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CZ 455 Varmint Review

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I finally got my CZ 455 Varmint today, so I thought I'd do a bit of a first impressions review, with a range report follow up in a few weeks after I get a base and optic in, plus a little seasoning of the barrel is established. Within the first hour, had it torn apart and snapped a few pictures.

Fresh out of the box, it has that classic CZ heavy barreled look, with a few pleasant surprises. A Walnut stock with a palm swell, a quality rubber butt pad, nice checkering around the grip, sling studs, a nice even sort of matte blued finish. The stock's barrel channel provided more than enough room to ensure a free float.
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The photo does the palm swell no justice, it is only on the bolt side of the stock, Leftie shooters do without one.
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Some specs on the CZ 455 Varmint:

Barrel: 20” .22LR as shown, switch barrel optional barrels (.17HMR and .22WMR) 1:16 twist Cold hammered, free floated. .866” diameter, non tapered.
Stock: Walnut, palm swell, large barrel channel, checkered grip
Weight: 7.1 lbs
Trigger: Adjustable for poundage (according to the manual, 3.3 lb to 4 lb range)
Sights: none, 11mm dovetail for optics
Magazine: 5 round polymer, 10 round available. Steel also available.



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The action, much like the other CZ rimfire line, has that "big rifle feel and look". There is a small lever in front of the magazine well that is the magazine release.
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The bottom metal is classic CZ, and the action mounting bolts are T-30 torx, which is a nice touch. Note the square section in the rear of the mag well - it is pinned, but easily removeable to allow .17HMR or .22WMR magazines to fit for the switch barrel option.
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The top of the action reveals the 11 mm dovetail, the rear mounting bolt hole, the magazine well caliber change spacer, and the guide rail section for the bolt. This is also part of the switch barrel process and will talked about later. The ejection port is rather large, and allows plenty of room to clean, clear FTEs, and to single feed rounds (single shot adapter available).
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The heavy .866" non tapered bull barrel has a simple concaved even crown to it, edge to center.
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The overall fit of the bolt, action, barrel, and stock are quite good. There are a few tooling marks here and there, but nothing like the CZ rifles of old.

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The major parts to whole platform. Switch calibers / barrels, you will have to go this far. Note the "extra" piece of formed metal that goes between the stock and the trigger guard. It is not only a dust cover or guide for the trigger, but actually a trigger adjustment tool that fits in that area. Pretty slick actually...
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As most CZ's, the action is very beefy, the bottom view shows the rear action mounting bolt hole, trigger assembly and sear, magazine well (plastic, but metal aftermarket ones are available) with caliber change spacer. The second action screw mounting bolt hole is just in front of the mag well. The Two 3mm hex screws to either side of the hole is how to remove the barrel. Simply unscrew and pull (while gently wiggling) the barrel out.
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The barrel removal hex bolts didn't have lock tite on them, i suggest applying for the reassembly, or to do it anyway even if not intending on removing the barrel at all so the bolts don't become loose.
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The hex bolts set against the cuts you see in the chanber area and keeps the barrel from being removed. The right angle cut in you see on the bottom of the barrel rests on the silverish bolt guide mentioned earlier. This helps bring the whole thing toghether, and prevent twisting.


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Another view of the barrel notches for the srews and for interlocking with the bolt guide.
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The action can be further broken down by removing the two 3mm mounting bolts that hold on the magazine well. Be careful, the spacer for caliber change is pinned, and pinned VERY lightly. Make sure not to lose it. The mag well bolts also hold the silverish bolt guide in place. I must add that the plastic Magazine well should be replaced with an aftermarket metal one. As I was figuring out the trigger, a slight bit of torque while holding the rifle caused the magazine well to crack! I suggest that if getting a new CZ with the plastic magazine well, you should budget for a metal replacement.
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As I was taking it apart, I figured I might as well take out the magazine release lever. There are extended length aftermarket ones available, just push out the pin. Watch not to lose the pin or the spring.

The trigger assembly. It is adjustable (barely) for poundage. I found it full of creep, and will be replacing it with a spring kit or an adjustable sear, or both. IMO the trigger is the biggest drawback to the rifle. The set trigger available on the 453 line should have been incorporated into the 455. The assembly is pinned, there is much on the internet about removal and adjustments. The main adjustment is the nut that is at the bottom of the large spring.
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The bolt is just as beefy as the receiver is, and is as centerfire reminacent.
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Large, beefy extractors, using the familiar C clip for retention.
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It has a clean look, and the saftey is large and has a positive engagement feel / function. The round back end of the striker / firing pin assembly shows to some extent a loaded or cocked indication. The bolt can be disassembled further to gain access to the spring.

