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Danish "Reedumacation" Camps ... It's For the Children!

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I know both systems. You obviously only know socialism. The crazy thing is that you seem to understand what is killing it. On some level you acknowledge what the problem is. You would think that you would have understood the problem when the first wave of Turks came, but apparently you learned nothing.

I don't buy your premise about "the world is going under" and "socialism is being killed"! The dooms day mentally don't really work here.

Forcing children into state indoctrination/education to try and turn them Danish is not some normal thing.

Going to daycare 30 hours a week in Denmark is normal. ALL children do it, because we don't have "stay at home moms". Also, they are not forced. They can chose not do it and get a job.

Also, it's not indoctrination, it's inclusion. The reason behind it is that we have too many kids that are born in Denmark and still cant speak, read or write danish. That's why we have this new law.
 
The issue is that we have some areas that are parallel societies. They speak their own language, don't work, and live by their own rules, sort of. We can't accept it.

So we tell the parents to either send their kids to daycare so they can learn to speak danish and learn about danish culture or they can denie and miss out on the money.
 
I don't buy your premise about "the world is going under" and "socialism is being killed"! The dooms day mentally don't really work here.



Going to daycare 30 hours a week in Denmark is normal. ALL children do it, because we don't have "stay at home moms". Also, they are not forced. They can chose not do it and get a job.

Also, it's not indoctrination, it's inclusion. The reason behind it is that we have too many kids that are born in Denmark and still cant speak, read or write danish. That's why we have this new law.
That whole post is hilarious, leftist double-speak. The whole reason you're in this pickle is you can't call a spade a spade.

Of course it's inclusion! If it wasn't you wouldn't be reeducating anyone! You would just deport them or shoot them, which is ultimately where you are going to end up when your reeducation fails if you refuse to change course.

I get that Danish socialism has never failed, so you think you're different from every other socialist paradise, but you are taking the exact same course of action they all do, and they all end the same way unless there is drastic change.

If you want to preserve a system designed for people who are all the same you need to remove all those who are different. You're not going to force them to be the same or teach them to be the same, because they don't have the same history or the same cultural basis. It has never worked in the past, and it won't work in Denmark.
 
The issue is that we have some areas that are parallel societies. They speak their own language, don't work, and live by their own rules, sort of. We can't accept it.

So we tell the parents to either send their kids to daycare so they can learn to speak danish and learn about danish culture or they can denie and miss out on the money.

"The issue is that we have some areas that are parallel societies. They speak their own language, don't work, and live by their own rules, sort of. We can't accept it".

To my way of thinking, your statement above completely sums up the fallacy of your argument. In fact, there are enough contradictions in your posts that I'm not certain of the point you are actually trying to make.
 
Danish heritage Americans is a thing. American heritage Danish is not. There's a reason for that.

One has a long history extending to today of an oppressive monarchy based government, the other has freedom. We didn't have to reeducate the Danish immigrants who came here, just being in America with the opportunity to succeed without having half their pay seized by the government was enough for them to want to do it on their own, same as the millions of other immigrants who come here. A generation is typically all it takes and we don't have to shove an alternative religion down their throats, force them into ghettos, or strip them from their parents arms at the age of one to do it.
 
It appears the US government has failed educating the children.

Dutch = Holland = Netherlands
Danish = Denmark

Netherlands -> Where it's legal to smoke marijuana at "coffe shops"
Denmark -> Where it's accepted to buy and smoke weed at Christiania
There is only one country that matters.
We should try and save AUS but I'm afraid it is lost with all the others.
 
Maybe after a few more of your women and children are raped/killed, you Europeans can get back to your old ways and take care of things. I still have faith in you guys. Just got to get back to your roots.
 
Who cares. United States way of living is obviously better then the socialist goody goody danish way.

That's what the statistics show. Oh wait. They don't. That's wierd.
 
And we're kinda tired of paying for the immigration caused by instability in the middle east, caused by the united states battle against communism, but hey, that's the world we live in.
 
And we're kinda tired of paying for the immigration caused by instability in the middle east, caused by the united states battle against communism, but hey, that's the world we live in.

Well you do have a bit of a point about the recent mass waves of low grade immigrants flooding into Europe partially being the fault of the recent stupid middle east policies of America, specifically the excrement show that is Syria and ISIS.

But.... it was already going that way, just slower and less public before the latest American foreign policy "adventures".

And... it's not like refugees from Syria are flooding into Israel... or Saudi Arabia.... or any of the wealthy Arab oil states... or Russia...or China.. or Asia.. or most of Eastern Europe, so it's not like you couldn't just say: Stay the hell out.
 
