CZ Firearms is helping the Canadian Liberal Party confiscate firearms from legal owners

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(Canadian Firearms Lawyer, post includes a link to Parliamentry questions specifying the involvement of Colt Canada)

Context: The Canadian Liberal party has banned >2500 firearms in Canada since May 2020 including effectively all semi auto centre fire rifles but also a broad swathe of rimfires, bolt actions and shotguns.

Now it appears they have contract Colt Canada (Owned by CZ Firearms) to destroy an initial batch of 12,000 firearms and likely the follow up 500-600,000 firearms

As Canadian gun owners we need every gun owner worldwide to object as strongly as possible to this.

NB: Colt Canada is practically the only organisation in Canada that can do this work. Convincing them to not do it would vastly increase the complexity and cost of storing, transporting and destroying these firearms. Just exporting them to the USA would easily add 50% to the costs. This further encourages the likelihood of the programmes cancellation as it is currently increasingly unpopular with the public.
 
So much for that Custom Shop SAA I was eyeballing --I'll spend my $3500 elsewhere and let them know why.

ETA: I have written them a sternly worded email and cancelled my deposit. I don't expect either of those two things to do anything on the macro level, but I have a personal choice in who I choose to support and it will not be a company that does not respect liberty and private firearm ownership.

Frankly, for the legacy of a company whose founder "made all men equal", this is appalling and disgusting.
 
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So much for that Custom Shop SAAI was eyeballing --I'll spend my $3500 elsewhere and let them know why.

ETA: I have written them a sternly worded email and cancelled my deposit. I don't expect either of those two things to do anything on the macro level, but I have a personal choice in who I choose to support and it will not be a company that does not respect liberty and private firearm ownership.

Frankly, for the legacy of a company whose founder "made all men equal", this is appalling and disgusting.

Kudo's to you, the Founding Fathers would be proud of you. Cheers
 
I would be surprised if CZ HQ was involved in this. I’ve been there, and those dudes are seriously flippin’ RABID gun studs, right on down to the custodial staff. They make most SH members look like Gun Grabbers.

If true, It has to be whatever office or division that works with NA customers. I would also be surprised if CZ HQ doesn’t intervene immediately and lay a beatdown on anyone complying with the Commies.
 
du.ly noted! I had a colt python and another CZ rimfire on my list to purchase before end of year and now they shove it far up their asses!
I've checked the new Pythons and wouldnt buy it. If I were to buy a 357 it would be a nice older pre hillary hole 686. With a little work the triggers can be made really nice, and theyre $500 less.
 
I would be surprised if CZ HQ was involved in this. I’ve been there, and those dudes are seriously flippin’ RABID gun studs, right on down to the custodial staff. They make most SH members look like Gun Grabbers.

If true, It has to be whatever office or division that works with NA customers. I would also be surprised if CZ HQ doesn’t intervene immediately and lay a beatdown on anyone complying with the Commies.
It could be a corporate decision to keep the Canadian gov at bay, maybe? I always default to the belief that decisions like these are the fault of gov fuckabout before a legit business decision
 
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I've checked the new Pythons and wouldnt buy it. If I were to buy a 357 it would be a nice older pre hillary hole 686. With a little work the triggers can be made really nice, and theyre $500 less.
I have a 627-5 PC that I'm sending off for a lock delete and action job. I'm pretty pumped for it!

Wheel guns are slick.
 
I have a 627-5 PC that I'm sending off for a lock delete and action job. I'm pretty pumped for it!

Wheel guns are slick.
I bought this Anaconda, its pretty nice and the trigger isnt bad but the sights were garbage, replaced them with Wilson combat. . I'm taking it to the Dave Fink at Gunsite to improve the trigger.

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(Canadian Firearms Lawyer, post includes a link to Parliamentry questions specifying the involvement of Colt Canada)

Context: The Canadian Liberal party has banned >2500 firearms in Canada since May 2020 including effectively all semi auto centre fire rifles but also a broad swathe of rimfires, bolt actions and shotguns.