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Overall the CZ 455 Varmint is an attractive package that allows the switching of calibers to add versatility. Surely there will be custom barrels available from other manufacturers as it is very easy to swap out and no gunsmithing involved, just a 3mm hex wrench. Either a CZ .22WMR, .17HMR, .17Mach2 barrel can be installed (sporter or bull according to CZ), and a quick removal of the magazine spacer and a change of magazines is all that is needed.

The factory trigger has much to be desired, but there are several aftermarket options available. As mentioned previously, the set trigger group should have been used. The action mounting bolts are spaced nicely at either side of the receiver, and the Torx (#T-30) adds a solid grip for torqueing.

The barrel channel is opened very wide, which is hard to find. Perhaps it's to help with the removal / installation of the barrel. But it does offer a true free float.

So far if wanting to make up a dedicated "tool kit" for a CZ 455:

3mm hex (Allen) wrench
T-30 Torx bit
3/32nd punch for the trigger pins (i'll give my brass sight drifts a try first, or use an extra Allen wrench of the same size), and to politely push out the magazine release lever and spacer.

To nit pick a little, the maunual that came with the rifle is less than optimal, with text referring you to figures / pictures that are not in it. So those that are not mechanically inclined may have a little difficulty understanding what to do. However there is a lot of information on the internet on how to adjust or replace the trigger, and an actual video of how to change barrels is available on the CZ site.

Perhaps another suggestion would be the addition of the receiver being drilled and tapped for "regular" scope bases, and maybe a better looking trigger guard should have been considered. A three position saftey would have also been a good addition.

It appears CZ has answered the question of "Which caliber?" by allowing you change as you go, both with sporter and bull barrels. Although this is a not a new concept, it is done really well, wrapped with a Walnut stock, and in a package which is unmistakably CZ.

As a range report is not available at this time one will be added in the future to confirm that the 455 holds true to the same accuracy they are known for.
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UPDATE - 05/27/2012 RANGE REPORT

The range gods were smiling today, our local range is noted for wind especially as the ground starts to warm, however barely a breeze & warm so off to the range.

To start off, I did a quick boresight and shot 2 rounds (lower left bull) and then made some adjustments to the scope to "bring it in". After 25 rounds, the rifle was shooting 1" groups at 50 yards, by the 6th group (upper right) and shooting lines (upper left) I was confident enough to get a "virgin rifle" range report. It was also interesting to see the groups shrink as more rounds were shot. After 150 rounds the groups were a jagged hole at 50 yards.

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First a few things about the rifle. Shooting from the bench, the comb of the stock was very comfortable, as being a lefty I could not take full advantage of the palm swell, but the cheek weld and grip was comfortable none the less. Closing the bolt shot after shot had a solid feeling to it. The bolt felt smoother and smoother as it was getting broken in.

I did notice one thing and don't know if it is a common element or just individual to my rifle, but the last round in the magazine just didn't want to feed properly. 22 fired 5 round mags out of 25 and 3 different types of ammo had this happen, so I become tolerant of it. The bullet also deformed slightly and the shot actually printed badly on paper. A couple of the groups below have that 5th and 10th round printing away from the rest of the group. No big deal though, the magazine spring pressure can be tweeked, hopefully that is the only issue on that topic. All of the spent shells from all three ammos ejected consistantly to the 2:30 ish of the shooter, out and way from the shooter, almost AR15 like. The ejection was so consistant that a well placed coffee cup could catch most of the spent shells.

If there was one thing that really problematic was the trigger. Way too much creep (which will be fixed with a trigger kit in the future) that was inconsistant - one time it was somewhat smooth taking up the slack (yes, that is where that saying comes from), and sometimes it was gritty and in "stages" - BUT when the slack was taken up, the trigger broke clean, on the lowest poundage setting advertised as being anywhere between 2.5 to 3 lbs. There is no doubt in my mind that the groups below can even be smaller (especially at 100 yards) with a "proper" trigger.

