Cutting food programs will make people fatter...uhh...really?

[vh20]

You ask for them, i take my time to run them down, then you don't read them, classic. LOL. I love it, taking issue with something you didn't read. The article does not contradict itself. You have to read the entire two sentences for context, and not try to take one out of context to start. then finish the article for the rest of context to that statement.

"But even though the difference isn’t great, grass-fed beef generally contains higher amounts of certain nutrients.

Compared with grain-fed beef, grass-fed is much higher in the following vitamins:

• Vitamin A. Grass-fed beef contains carotenoid precursors to vitamin A, such as beta carotene.
• Vitamin E. This antioxidant sits in your cell membranes and protects them from oxidation (4Trusted Source).

I.E much higher in A and E, rest of the articles lays out things it is only a little higher in. i was going to explain some more, but its all in the article for anyone who isn't just being ignorant.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure an animal that grew standing on grass, will be healthier than an animal raised in knee deep shit. You can get feed lot grass fed also. Pasture raised is what you actually want.

5% less than the standard beef at the grocer? Have you ever seen 75/25 at the grocery store? I don't think I have never seen 75/25. 80/20, 90/10 and 93/7 but never 75/25. Mcdaonalds is 80/20, the cheapest ground beef I know of.

The grass fed article very plainly lays out that two pieces of beef from different cows are not the same.

The article about cuts of meat, gives context as to what cut of meat an 80/20 mcdonalds pattie compares to. I.E one of the higher fat content, less healthy cuts, like a ribeye. No fat and protein aren't the whole story as laid out in the grass fed article.

Maybe just go take a short class about nutrition.

The general public perception that a salad is healthier than a big mac is correct. The claim that a big mac is nothing but a salad and beef with bread is stupid.

Please quit wasting time, quit deflecting, and make your point. Lay me out a balanced diet eating only at McDonalds.

Dear Lord...
I made a statement that one cut of beef has essentially the same nutritional value as any other (from the same animal, I used ribeye vs hamburger in my example), except for fat content which varies with the cut. This was in relation to the quality of beef at McD's vs what you get in the grocery store (where grain-fed is still standard). That statement is still correct. You somehow got off on a grass-fed tangent. That's fine - eat what you want and pay what you wish, but it isn't the kind of beef this discussion was about. And YES, there is 75/25 ground beef for sale in every grocery store I go in (if it isn't a boutique store). Your article, which I "didn't read" says so as well. I'm not getting into the grass-fed vs. grain-fed argument other than to say there's a lot of "climate change-type science" involved, and the SUMMARY quoted from your article at the bottom (which I didn't read but took issue with) states "Although grass and grain-fed beef differ in several nutrients, their effects on your health may be similar." But, I will still reiterate that one cut of beef is essentially the same nutritional value as another from the same animal or other similarly raised animal (i.e. my original statement of ribeye vs. hamburger meat) except for varying fat content. I've had a little more than "a short course about nutrition" - Animal Biochem, Feeds and Feeding, Digestive Physiology, Ruminant Physiology, and quite a few others. But I'm not here to sway your opinion, or call you ignorant.

 

[supercorndogs]

Back to my point - you can live a perfectly balanced nutritional lifestyle at McD's if you want to, but you can't do it buying nothing but french fries and shakes, and doing it on what's left over after buying the newest Air Jordan and iPhone. REAL poor people understand this.

No, you made a statement that one could eat a well balanced diet, while only eating at McDonalds. Back it up, or shut up about it.

You asked for articles and evidence. I gave them to you and you claim they are incorrect without reading them. ? ? ? That is the very definition of ignorant.

 

[hunter8793]

Our system needs an overhaul

 

[vh20]

No, you made a statement that one could eat a well balanced diet, while only eating at McDonalds. Back it up, or shut up about it.

You asked for articles and evidence. I gave them to you and you claim they are incorrect without reading them. ? ? ? That is the very definition of ignorant.

They were not necessarily incorrect. One of them does contradict itself, despite your assertion it doesn't, and it makes some claims that aren't universally accepted by the industry. As I said, it's very "climate-change-like." You can't seem to figure out that I have read them, it was only this morning when I said I did a quick scan but did not read every word.

Now, I did say that I could lead "a healthy lifestyle off of nothing but McDonalds if forced to", and I could. Look at the menu for yourself - you can do it just as well as anyone. But you jumped in with ""beef"...if it comes from a cow it must be beef, wright(sic)?" To which I replied that hamburger meat has the same nutritional value as steak - from a cut-to-cut comparison the only real difference is fat content. When I learned to grade beef on-the-hoof according to USDA standards, from USDA Standard to USDA Choice, there is no perceivable nutritional difference. In Meats Lab, a Choice cut had the same nutritional value as Standard, but a higher fat content. The point that I was making is that McD's uses 100% beef patties (confirmed in the article you supplied, but I already knew). It isn't "beef" with scary quotations around it to make it seem like a fake. It's beef...just beef. And as I was saying, it has a decent nutritional value just like other beef, and along with some other good choices can be used as part of a decent diet from their menu. You seem to think I'm advocating that you can be an Olympic athlete on a McD's diet. That's not what this was about. Per the OP, it was about how you don't HAVE to become a 400 lb. hog just because you eat there. I don't know where you were going with the rest of this.

"Ignorant" and "shut up" all in one post...really?

 

[jcam]

If it taste good don’t eat it.