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....not to mention Reagan, who joined forces with the Taliban. The current situation falls back on him, in my opinion.

I would say that the american adventure helping the Afghans defeat the Soviet union didn't cause widespread refugees that went much farther than the neighboring countries. Then for the most part the Afghans stuck to their favourite pass time of killing each other, till the Saudi backed terrorists (Osama and others), took up residence there and started using that as a base of operations over a decade later.

You could argue that the mess that Afghanistan later became was in part caused by the USA picking up sticks and saying bye, not bothering to help build the country, but that would be mostly on Clinton's watch. (And there is the point that just because we help the enemy of our enemy destroy our enemy, that doesn't mean we owe the enemy of our enemy anything once our interest is gone).
 
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....not to mention Reagan, who joined forces with the Taliban. The current situation falls back on him, in my opinion.

tedium
noun te·di·um \ ˈtē-dē-əm \

Aren't you the same guy that was around here about 4 to 6 weeks ago, stirring up (socialist) shit ? The guy that doesn't work and is proud enough of it that you got your picture in the newspaper ? There was an article about you and how others in Denmark were resentful of your unwillingness to work and contribute anything to society ?

edit: went back and checked......Yep, same guy, same waste of time. One would think that if you're going to be a blood sucker, you'd at least have the common sense to keep quiet about it.
 
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Citation for these stats please. You cannot deny the surge in rapes and attacks that have taken place in Germany and Sweden.

In Germany, the "official" rate is vastly smaller than the "real rate on the street", due to intense pressure at all levels including from other women to not appear racist by refusing to report and refusing to take reports or refusing to record reporting of rapes done by our "honoured Muslim new immigrants".
 
tedium
noun te·di·um \ ˈtē-dē-əm \

Aren't you the same guy that was around here about 4 to 6 weeks ago, stirring up (socialist) shit ? The guy that doesn't work and is proud enough of it that you got your picture in the newspaper ? There was an article about you and how others in Denmark were resentful of your unwillingness to work and contribute anything to society ?

You still believe a link some other dude posted? But no, I'm not "Lazy Robert".
 
You still believe a link some other dude posted? But no, I'm not "Lazy Robert".

You and he have too much in common for me to think otherwise. But, no matter.

I think I even asked you this question last time around and you never answered, so here it is again;

Are you actually trying to make some kind of a point or actually accomplish something......anything ?

I know that for good little liberals (in your case, "socialist") the temptation to find and troll a Board with "Good Ole Red Blooded 'Muricans" is just too much to pass up. Here's the thing; Very few of us here give a shit what you and people like you think, period.

It's really tragic to see a nice country like Denmark go down the shitter because of progressive/liberal/socialist nitwits and their suicidal policies. On the one hand, you seem to ascribe to most of those policies, but now you're crying because of the obvious, predictable and inevitible fallout of those same policies.
 
Why is sharing a different view then yours trolling?

I'm the only one backing up my statements with facts. And the only one no calling names. If anyone is a troll, it's you. Learn to deal with the fact that not everyone has the same point of view as you. Try it. It's good for your mental health.

The only "arguments" I see are "You're going to get raped and die, socialist scum" or "Dutch socialism is all Danish people like!"
 
Where have i linked to rape in germany or sweden?

You haven't but those are two prime examples of what happens when you encourage immigration in pursuit of some globalist ideals. It's nonsense. My father immigrated from Italy to the US, we are proud to be Americans. To encourage or just allow people into your country who do not want to integrate is stupid. You already crossed that bridge and now you are having to compel these people to be Danes. Good luck to you.
 
....Sweden is fucked. If you wanna go into Dooms Day mode, Sweden is the the country to talk about. Their politicians still deny they have a problem o_O

See, now we can find common ground that we can all agree on, we just need to stop debating the pros and cons of Denmark and get to discussing how Sweden is going downhill fast and how stupid, blind and complicit the stupid Swedish are being in their own destruction.

We could take up discussing how on earth they have more grenade attacks in Malmö alone in just one year, than in the whole of the USA in a decade.
 
They are not FORCED to take their kids to daycare but if they don't they will lose their welfare check.

Free money comes with obligations. If you don't oblige you don't get paid.

Seems quite fair.

JC! There you go with "free money" again.

Does money grow on tulips in Denmark?

Some people never learn.
 
