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Damn, that's one lucky cop!

Why she didn't insist he put his hands on the steering wheel or stop the very obvious grab for something between his feet I'll never know. Before she stepped away to move to the drivers side of the vehicle he was already reading for something by his feet. Maybe she wanted to gun fight?

That being said, body cameras are making a lot of the victim stories disappear from the media, no left wing media types are going to want poor Pedro the armed illegal immigrant criminal trying to kill a policeman to be seen in a bad light. He took home 2nd place in a gun fight,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,congrats to the officer for taking out the trash and staying calm while she worked.
 
I would say her camera was looking where she was not. Obvious as hell that he reached for something under the seat, before she even walked around the car.
And I would ask why did she walk around the back, where she looses sight of dirt bag and his hands.
If the answer is "to not get run over" I would say I can back over you just as fast as going forward.
Man she is lucky. Hope dirt bag suffered
 
I would say her camera was looking where she was not. Obvious as hell that he reached for something under the seat, before she even walked around the car.
And I would ask why did she walk around the back, where she looses sight of dirt bag and his hands.
If the answer is "to not get run over" I would say I can back over you just as fast as going forward.
Man she is lucky. Hope dirt bag suffered

She is a harder target from behind than a deer in the headlights.
 
She did a great job staying calm, I don’t know why I always notice and question it but why does every cop shooting invlove the cop emptying there mag? I never understand this. I realize it’s probably better it they can’t talk but does it really take 15 or 16 shots to stop them?

Like I said, she did an awesome job and if he’s dead I am in full support of that as well.
 
I never understand this. I realize it’s probably better it they can’t talk but does it really take 15 or 16 shots to stop them?

I didnt watch this video, yet, but in most shootings by the time they pull the trigger to when they are done its like 1.5-2 seconds. This is based on reaction times and how your brain functions. I believe it was Massad Ayoub who said a trained shooter can shoot like 3-5 rounds a second, so its not out of the ordinary for somebody in a shooting to shoot between 6 and 10 rounds. The article I read was talking about a guy who was a master class IPSC or IDPA shooter who shot a guy who was assaulting him and the DA was going after him because "he shot the guy in the back" and Massad Ayoub was the expert witness and explained reaction times and what not. In this case by the time the guy realized the other guy had turned he had already shot him in the back like 4 times and stopped shooting.
 
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Some people are very good at accurately reading and analyzing the subtle signs given off by someone when they are up to no good. Reality based defensive training most definitely helps you acquire this important survival skill, but some people just happen to be naturally more wary than others. For them it could have been honed over time from a history of playing fine-motor skills sports such as tennis or fencing. Whatever it may be, it was this constant awareness and ability to act upon instinct without "freezing" that saved this cop. Definitely a good shoot.

This also goes to show that body cameras should be mandatory for police departments to equip their personnel with. As we can see from this video, the body cam footage instantly proved that the officer was in the right, and was clearly justified in using lethal force against that SOB. Body cameras save a lot of resources from being spent in time consuming investigations, forensics, and cross examination of witness testimonies. Instead, these resources can be used to help police departments focus on solving violent crimes and catching shitbags who try to flee after committing violent acts.
 
She did a great job staying calm, I don’t know why I always notice and question it but why does every cop shooting invlove the cop emptying there mag? I never understand this. I realize it’s probably better it they can’t talk but does it really take 15 or 16 shots to stop them?

Like I said, she did an awesome job and if he’s dead I am in full support of that as well.


im glad she emptied her mag, first thing i said as video ended was, reload.
 
Traffic stops, especially fugitive / license plate match stops, are where officers tend to be at their most vulnerable...Because there is simply no way to tell if the person has pulled over and stopped in compliance, or they have another agenda already thought out.

In the last 20 years, a huge number of honest and good officers, respected family men and community figures, have been killed by dirtbags while carrying out traffic stops.
 
She got complacent because he looked like a drunk illegal.. she was probably thinking about all the paperwork involved if she has to arrest a illegal. I’m gonna step out on a limb though and say she is not gonna make that mistake again.
And Im pretty sure the suspect won't make that mistake again either, only for the fact she did not eat one there. Will have to give her credit for staying calm under fire. Her guardian angle came to her threw a bright light and whispered into her ear and said I got you !
 
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Something that never gets pointed out, and is dramatically shown in this vid. You see how easy a right handed shooter(which most are) can get the gun up and shot off when you’re standing in the V of the driver door? Now imagine him trying that if she’d been on the passenger side, and how far he has to swing to point at her. The passenger headrests would also prevent him from shooting effectively at anything to the rear of the B-Pillar. Even if a bad guy is a lefty, it’s not going to be a contact shot like it is with a righty from the driver side. Wasn’t the view much better when she was on the passenger side? I think so! Not to mention it’s way easier to watch traffic, and you have a physical barrier between traffic or the bad guy if things go badly in either direction. As a department, we always do passenger side approaches. Yes sometimes you need to go to the driver side, but only if the guy is so hammered he’s going to fall into traffic, or you suspect he might footbail. On night stops, you can almost always make it to the passenger door and gaze in as the driver is looking out the left side mirror waiting for you to show up at the driver door. I end up having to knock on the passenger window to get their attention.