10 round groups shot from the bench, Harris bipod & rear bag. Optic set on 10X, 1" bull at 50 yards, 1.5" bull at 100 yards. 3 ammos used: Federal Bulk Pack HV, CCI Standard Velocity, Wolf MT. All ammos were weight and rim thickness sorted, then randomly loaded into the magazine to create a random "straight out of the box" condition. 10 rounds were fired off target between ammo manufacture change.

Groups were measured center to center (CTC) and outer edge to outer edge (ETE). The ETE measurements were less formal, if it was just under and inch, I reported -1". Groups that were going the 32nds route were just reported -9/16" for example.

74 deg F, 67% Humidity, <3 MPH 3:00 wind, sunny, 50 Yards.

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79 deg F, 65% Humidity, <5 MPH 3:00 wind, sunny, 100 Yards.

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05-29-2012 ADDITIONAL RANGE REPORT

200 Yards, mighty impressed on how cheap HV bulk ammo is handles through this rifle. Target bull was 3.5", 82-84 deg F, 85% hum, <5MPH 10:00 wind, scope on 10X, Harris bipod & rear bag, shot from the bench.

Some of this (again) can be a bit of the shooter still not comfortable with the creepy trigger, and probably adding to the vertical stringing during follow through. None of these felt as if they were actually pulled. But I think it does give an impression of what the "virgin out-of-the-box" rifle will do before any enhancements.

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Overall (except for that 5th and 10th round slightly deformed failure to feed) the 455 produces some decent groups, no doubt a lessened creep will improve the 100 yard groups. I was expecting to do a little better at 100 yards with the CCI and Wolf ammo, but the fact that the shooter not being familiar with the trigger could be the reason for the rifle not meeting my immediate goal of 1" or less. Another session will be shot and compared after the trigger kit installation. But as far as producing groups with different types of ammo, the rifle is pretty consistant. Except for one hit with Federal bulk pack, 9 of the lower grade rounds were under 1.5" at 100 yards! Most likely after the trigger kit and more seasoning of the barrel is achieved, the mid and higher graded ammos will produce those MOA groups at 100 yards. Another thing to point out is that the 455 appears to be less finicky to ammo changes than other rimfires I've used.

Off hand shooting is a little tough as the rifle is a bit nose heavy, but addition of weight can be added in certain areas for a better balance if one chooses to do so.

All in all the rifle is solid, consistant, and a good looker too. As a "virgin" rifle with no historical proven performance enhancements (trigger, mounting bolt torques, etc.) it did well. A few of those minor adjustments and I'm very confident that it will be scary accurate at 50 yards, and a 1" or under shooter at 100 yards.
 
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Future plans for this particular rifle:

DIP 25 MOA extended base
UTG quick detachable rings
DIP trigger spring kit or adjustable sear & trigger shoe (maybe a Rifle basix trigger instead)
DIP aluminum mag well
DIP extended mag release
Condidering a Centerpoint or Leapers 8-32 56mm side focus mildot scope
Anti cant rail mounted bubble
Harris bipod
Oversized bolt knob (haven't decided on round or teardrop)

AICS airsoft stock conversion (Well G96 folder) project.

I was thinking a camo paint job to add some attitude, but we'll see how slick it looks when together. After all it's going to be a bench queen.

Will shoot it with the regular stock to get a baseline, then after the Airsoft stock goes on to compare the difference. May take a while before it's all together.


UPDATE 5/24/2012: I must add that the plastic Magazine well should be replaced with an aftermarket metal one. As I was installing a few of the DIP items mentioned earlier, a slight bit of torque while holding the rifle caused the magazine well to crack! I suggest that if getting a new CZ with the plastic magazine well, you should budget for a metal replacement.

A quick email to CZ will be sent tonight, suggesting that they take a look at incorporating a metal magazine well into this, or any other model, that employs the plastic magazine well. I'll include the price of the replacement one I'll be purchasing, perhaps (I doubt) they'll spring for it. I don't really see the need to replace it with another plastic one, even if they send one. I didn't even make it to the range as of yet.

Other than the creep on the trigger, this is the biggest drawback (IMO a pretty big one) I've found, especially if you plan on switching calibers often.
 
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Nice review! Where'd you get it at? I've been looking for one.
 