And we're kinda tired of paying for the immigration caused by instability in the middle east, caused by the united states battle against communism, but hey, that's the world we live in.
Lobby your government to leave NATO. Like as of yesterday. We don't need half assed contributing "members" who only take and fail to meet the minimum standards. We're tired of subsidizing your protection.
 
Maybe after a few more of your women and children are raped/killed, you Europeans can get back to your old ways and take care of things. I still have faith in you guys. Just got to get back to your roots.

Rape per 100.000

Denmark 6
United States 29

I still have faith in you guys. Just got to get back to your roots.

You haven't but those are two prime examples of what happens when you encourage immigration in pursuit of some globalist ideals. It's nonsense. My father immigrated from Italy to the US, we are proud to be Americans. To encourage or just allow people into your country who do not want to integrate is stupid. You already crossed that bridge and now you are having to compel these people to be Danes. Good luck to you.

My comparison had nothing to do with Germany or Sweden because it didn't originate from a discussion about rape in europe.
 
....not to mention Reagan, who joined forces with the Taliban. The current situation falls back on him, in my opinion.
The Taliban didn't exist until two US presidents later (1994) and five years following the withdrawal of Soviet forces and the 1989 conclusion of Operation Cyclone, Clinton was in office and turned a blind eye to Afghanistan's civil war as much as he did to Rawanda, allowing the power vacuum for the Taliban's rise to control of the country in 1996. Stating Reagan supported the Taliban makes as much sense as stating Denmark's King Christian X supported the Nazis and then Gefreiter Hitler because they continued heavy trade with Germany in WWI despite being dubiously neutral in the war. It's a connection that lacks any continuity due to years of separation.

The US (as well as the UK, Saudi, and China) funded Paki ISI trained mujhadeen fighters, Hekmatyr's Hizb-e-Islami/HIG being one of many organizations and who Mullah Omar (Founder of the Taliban) fought for, but Omar was not a significant leader in that force. He was just a soldier who became a theological leader during the civil war years. It was Omar's ability to dupe the young Pashtun Afghans via his madrassas that built his Taliban force, but they did not exist prior to 1994 in any shape or form. Mujhadeen ≠ Taliban. They are two totally different groups and the Muj fractured back into their tribal groups following their victory over the Communists, and is part of why we cut their funding as well as ISI/Pakis pursuing nuclear arms.

Our primary backing and support given throughout the Soviet occupation was to Ahmad Shah Masood, a moderate ethnic Tajik from Panjir who could not compete with the majority Pashtuns for overall control following the Soviet withdrawal, yet he went on to fight the other groups from 92-96 and Taliban throughout their control years (96-01) without so much as a glance from Clinton aside from his botched Tomahawk strikes in retaliation for the '98 embassy bombings which only targeted an al Qaeda camp in Khost. As for the HIG, they were also ousted by the Taliban in '96, much because Hekmatyr was a huge drug runner to fund his operations and power thirst, and fought them up to our invasion but never again received support from the US.

Masood was assassinated by the Taliban supported Al Qaeda two days shy of the 9/11 attacks, and we ousted the Taliban in about six weeks flat with a few thousand troops on the ground and with support of the late Masood's Northern Alliance and Karzai's Southern Alliance. It's a shame Masood was killed right before the attacks and invasion, I truly believe Afghanistan today would have turned out vastly different had he been able to take power instead of Karzai.

There's a history lesson for you, courtesy of an American educated by experience working and fighting towards a solution rather than hiding in a socialist hole and bitching about Muslims not knowing who Santa is.
 
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JC! There you go with "free money" again.

Does money grow on tulips in Denmark?

Some people never learn.
Now that's funny.

The Danes are obviously a lot less mentally disturbed than the Svensk, because at least the acknowledge there is a problem. At least they're not in denial that these people are from a very different culture that isn't compatible with their own, and isn't compatible with the full bore socialism they practice. Their solution is a state sponsored reeducation, which is a typical socialist plan. I just think it's funny that this solution is mainstream, and the Danish people are behind it. I wonder how many years it's going to take before it is determined it's a failure? They don't have very long. The population of indigenous Danes is static. The Muslim minority quadruples every generation. In forty years they'll be half Muslim.

You know, the Danes don't have some Social Security Ponzi scheme that's doomed to failure on it's own. They have an actual, national pension fund with real money that is invested (I believe half in Danish companies and half in international stocks) and that grows. Their retirement is real, and not borrowed from their children. I am going to need the popcorn as I watch this real money, that has been built up over generations, siphoned off by the Muslim newcomers who paid in nothing and withdraw everything while squirting out babies like a machinegun and teaching their children at the madrassa and that the Danes owe them everything.

