piece in WWI that was just crazy long? I think they were shooting Paris with it...from Germany!


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I'm curious as you mentioned you might do a little hunting. Does that mean you will also have to obtain hunting licenses for IN, WI, IA, MO, and KY? (all the states surrounding IL) Because you should EASILY have the range with that HAWG to do it (LOL). Just messing with you!

Anyhow, I do have to say I think that the red/black color pattern is KICK ASS! Very nice choice. Good luck with the rest of the build and keep posting, I'll be interested to see how it looks when you're all done.
 
#31
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gstaylorg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey fur,
When I read your post and saw the barrel assembly, the first thought that hit me was didn't the Germans build an artillery piece in WWI that was just crazy long? I think they were shooting Paris with it...from Germany!


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I'm curious as you mentioned you might do a little hunting. Does that mean you will also have to obtain hunting licenses for IN, WI, IA, MO, and KY? (all the states surrounding IL) Because you should EASILY have the range with that HAWG to do it (LOL). Just messing with you!

Anyhow, I do have to say I think that the red/black color pattern is KICK ASS! Very nice choice. Good luck with the rest of the build and keep posting, I'll be interested to see how it looks when you're all done. </div></div>


Rofl gotta love the humor. That is one long stick but you wont know if the length effects it till ya shoot it. Cut it down after you shoot it some and don't like the groupings.
 
#32
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That barrel is sweet. If you plan on shooting off the bench stay with the 29". Once you get good and find a load you can start shooting F class with that thing.
 
#34
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: furtaker_.223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do love the humor we all give and get here.

It went in today for the pillar bedding, recut and jewell trigger. And the trigger will be set to 6 oz.

I cant wait to get this thing done so I can start some load development.
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So you ARE cutting the barrel down? What length?

Love the stock.

My rifle has a 29 1/2 inch barrel so you can feel better about yours. Although mine is factory and just a tad over 70 years old.
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#35
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Yes, I decided to go ahead and cut it down. With the break it will finish at 29" without the break it will be 27". I would of kept it at that length, but I cant find a case that would fit. A rough measurement was 54 1/2, I want to keep all the spacers on the stock. It is only going down 2" but that is what it is going to take to get it into a 1750 case.

I myself do love the stock, I will buy another like that, Or maybee switch to a 50% black and 50% yellow. Just so many color options.

I found this from third gen. shooting supply and had it at my door in 3 days.
 
#37
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Fur,

Definitely don't take my humor too seriously. You're going to have a really fine rifle and honestly, the more I look at the pics, the more that long barrel grows on me. So, before you do anything RASH, take a look at these:

Cabela's "Bullet Proof" Black Powder Rifle case Cat.# IK-226582
(62" long, $269.99)

Americase Single Rifle (Extra Long) Cat.# 4003
(55" long, $276.67)

Impact Case and Container (ICC) Single Black Powder Rifle Case Cat.# 6212-A
(62" long, $296.99)

TZ Case "Toughmate" Alumitech Ultra-62 Firearm Case (Optics Planet)
(62" long, $242.99)

So I think you have a few options for that will accomodate your weapon. They're a little pricey, but probably worth it considering your overall investment when all is said and done. Good luck with the rest of the build and let know how it shoots.
 
#38
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Once you have many, many rounds through it, have the barrel removed and cut from the chamber end, rechamber and rethread it, just like a new barrel.
</div></div>

Let me preface this by saying that I am not dumping on your post. Setting the barrel back will give you some extra rounds of accurate life but the wear on the barrel, to include throat erosion, will make it impossible to get double the life. The 308 is a mild cartridge, so that is on your side. Barrels are disposable.

Josh </div></div>

True, maybe my wording was poor, you won't get double the barrel life, but when you cut from the chamber end and rechamber, you now have a new throat. With all of his extra barrel length, he could have cut 3" from the chamber end, moving him past the throat damage. Of course, it is a moot point now.
His tool was too long, so he had it shortened.
 
#39
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I don't take anything here serious. Trust me, I know when someone is having fun and one is serious. It was origionaly supposed to be finished at 29" and when I took it to my smith he cut it to the wrong length. I was measuring from the front of the lug, He corrected me and went to the chamber end, and what do you know, He fudged up, He had it 1 1/2 long. So he is correcting it.

I decided to take it down to 27" and 29" with the break.
He is eating the labor cost, and trading breaks, since my origional break will no longer fit.

So with haveing it re-cut new break and the jewell trigger is only costing the price of the trigger, bedding and pillars and labor on those.

As for cases, I might get by with a 50" inside. If not I will look into those cases.

As for the price of the case, you are correct gstaylorg, that kind of dough in a rifle im not going to put this in a soft case, especially when I put on a NXS.

I will be sure to put up finnished pics.
 
#44
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300snipe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks good so far. What scope is that in the pics? Doesn't look like an NXS. </div></div>

It isn't an NXS he is ordering one he said. As far as the one in the pic you got me...
 
#49
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Well got the rifle back today.

New:

Jewell triger set at 6 oz.
Barrel cut back to 27", 29" with break
New thread protector, with knurled grip
Piller bedded
bolt knob bead blasted
stocks barrel channel opened up

Dont pay attention to the scope. Still need to get the NFX.
I have this one on so I can go do a break in in the morning.

I am realling digging the stock. All in all, I am happy how
this has turned out.

Next will be range reports...

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