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I wouldn't spend money on a new trigger before trying the yodave kit for $15. My 452 breaks at 1 pound 10 ounces with no creep. 20 minute install.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NoGi_Bear</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice review! Where'd you get it at? I've been looking for one.</div></div>

actually got it through CZ USA, they have a discount program for Hunter Trapper education instructors. $375.00 including shipping to my FFL. all the other gun stores in my area has them listed, but are not available - $410.00 + tax if they had them. The stock is pretty attractive, for a traditional look some wood oil would be nice or a gloss finish. i'm almost feeling guilty about going the "tacticoolish" route with it.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't spend money on a new trigger before trying the yodave kit for $15. My 452 breaks at 1 pound 10 ounces with no creep. 20 minute install.</div></div>

thanks, i just read and email from DIP, the adjustable sear they have will not fit the 455. they have spring kits that will fit the 455, but that will do nothing for the creep. for $15.00 the yo dave sounds like a plan. i like 3/4 to 1 lb ish for bench queens, i'll be melting some plastic on the card this evening.


CZ really should have put the set trigger (which i've shot before and is really the best of both worlds) or an adjustable sear in it from the factory. even for a few bucks more, it would have been worth it - IMO new model should have gotten a new trigger, or at least the best one they have.


(later that evening)...

i have also been looking at eric brooks trigger kit ($14.00, same concept as the yo dave now $18.00) , according to his site his kits can get you down to .75 to 1 lb, and the lowest i've seen on the net is 1.5lbs for the yo dave. send an email to both, hopefully will have an answer soon. i guess there were some problems actually getting a product from brooks, but his website is back up with an actual apology, hopefully he's back in business.

of course there is the rifle basix option,http://www.riflebasix.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=184 but if the kits will produce the same results for a 1/4 of the price of a RB trigger, it sounds like more $ can be allocated for more upgrades.

i also found this on a DIY trigger mod for the cz:
http://fuzzylimey.net/projects/452triggermods.html
seems pretty simple.
 
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Great review and it is extremely thorough! I look forward to seeing this rifle transform. I have been looking for a good 22 for quite awhile. This may tip the scales for me. Thanks for taking the time to write this up.
 
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It is worth noting (IMHO) that in the 455, the second bolt lug is no longer present (like the 452). A manufacturing change to enhance speed of production and reduction of machine time/tooling.

Does it make difference? Probably not. Just hurts my sensibility of the old adage "if it ain't broke...".

Great write up, and despite the design change, I may actually purchase one of these as well...
 
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Thanks for doing this! I've got the 455 but haven't pulled her apart yet.

Good options mentioned for the trigger. I think I'll start with the Yo Dave or the Eric Brooks spring mods. If that doesn't make the cut, then I'll look at the aftermarkets.

Just to mention, Timney also makes a 455 trigger. I'd venture a guess it is nice. Good to know about the RB one...although it is the same cost as the Timney.
 
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side note on the stock trigger (i just found out last night):

there is a tool to adjust it. it is located under the trigger, exterior of the stock, between the stock and the trigger guard / bottom metal. being new to a CZ taken apart, i just thought this was some part to cover the whole in the stock for the trigger, turns out it's an trigger adjustment tool.

i edited the original post(s) to reflect that.

come to think of it, they should have included the 3mm hex wrench for removing the barrel. when disassemble it again, i will have to look...they may have stashed one of those somewhere
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So far if wanting to make up a dedicated "tool kit" for a CZ 455:

3mm hex (Allen) wrench
T-30 Torx bit
3/32nd punch for the trigger pins (i'll give my brass sight drifts a try first, or use an extra Allen wrench of the same size), and to politely push out the magazine release lever and spacer.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't spend money on a new trigger before trying the yodave kit for $15. My 452 breaks at 1 pound 10 ounces with no creep. 20 minute install.</div></div>

thanks, i just read and email from DIP, the adjustable sear they have will not fit the 455. they have spring kits that will fit the 455, but that will do nothing for the creep. for $15.00 the yo dave sounds like a plan. i like 3/4 to 1 lb ish for bench queens, i'll be melting some plastic on the card this evening.


CZ really should have put the set trigger (which i've shot before and is really the best of both worlds) or an adjustable sear in it from the factory. even for a few bucks more, it would have been worth it - IMO new model should have gotten a new trigger, or at least the best one they have..............


(later that evening)...

i have also been looking at eric brooks trigger kit ($14.00, same concept as the yo dave now $18.00) , according to his site his kits can get you down to .75 to 1 lb, and the lowest i've seen on the net is 1.5lbs for the yo dave. send an email to both, hopefully will have an answer soon. i guess there were some problems actually getting a product from brooks, but his website is back up with an actual apology, hopefully he's back in business............