Now it appears they have contract Colt Canada (Owned by CZ Firearms) to destroy an initial batch of 12,000 firearms and likely the follow up 500-600,000 firearms

As Canadian gun owners we need every gun owner worldwide to object as strongly as possible to this.

NB: Colt Canada is practically the only organisation in Canada that can do this work. Convincing them to not do it would vastly increase the complexity and cost of storing, transporting and destroying these firearms. Just exporting them to the USA would easily add 50% to the costs. This further encourages the likelihood of the programmes cancellation as it is currently increasingly unpopular with the public.

This encapsulates the life of a Canadian firearms owner.
 
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Or you could just say no and not turn your guns in.

That would "increase the complexity" of the program a bit too.
All the online “quiet” folks will do exactly that. Thing is, if at any point after the date (Oct ‘25 right now) a person is caught with any banned firearm, the full weight of the national government and their enforcers, the RCMP, will fall on otherwise law abiding citizens. Members, imagine for moment you now have a criminal conviction for prohibited firearms and any other charge they and their government prosecutors can think of. Lose your job, maybe all your “friends” from church or the gym? Do you use all your resources to legally fight it, knowing the fix is in before it started? Wife leaves to try and support the kids? You take a job at 1/2 your former pay because you can’t pass a criminal record check? No credit either. Halfway house or mold infested basement apartment owned by a distant slum lord relative? This is the everyday decision making matrix we live here in Kanucastan. Covid was a test case for proof of concept. They won. We lost. Chesty advocated charging the entrenched enemy. Glorious and dead.. Fuck what a shit show we live in.
 
All the online “quiet” folks will do exactly that. Thing is, if at any point after the date (Oct ‘25 right now) a person is caught with any banned firearm, the full weight of the national government and their enforcers, the RCMP, will fall on otherwise law abiding citizens. Members, imagine for moment you now have a criminal conviction for prohibited firearms and any other charge they and their government prosecutors can think of. Lose your job, maybe all your “friends” from church or the gym? Do you use all your resources to legally fight it, knowing the fix is in before it started? Wife leaves to try and support the kids? You take a job at 1/2 your former pay because you can’t pass a criminal record check? No credit either. Halfway house or mold infested basement apartment owned by a distant slum lord relative? This is the everyday decision making matrix we live here in Kanucastan. Covid was a test case for proof of concept. They won. We lost. Chesty advocated charging the entrenched enemy. Glorious and dead.. Fuck what a shit show we live in.
This is pretty much the situation Illinois gun owners, who either didn't register their banned items, or who acquired them during the injunction week and cannot register them, are in.

Edit: well maybe not the national government, but certainly State and local.
 
Eff Colt-CZ Group for doing the work of Nazis, aka Democrats, Progressives, Leftists, Marxists, Socialists, Fascists, Communists, Maoists, Leninists, Globalists.

So much for me buying that FDE & Black CZ p10c today at SS.

We should never forget the companies that have aided the gun grabbers, except when the company changes ownership, for instance S&W is under totally different ownership since they conspired with Clinton; Bill Ruger is deceased and his sons are much different about ARs and semi-autos, just look at their product line.

I'll never forget Springfield Armory's and Rock River Arms' intentional actions with the Illinois Gun Dealer Licensing Act that put many mom & pop gun shops out of business.

Every single purchase we make as Americans has a tiny effect on our existences and freedoms. Eff Colt-CZ, SA, RRA, the Dems and their Chicom comrades.
 
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OTH the so called Hitlery hole on Smiths never really bothered me but yeah its nice without it though. I betting not many have 45 colt mountain gun which got the Hitlery hole but its my favorite with just a slight advantage over the 😍rare 3” 625. 😎😀
I had one, not the Mt. gun, but a Model of 1988 625 in 45ACP. I loved it and the trigger was the best I've shot (must have had some work). I finally sold it because I hated messing with the moon clips. A real PITA.
 