Glad this ended well.
 
Something that never gets pointed out, and is dramatically shown in this vid. You see how easy a right handed shooter(which most are) can get the gun up and shot off when you’re standing in the V of the driver door? Now imagine him trying that if she’d been on the passenger side, and how far he has to swing to point at her. The passenger headrests would also prevent him from shooting effectively at anything to the rear of the B-Pillar. Even if a bad guy is a lefty, it’s not going to be a contact shot like it is with a righty from the driver side. Wasn’t the view much better when she was on the passenger side? I think so! Not to mention it’s way easier to watch traffic, and you have a physical barrier between traffic or the bad guy if things go badly in either direction. As a department, we always do passenger side approaches. Yes sometimes you need to go to the driver side, but only if the guy is so hammered he’s going to fall into traffic, or you suspect he might footbail. On night stops, you can almost always make it to the passenger door and gaze in as the driver is looking out the left side mirror waiting for you to show up at the driver door. I end up having to knock on the passenger window to get their attention.

Glad this ended well.


Concur. Here in California, and also in Wyoming, I've had encounters with police via a traffic stop. Both times they approached the vehicle on the passenger side and stayed on that side when discussing the stop (and no, I didn't get a ticket either time). Seems prudent to me to always stand on the passenger side when ever possible.
 
She definitely could have been more on the ball with his reaching. Imo even before that he was moving his hands way too much and probably testing her body language to see how close to that line he could get before going for it.

That said, great response after the fact by the officer. Good kill, glad she's safe.
 
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she made a lot of mistakes....but once she got on the trigger, she wasnt fucking around no more. i hope she’s o.k..

this is the reason i ain’t doing that crap no more...i have no patience for that shit. getting twitchy, not listening, acting shady...that’ll get you drawn down on quick..and if i draw down, my guns all have hair triggers. i do NOT have the right mindset to be a police officer in today’s world.

God bless those of you still doing this largely thankless job.
 
She did a great job staying calm, I don’t know why I always notice and question it but why does every cop shooting invlove the cop emptying there mag? I never understand this. I realize it’s probably better it they can’t talk but does it really take 15 or 16 shots to stop them? The sheriff that shot that Muslim on another thread used 2 bullets.. I don’t think she had a site picture on him when she opened fire. I think she just unloaded were he should be.

Like I said, she did an awesome job and if he’s dead I am in full support of that as well.
 
ICE lodged four different detainers for Hernandez Morales relating to battery of a peace officer, suspicion of driving while intoxicated, selling liquor to a minor and probation violations. The detainers, according to ICE, were sent to Napa County Jail in 2014, 2015 and 2016, and anther was issued to Sonoma County Jail in 2016.

Staff honored none of the detainers, allowing Hernandez Morales to leave the county jails and remain in the U.S.


No shit...
 
She did good... including firing a full mag after using the car as cover.

Well done, deputy.

Now, let’s chat about the Sierra bravos who kept this mook on the street and protected him from deportation and jail. The California politicians who keep killing out citizens... through the use of illegals.

They need to be prosecuted by federal DOJ for obstructing.

On the bright side... this ended righteously!

Sirhr
 
She did good... including firing a full mag after using the car as cover.

Well done, deputy.

Now, let’s chat about the Sierra bravos who kept this mook on the street and protected him from deportation and jail. The California politicians who keep killing out citizens... through the use of illegals.

They need to be prosecuted by federal DOJ for obstructing.

On the bright side... this ended righteously!

Sirhr

That's what I'm getting at.

If some folks thought it the proper time to riot and fuck shit up when Mike Brown got taken out, I definitely think THIS is a time when some folks ought to, at the very least, write their damn congressmen...

Fuckin' hell....
 
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This thread won't be complete until some idiot asks, "Couldn't she have tased him?"

Won't get that from me and everyone knows how I feel about LE in general, but that guy fired the first shot and I don't care if it's a cop or someone like me, you fire a round at my head and all bets are off and you were a threat to my life and you will continue to be one unless are no longer moving either alive or dead.
 
She handled herself well. Monday mornings quarterbacking, she should’ve seen the hand drop and should’ve handled business before calling it on the radio. Not necessarily a bad thing but I’d rather focus on the threat then call it in than die with a radio in my hand. Again, she did very well in a crappy situation.
 
I still cant get over how much difference a body cam can make. All Leo’s should be required to wear one. Good kill.

No shit, for the good and the bad.

She handled herself well. Monday mornings quarterbacking, she should’ve seen the hand drop and should’ve handled business before calling it on the radio. Not necessarily a bad thing but I’d rather focus on the threat then call it in than die with a radio in my hand. Again, she did very well in a crappy situation.

Not possible to tell if she was looking in the same direction as the camera when he did that. He was looking at her with the shifty eyes so that's what I gather. Not sure I'd taken eyes off of him.
 
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