.........i also found this on a DIY trigger mod for the cz:
http://fuzzylimey.net/projects/452triggermods.html
seems pretty simple....... </div></div>

I would not want a set trigger so I am glad that they kept the trigger as is should I ever buy a 455. The Brooks site is up but he hasn't done any business for a while now. I'm not sure why the site still runs.

YoDave on ebay is the equivalent and you will get the kit quickly. The shim takes up the creeep and the spring lightens the trigger. It is a simple concept that really works.

I used the second largest shim and the second strongest spring. I could get it lighter if I wanted. Once a spring is installed there is a nut than can be used to compress the spring and increase the weight of the trigger.

Watch the videos on youtube and it is easy to do. It helps to have a roll pin punch to start the new pin that comes with the yo dave kit.
 
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UPDATE 5/24/2012: I must add that the plastic Magazine well should be replaced with an aftermarket metal one. As I was installing a few of the DIP items mentioned earlier, a slight bit of torque while holding the rifle caused the magazine well to crack! I suggest that if getting a new CZ with the plastic magazine well, you should budget for a metal replacement.

A quick email to CZ will be sent tonight, suggesting that they take a look at incorporating a metal magazine well into this, or any other model, that employs the plastic magazine well. I'll include the price of the replacement one I'll be purchasing, perhaps (I doubt) they'll spring for it. I don't really see the need to replace it with another plastic one, even if they send one. I didn't even make it to the range as of yet.

Other than the creep on the trigger, this is the biggest drawback (IMO a pretty big one) I've found, especially if you plan on switching calibers often.
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ........ As I was installing a few of the DIP items mentioned earlier, a slight bit of torque while holding the rifle caused the magazine well to crack!............ </div></div>

I have considered buying the metal mag well from DIP, but most on the RFC CZ forum say just don't tighten the magwell screws too much and there won't be a prblem.

How exactly did yoy crack it TP?
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NoGi_Bear</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice review! Where'd you get it at? I've been looking for one.</div></div>

actually got it through CZ USA, they have a discount program for Hunter Trapper education instructors. $375.00 including shipping to my FFL. all the other gun stores in my area has them listed, but are not available - $410.00 + tax if they had them. The stock is pretty attractive, for a traditional look some wood oil would be nice or a gloss finish. i'm almost feeling guilty about going the "tacticoolish" route with it.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't spend money on a new trigger before trying the yodave kit for $15. My 452 breaks at 1 pound 10 ounces with no creep. 20 minute install.</div></div>

thanks, i just read and email from DIP, the adjustable sear they have will not fit the 455. they have spring kits that will fit the 455, but that will do nothing for the creep. for $15.00 the yo dave sounds like a plan. i like 3/4 to 1 lb ish for bench queens, i'll be melting some plastic on the card this evening.


CZ really should have put the set trigger (which i've shot before and is really the best of both worlds) or an adjustable sear in it from the factory. even for a few bucks more, it would have been worth it - IMO new model should have gotten a new trigger, or at least the best one they have.


(later that evening)...

i have also been looking at eric brooks trigger kit ($14.00, same concept as the yo dave now $18.00) , according to his site his kits can get you down to .75 to 1 lb, and the lowest i've seen on the net is 1.5lbs for the yo dave. send an email to both, hopefully will have an answer soon. i guess there were some problems actually getting a product from brooks, but his website is back up with an actual apology, hopefully he's back in business.

of course there is the rifle basix option,http://www.riflebasix.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=184 but if the kits will produce the same results for a 1/4 of the price of a RB trigger, it sounds like more $ can be allocated for more upgrades.

i also found this on a DIY trigger mod for the cz:
http://fuzzylimey.net/projects/452triggermods.html
seems pretty simple. </div></div>

I did the YoDave on my 455. The second lightest spring, and no adjusting nut takes it below 1 lb. I still feel the trigger is a tiny bit mushy and creepy after polishing the seer and trigger, and installing the kit. I'm used to a Timney in my Remington 700 and CMC in my AR15, so maybe I'm not giving a fair comparison. It's. Good rigger compared to the Savages I own...
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DWood</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ........ As I was installing a few of the DIP items mentioned earlier, a slight bit of torque while holding the rifle caused the magazine well to crack!............ </div></div>

I have considered buying the metal mag well from DIP, but most on the RFC CZ forum say just don't tighten the magwell screws too much and there won't be a prblem.