I had one, not the Mt. gun, but a Model of 1988 625 in 45ACP. I loved it and the trigger was the best I've shot (must have had some work). I finally sold it because I hated messing with the moon clips. A real PITA.
With the right gear they are fast to put rounds in the moon clips. I could not get rid of the ones I have now. Being left handed and am stupid fast with reloads.
 
Or you could just say no and not turn your guns in.

That would "increase the complexity" of the program a bit too.
There are plenty of us who aren't going to turn anything in, but many of the rifles they banned were registered as restricted firearms here. And they're trying to get gun owners to tell them what we have that isn't registered, in the hopes that we will get some sort of compensation once the government takes them. Just another reminder that registration always leads to confiscation.
Kristian
 
All the online “quiet” folks will do exactly that. Thing is, if at any point after the date (Oct ‘25 right now) a person is caught with any banned firearm, the full weight of the national government and their enforcers, the RCMP, will fall on otherwise law abiding citizens. Members, imagine for moment you now have a criminal conviction for prohibited firearms and any other charge they and their government prosecutors can think of. Lose your job, maybe all your “friends” from church or the gym? Do you use all your resources to legally fight it, knowing the fix is in before it started? Wife leaves to try and support the kids? You take a job at 1/2 your former pay because you can’t pass a criminal record check? No credit either. Halfway house or mold infested basement apartment owned by a distant slum lord relative? This is the everyday decision making matrix we live here in Kanucastan. Covid was a test case for proof of concept. They won. We lost. Chesty advocated charging the entrenched enemy. Glorious and dead.. Fuck what a shit show we live in.
And the Toronto police at least have demonstrated that they're not afraid to just kill a gun owner that they're raiding. Roger Kotanko was a well respected gunsmith, who was shot in his shop within seconds of the first officer entering with a search warrant. They could have easily arrested him outside of his home workshop, where he wouldn't have been potentially working on a customer firearm, but they waited until he was in the shop with a customer, and handling a pistol. Many people think that was a deliberate move to justify killing him.
Kristian
 
And the Toronto police at least have demonstrated that they're not afraid to just kill a gun owner that they're raiding. Roger Kotanko was a well respected gunsmith, who was shot in his shop within seconds of the first officer entering with a search warrant. They could have easily arrested him outside of his home workshop, where he wouldn't have been potentially working on a customer firearm, but they waited until he was in the shop with a customer, and handling a pistol. Many people think that was a deliberate move to justify killing him.
Kristian
It seemed like a very deliberate murder to me too.
 
Colt Canada is just contracted scraper ,has nothing to do with government policies .

In Canada government buy back is being conducted trough firearms dealers ,so you could claim they all are in on it. While Colt US&Canada might be a bunch of cocksuckers that managed to run their business into the ground once the music stopped on their guns for bribes business model to US military . Just remember price of M4 to US military halved once FN got the job and Colt went bust not long after. CZ are furthest you could get from gun grabing commies. So this flack is quite undeserved.

Government is buying these firearms from businesses and these are buying them from general public. Colt-CZ is only the final destination where these end up in smelter since goverment discovered these so called assault firearms are of no interest to Ukraine as they are unsuitable

Canada has dropped plans to supply banned guns collected in its national buyback program to Ukraine after officials in Kyiv showed little interest, and most of the firearms turned out to be unsuitable for combat.
*few guns Ukraine will be taking i would bet money on will end up as rifles for some Ukrainians officials private collection not as service weapons ,as you can be certain there are some gems among the confiscated guns.




End of the day any country that still bows to the British Royal family is going to take your guns away, will jail you for wrong speak ,debank you and will also be the first ones to stuff you into a digital gulag.
 
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Colt Canada is just contracted scraper ,has nothing to do with government policies .

In Canada government buy back is being conducted trough firearms dealers ,so you could claim they all are in on it. While Colt US&Canada might be a bunch of cocksuckers that managed to run their business into the ground once the music stopped on their guns for bribes business model to US military . Just remember price of M4 to US military halved once FN got the job and Colt went bust not long after. CZ are furthest you could get from gun grabing commies. So this flack is quite undeserved.