I wonder if the Danes will have the stomach for the end game? Clearly they can't even conceive it right now, and are seeking more happy and kind methods to try and stave off what they have to see coming... My guess is that it will be entirely too late by the time they wake up.

When I look at their immigration problems and then at ours, I have to chuckle. Which one would you rather get invaded by? Around here the Hispanic immigrants bust arse at work, and go to mass on Sunday....
 
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The Taliban didn't exist until two US presidents later (1994) and five years following the withdrawal of Soviet forces and the 1989 conclusion of Operation Cyclone, Clinton was in office and turned a blind eye to Afghanistan's civil war as much as he did to Rawanda, allowing the power vacuum for the Taliban's rise to control of the country in 1996. Stating Reagan supported the Taliban makes as much sense as stating Denmark's King Christian X supported the Nazis and then Gefreiter Hitler because they continued heavy trade with Germany in WWI despite being dubiously neutral in the war. It's a connection that lacks any continuity due to years of separation.

The US (as well as the UK, Saudi, and China) funded Paki ISI trained mujhadeen fighters, Hekmatyr's Hizb-e-Islami/HIG being one of many organizations and who Mullah Omar (Founder of the Taliban) fought for, but Omar was not a significant leader in that force. He was just a soldier who became a theological leader during the civil war years. It was Omar's ability to dupe the young Pashtun Afghans via his madrassas that built his Taliban force, but they did not exist prior to 1994 in any shape or form. Mujhadeen ≠ Taliban. They are two totally different groups and the Muj fractured back into their tribal groups following their victory over the Communists, and is part of why we cut their funding as well as ISI/Pakis pursuing nuclear arms.

Our primary backing and support given throughout the Soviet occupation was to Ahmad Shah Masood, a moderate ethnic Tajik from Panjir who could not compete with the majority Pashtuns for overall control following the Soviet withdrawal, yet he went on to fight the other groups from 92-96 and Taliban throughout their control years (96-01) without so much as a glance from Clinton aside from his botched Tomahawk strikes in retaliation for the '98 embassy bombings which only targeted an al Qaeda camp in Khost. As for the HIG, they were also ousted by the Taliban in '96, much because Hekmatyr was a huge drug runner to fund his operations and power thirst, and fought them up to our invasion but never again received support from the US.

Masood was assassinated by the Taliban supported Al Qaeda two days shy of the 9/11 attacks, and we ousted the Taliban in about six weeks flat with a few thousand troops on the ground and with support of the late Masood's Northern Alliance and Karzai's Southern Alliance. It's a shame Masood was killed right before the attacks and invasion, I truly believe Afghanistan today would have turned out vastly different had he been able to take power instead of Karzai.

There's a history lesson for you, courtesy of an American educated by experience working and fighting towards a solution rather than hiding in a socialist hole and bitching about Muslims not knowing who Santa is.

Awesome.....Thank You. ;)
 
Rape per 100.000

Denmark 6
United States 29

I still have faith in you guys. Just got to get back to your roots.

You do realize the major fallacy in stating this whether real or not, right? Per 100,000 or not, talk to me when your total population reaches over 350,000,000. Not even remotely on the same playing field with a total population of 6,000,000 people as of 2016. My guess is that per 100,000 number would vastly increase as your population grows. In fact, I bet it would explode to a higher number than ours if your population simply grew to 12,000,000 people. Why you ask? Simple. More people in a more condensed area will have a much higher crime rate normally. Your total population for the entire country is the size of one of our major cities. Let’s take away a few major cities from America and I bet that number looks vastly different.
 
I get your point, but if your theory was correct, why does Sweden have more rape per capita then Unite States? They have around 10 million citizens.

You just further illustrated the very point I was making! If your overall population was larger, even at 10mil, my bet is that your rate would be larger than that of the US and that’s still not even a fraction of our population. Crime rates generally always follow population density. The US is 352,000,000 people roughly but they are spread apart over great distances for the most part. If we could lose NYC, Chicago and LA I bet our rate drops to almost nothing overall. I didn’t say the rate would increase proportionally with the population but it almost always increases when population increases. That’s just logical. More people generally equals more crime.

But another answer to your question is that a good many of our population, is armed which may help curtail the rape rate over that of Sweden. Just a thought.
 
Your argument is still invalid. Small countries can easily have a higher rape per capita then large countries. Japan has a 1.1 rape per capita and a population of 127 million.

It has NOTHING to do with the size of the country and EVERYTHING to do with the demographic of the population.