How exactly did yoy crack it TP? </div></div>

as simple as just handling the firearm. i believe the receiver got off balance in my hand and when i went to straighten back up, i heard a simple rigid plastic sound, sure enough there it is a small crack running the length of the receiver in the side of the well. it's not inoperable, but i can only see it getting worse.

i've seen it written about over tightening, i just basically snugged the bolts back up from the disassembly, heeding the advice of others.

i'm under the opinion that even a slightly forcing a slightly misaligned magazine may even crack it. for those that are going to change calibers i definately see it being a problem.

for 30.00 through DIP, i think it's better to replace it up front when you want to rather than having to replace it when you need or want to use the rifle. i'm a cheap guy, and didn't want to spend an extra 30.00 for something that isn't broke, but in this case it's worth the piece of mind.

BTW with DIP, the mag well got shipped the very next day, 12 hours after the order. they know how to satisfy their customers, no doubt about it.

i'll piece togther a little review of the DIP mag well when i get it, the extended mag release & the 25 moa base.
 
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I didn't,t know about metal mag well options...thanks!
I will check out the DIP offering
 
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05/27/2012 RANGE REPORT

The range gods were smiling today, our local range is noted for wind especially as the ground starts to warm, however barely a breeze & warm so off to the range.

To start off, I did a quick boresight and shot 2 rounds (lower left bull) and then made some adjustments to the scope to "bring it in". After 25 rounds, the rifle was shooting 1" groups at 50 yards, by the 6th group (upper right) and shooting lines (upper left) I was confident enough to get a "virgin rifle" range report. It was also interesting to see the groups shrink as more rounds were shot. After 150 rounds the groups were a jagged hole at 50 yards.

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First a few things about the rifle. Shooting from the bench, the comb of the stock was very comfortable, as being a lefty I could not take full advantage of the palm swell, but the cheek weld and grip was comfortable none the less. Closing the bolt shot after shot had a solid feeling to it. The bolt felt smoother and smoother as it was getting broken in.

I did notice one thing and don't know if it is a common element or just individual to my rifle, but the last round in the magazine just didn't want to feed properly. 22 fired 5 round mags out of 25 and 3 different types of ammo had this happen, so I become tolerant of it. The bullet also deformed slightly and the shot actually printed badly on paper. A couple of the groups below have that 5th and 10th round printing away from the rest of the group. No big deal though, the magazine spring pressure can be tweeked, hopefully that is the only issue on that topic.

If there was one thing that really problematic was the trigger. Way too much creep (which will be fixed with a trigger kit in the future) that was inconsistant - one time it was somewhat smooth taking up the slack (yes, that is where that saying comes from), and sometimes it was gritty and in "stages" - BUT when the slack was taken up, the trigger broke clean, on the lowest poundage setting advertised as being anywhere between 2.5 to 3 lbs. There is no doubt in my mind that the groups below can even be smaller (especially at 100 yards) with a "proper" trigger.

10 round groups shot from the bench, Harris bipod & rear bag. Optic set on 10X, 1" bull at 50 yards, 1.5" bull at 100 yards. 3 ammos used: Federal Bulk Pack HV, CCI Standard Velocity, Wolf MT. All ammos were weight and rim thickness sorted, then randomly loaded into the magazine to create a random "straight out of the box" condition. 10 rounds were fired off target between ammo manufacture change.

Groups were measured center to center (CTC) and outer edge to outer edge (ETE). The ETE measurements were less formal, if it was just under and inch, I reported -1". Groups that were going the 32nds route were just reported -9/16" for example.

74 deg F, 67% Humidity, <3 MPH 3:00 wind, sunny, 50 Yards.

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79 deg F, 65% Humidity, <5 MPH 3:00 wind, sunny, 100 Yards.

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When moving to 200 yards, the wind picked up and was 5-12 MPH changing from left to right. I didn't feel it was a fair condition to do a 200 yard report, but hopefully a near in the future range trip will produce better conditions and report.