Government is buying these firearms from businesses and these are buying them from general public. Colt-CZ is only the final destination where these end up in smelter since goverment discovered these so called assault firearms are of no interest to Ukraine as they are unsuitable

Canada has dropped plans to supply banned guns collected in its national buyback program to Ukraine after officials in Kyiv showed little interest, and most of the firearms turned out to be unsuitable for combat.



End of the day any country that still bows to the British Royal family is going to take your guns away, will jail you for wrong speak and will also be the first ones to get you into a digital gulag.


UKstan = europes first Islamic Kalifate
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There goes their arguments on "weapons of war"
 
Colt Canada is just contracted scraper ,has nothing to do with government policies .

In Canada government buy back is being conducted trough firearms dealers ,so you could claim they all are in on it. While Colt US&Canada might be a bunch of cocksuckers that managed to run their business into the ground once the music stopped on their guns for bribes business model to US military . Just remember price of M4 to US military halved once FN got the job and Colt went bust not long after. CZ are furthest you could get from gun grabing commies. So this flack is quite undeserved.

Government is buying these firearms from businesses and these are buying them from general public. Colt-CZ is only the final destination where these end up in smelter since goverment discovered these so called assault firearms are of no interest to Ukraine as they are unsuitable

Canada has dropped plans to supply banned guns collected in its national buyback program to Ukraine after officials in Kyiv showed little interest, and most of the firearms turned out to be unsuitable for combat.
*few guns Ukraine will be taking i would bet money on will end up as rifles for some Ukrainians officials private collection not as service weapons ,as you can be certain there are some gems among the confiscated guns.




End of the day any country that still bows to the British Royal family is going to take your guns away, will jail you for wrong speak ,debank you and will also be the first ones to stuff you into a digital gulag.
"is just".....

right up there with "just following orders...."

ANYONE who's aiding and abetting this process is supporting the opposite of FREEDOM.

Simple as that. Do not pass 'Go', and do not collect 200 dollars.
 
And the Toronto police at least have demonstrated that they're not afraid to just kill a gun owner that they're raiding. Roger Kotanko was a well respected gunsmith, who was shot in his shop within seconds of the first officer entering with a search warrant. They could have easily arrested him outside of his home workshop, where he wouldn't have been potentially working on a customer firearm, but they waited until he was in the shop with a customer, and handling a pistol. Many people think that was a deliberate move to justify killing him.
Kristian
If that’s true then it sounds like some resistance should be in order. That’s crazy, granted it’s happened here as well and yet nobody has responded. Yep, might as well just hand them in. That’s the exact kind of crap that should be fought against, everyone that took part in it. I’d say that’s a clear and easy way you know it’s time. If they are willing to set you up and take you out in such a manner then it should be crystal clear that there will be no fighting or winning in legal channels. This is where I also think police should police their own.
 
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All the online “quiet” folks will do exactly that. Thing is, if at any point after the date (Oct ‘25 right now) a person is caught with any banned firearm, the full weight of the national government and their enforcers, the RCMP, will fall on otherwise law abiding citizens. Members, imagine for moment you now have a criminal conviction for prohibited firearms and any other charge they and their government prosecutors can think of. Lose your job, maybe all your “friends” from church or the gym? Do you use all your resources to legally fight it, knowing the fix is in before it started? Wife leaves to try and support the kids? You take a job at 1/2 your former pay because you can’t pass a criminal record check? No credit either. Halfway house or mold infested basement apartment owned by a distant slum lord relative? This is the everyday decision making matrix we live here in Kanucastan. Covid was a test case for proof of concept. They won. We lost. Chesty advocated charging the entrenched enemy. Glorious and dead.. Fuck what a shit show we live in.
Get better friends and a better preacher for church.

Look at England getting raped. Jailed for thought crimes.
 
Get better friends and a better preacher for church.