Overall (except for that 5th and 10th round slightly deformed failure to feed) the 455 produces some decent groups, no doubt a lessened creep will improve the 100 yard groups. I was expecting to do a little better at 100 yards with the CCI and Wolf ammo, but the fact that the shooter not being familiar with the trigger could be the reason for the rifle not meeting my immediate goal of 1" or less. Another session will be shot and compared after the trigger kit installation. But as far as producing groups with different types of ammo, the rifle is pretty consistant. Except for one hit with Federal bulk pack, 9 of the lower grade rounds were under 1.5" at 100 yards! Most likely after the trigger kit and more seasoning of the barrel is achieved, the mid and higher graded ammos will produce those MOA groups at 100 yards. Another thing to point out is that the 455 appears to be less finicky to ammo changes than other rimfires I've used.

Off hand shooting is a little tough as the rifle is a bit nose heavy, but addition of weight can be added in certain areas for a better balance if one chooses to do so.

All in all the rifle is solid, consistant, and a good looker too. As a "virgin" rifle with no historical proven performance enhancements (trigger, mounting bolt torques, etc.) it did well. A few of those minor adjustments and I'm very confident that it will be scary accurate at 50 yards, and a 1" or under shooter at 100 yards.
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

Top Predator:

Excellent feedback...you mentioned that:
<span style="font-style: italic">I did notice one thing and don't know if it is a common element or just individual to my rifle, but the last round in the magazine just didn't want to feed properly. 22 fired 5 round mags out of 25 and 3 different types of ammo had this happen, so I become tolerant of it. The bullet also deformed slightly and the shot actually printed badly on paper. A couple of the groups below have that 5th and 10th round printing away from the rest of the group</span>

I noticed the exact same thing (I'm still breaking mine in too). Quite frustrating, as that last round gets banged up and isn't worth much it seems. I also noticed inconsistencies in pressures required to operate the bolt--sometimes it seems smooth, sometimes forced. I hope that eases up after a time...as I'm suspecting that may have something to do with some frustrating fliers I have had.

I did have an odd day--started off with CCI Std vel @ 100 yds and it was HORRIBLE! I was getting 3+" groups and wondering WTF?
I switched to Wolf MT and the next 5 shot group was 0.7". I had a few more like that, then they started to open up to ~ 1.0 to 2.0". I started wondering WTF again...

To end up the day, the last group was 0.522"...leaving me a little perplexed. At least I ended on a high note
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I think you are right about that trigger. Getting the spring kit or dropping in a Timney will go a long way.

I will say this...I'm interested to see what happens with this rifle.
 
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^^Thanks, just to add I used a 10 round mag, no issues. Looking at both from the rear, the 5 rounder's follower (flush with the top of the mag lips) seems to be higher than the 10 rounder's (flush with the bottom of the "notch"). Probably a spring tension issue, will have to try to compress it more or cut a little of the coil.

Also to note that the spent shells ejected quite consistantly to the 2:30ish of the shooter - out and way ejecting much like an AR15 - so consistant that no doubt a well placed coffee cup could have caught most of the 300+ spent casings.

05-29-2012 ADDITIONAL RANGE REPORT

200 Yards, mighty impressed on how cheap HV bulk ammo is handles through this rifle. Target bull was 3.5", 82-84 deg F, 85% hum, <5MPH 10:00 wind, scope on 10X, Harris bipod & rear bag, shot from the bench.

Some of this (again) can be a bit of the shooter still not comfortable with the creepy trigger, and probably adding to the vertical stringing during follow through. None of these felt as if they were actually pulled. But I think it does give an impression of what the "virgin out-of-the-box" rifle will do before any enhancements.

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Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

TP--

Your 455, like mine, seems to be liking the Wolf MT. I haven't taken it to 200 yards yet, but will post back when I do.

Nice shooting!

Interesting to note, I felt the same way about my groups when they were getting all wonky...it didn't seem like me. I felt they were legit shots. Maybe that creepy trigger was messing me up too.

I'm about ready to order the YoDave kit, and I'm interested in seeing how things progress from there.
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting to note, I felt the same way about my groups when they were getting all wonky</div></div>

Dealt with the same problem, inconsistent groups from a CZ 455.
One group would be tight, the next would be throwing at random.
Not the trigger, not the receiver (pillared and shimmed)
Built a test rest to hold the rifle so all I had to do was load and fire.
Still kept getting random patterns from the 22lr and .17 hmr barrel.
Only comparison that came to mind was similar to the shot pattern
of my cheap plastic stocked Savage 64 that the kids use.
The problem with that rifle is stock flex, majorly so.
Hooking the butt of the 455 with my foot and gripping the underside
of the walnut stock just forward of the trigger, applied lateral
pressure to the fore end of the stock. Bad news, it moves about 15 thousandths
to one side before resistance is felt. Half of that 15 thousandths slop
applied along the 10 inches of fore stock and carried out to 100 yards
produces an error of about 2.5 inches, which was about the amount of error
I was chasing. Ended up test shimming the barrel to the stock
and found that it did a major job of tightening the groups.
I think what I did was to dampen recoil flex in the stock.
Don't believe me? Try it yourself with cardboard shims, won't hurt the rifle.

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Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

Jaia, that sounds like an easy, non-invasive test. I will certainly give it a try.

I have a Manners T4 on order (since March....'come on guys!), so this may end up being a moot point. The stock should be coming pre-pillared.

Prior to that, I will give your test a whirl as well.

Thanks for the tip!
 
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Easy to see the results that the shimming of the barrel produces.
Big difference between the unshimmed barrel pattern of the top left,
the progression from sprawl to tighter and stringing patterns
down to the final pattern on the bottom left.

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Started inserting shims closest to the receiver in an attempt
to keep as much of the barrel free floated as possible.
Kept moving further and further towards the muzzle trying
different shim thicknesses under and alongside the barrel.
When you hit the sweet spot, there's no doubt, groups get tight.
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

Hmm - the OP's post shows similar groups with CCI and Wolf not shimmed at 50yds - Im wondering if your rifle is an exception.
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

Nope, others have reported similar results with 455 barrel shimming.
Testing with a temporary shim is an easy way to verify my results for yourself.
Shimming may help or not, depending on how flexible your stock is.
A similar result for bedding/shimming of a 455 Lilja barrel was posted here...

455 Lilja Range Report

Here's another set of test firings with a 17 hmr barrel in the same 455 stock.
Same procedure for testing shim locations, start at receiver, move forward.
Scope setting was not changed during testing, poa was center of bull.

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Note the 4 in 1 on the bottom right bullseye.
 
Re: CZ 455 Varmint Review

Yep rimfires are querky little bastards indeed.

All I have learned thus far is JB weld is fairly cheap, makes an excellent bedding/shimming compound and is easy to remove with a Dremel and a burr
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Funny I cam across this tonight as I have been over on RFC as of late. Just bedded my 455 again tonight as I modified a Boyds tacticool for a 452 to fit it.

Use some modeling clay to play with the barrel shimming and let us know how it goes.

GOOD LUCK!

A06
 
Very nice review. Thanks for all the info guys. Been looking at these for awhile. I like the look of the wood stock but think I'll just go with the manners stocked one. Be close to my FN then.
 
Getting mine Monday. Need to keep this review close at hand. Thanks for your time.
 
Top Predator, that is a great review. I would vote for this becoming a sticky... anyone considering buying this very popular rifle be be well served by reading this first. I have a heavily worked over CZ455PT and went with the Timney, which I love. It is much more expensive than going the Yo Dave route, but I could not be happier and highly recommend them. After a few thousand rounds I am considering going the Lilja route. Thanks for the post.
 
thanks for the kind words, all warm and fuzzy that my babblings might help someone out.

after a year+, 1000's of rounds and some creature comfort modifications, still probably the most solid rifle i've got - either center or rim fired.

saving nickels and dimes for the 455 american as a dedicated rifle for silhouette hunting div, now they have the set trigger available for the 455, along with many more stock options as covered in other threads with the Precision Trainer (manners stock), tacticool (boyd's), and a synthetic sporter stock.
 
I haven't read the whole thread, but I would like to say first off, very good review on this rifle which I also happen to own. Second, I also installed a Yo Dave trigger kit in mine, and it works very well.
 
After a little more reading, I didn't see any mention of Wolf Extra only Wolf Target. My 455 showed a consistent improvement when I used Wolf Extra over Wolf Target. For the $2 to $3 difference in price, I'll stick with the Extra for this rifle. Another thing I added was a check pad from Tac Ops. It added a little height to the comb, and is a lot more comfortable on my face. It also keeps my face from sliding on the wood on hot days. The DIP base I added let's me chose from a wide variety of available rings. My scope is an SS which I bought from SWFA, and it may not be big dollars, but it works just fine. It's a fixed 10 power with mill dot reticule. I have it zeroed at 50 yards, and the second dot down is perfect at 100 yards for shooting golf balls.