Look at England getting raped. Jailed for thought crimes.
It’s easy to talk big online. The young and the very old got nothing to lose. I got fired for not taking the covid shots; cost a lot but didn’t get a criminal conviction so work eventually picked up. The majority took a knee. Also, remember Joe Biden? What happened there? SFA. Even with the auto pen pardoning pedos and those mass murdering for pharma profits. Same as the Epstein stuff. Nothing burger. Israel controls the US congress. Nothing changing there either. Anyone aware does not not talk much shit online about breaking the law.
 
Colt Canada is just contracted scraper ,has nothing to do with government policies .

In Canada government buy back is being conducted trough firearms dealers ,so you could claim they all are in on it. While Colt US&Canada might be a bunch of cocksuckers that managed to run their business into the ground once the music stopped on their guns for bribes business model to US military . Just remember price of M4 to US military halved once FN got the job and Colt went bust not long after. CZ are furthest you could get from gun grabing commies. So this flack is quite undeserved.

Government is buying these firearms from businesses and these are buying them from general public. Colt-CZ is only the final destination where these end up in smelter since goverment discovered these so called assault firearms are of no interest to Ukraine as they are unsuitable

Canada has dropped plans to supply banned guns collected in its national buyback program to Ukraine after officials in Kyiv showed little interest, and most of the firearms turned out to be unsuitable for combat.
*few guns Ukraine will be taking i would bet money on will end up as rifles for some Ukrainians officials private collection not as service weapons ,as you can be certain there are some gems among the confiscated guns.




End of the day any country that still bows to the British Royal family is going to take your guns away, will jail you for wrong speak ,debank you and will also be the first ones to stuff you into a digital gulag.
I'm not sure they actually have a plan for how they're going to confiscate privately owned guns yet. The only ones they've taken so far were ones that gun dealers had in stock. I can't really see too many retailers being willing to help the government on this one either.
Kristian
 
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I'm not sure they actually have a plan for how they're going to confiscate privately owned guns yet. The only ones they've taken so far were ones that gun dealers had in stock. I can't really see too many retailers being willing to help the government on this one either.
Kristian

I've lived in a few provinces, and a number of towns/cities in each. I've had interactions with a fair number of officers, both 'local police' as well as district RCMP. I can honestly say, there are quite a number of good individuals in Western Canada.

Unfortunately, I can also say that there are more than a few whom aren't. I'm sure that's the story where you are, too.
 
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I've lived in a few provinces, and a number of towns/cities in each. I've had interactions with a fair number of officers, both 'local police' as well as district RCMP. I can honestly say, there are quite a number of good individuals in Western Canada.

Unfortunately, I can also say that there are more than a few whom aren't. I'm sure that's the story where you are, too.
Ask yourself, How many of those "good ones" took the clot shots over losing their jobs? Now ask yourself, Will they lose their job or follow orders to confiscate?
 
CZ bought colt in 2021. Was colt even really ran by Americans by that time? I dont care to know.
None of this surprises me though.
I have ZERO colts and 1 CZ.

All though the CZ is a 512 semi .22mag. It is the only 22mag semi ive ever had that never jams. It’s a cool rifle but yeah id never buy anything from them ever again.
 
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I've lived in a few provinces, and a number of towns/cities in each. I've had interactions with a fair number of officers, both 'local police' as well as district RCMP. I can honestly say, there are quite a number of good individuals in Western Canada.

Unfortunately, I can also say that there are more than a few whom aren't. I'm sure that's the story where you are, too.
I haven't lived too many different places, and I've been in BC all my life. And I've generally avoided dealing with cops for most of it too. I've had a couple RCMP neighbours that seem like good people, but they also seemed like they don't really ever turn off the police part of themselves. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to have them around, but I don't trust them to not be fishing for something, even though I'm not doing anything wrong. Upper management seems to be the biggest problem though, and for the RCMP, that's a political appointment. Based on that, the organization as a whole will likely be loyal to the government, as we saw with the trucker protests in Ottawa, and are now seeing with politically acceptable Palestine protestors being given free reign to do whatever they want. There might be some officers willing to stand up for what most of us believe is right, but there are far more who will do whatever they are told.
Kristian