Anyone have experience on how long it usually takes the Sheriff to sign your paperwork? I dropped it off on the 31st and I have to leave town on Monday for a week or so. I was hoping to get it back before I left to go out of town again so I could pop it in the mail to the ATF
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Re: Denton County, TX
Buddy of mine did one last year, and it took them around 2 weeks. They were not in a hurry.
Buddy of mine did one last year, and it took them around 2 weeks. They were not in a hurry.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slippery_Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Buddy of mine did one last year, and it took them around 2 weeks. They were not in a hurry. </div></div>
Thanks, I will check in with them soon. I wanted to give them enough reasonable time before I started calling and it would be nice to pop it in the mail before I head out of town.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slippery_Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Buddy of mine did one last year, and it took them around 2 weeks. They were not in a hurry. </div></div>
Thanks, I will check in with them soon. I wanted to give them enough reasonable time before I started calling and it would be nice to pop it in the mail before I head out of town.
Re: Denton County, TX
I recall the Sheriff being out of town for a period of that. It's a little murky, but I know my chief signs it same day, and he had to wait at least 2 weeks. You might do better.
I recall the Sheriff being out of town for a period of that. It's a little murky, but I know my chief signs it same day, and he had to wait at least 2 weeks. You might do better.
Re: Denton County, TX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KaneK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Revocable Living Trust</div></div>
I decided not to got this route - but thanks for your otherwise useless post.
To use a trust or to go the individual route is nothing more than a ford/chevy argument. My preference was to go the individual route for my own weighted pro's and con's list.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KaneK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Revocable Living Trust</div></div>
I decided not to got this route - but thanks for your otherwise useless post.
To use a trust or to go the individual route is nothing more than a ford/chevy argument. My preference was to go the individual route for my own weighted pro's and con's list.
Re: Denton County, TX
I love going in to the Denton County Jail, walking up to the cage and saying "I'm here to drop off or pick up NFA paperwork", the look goes from your here to see a dirtbag to smiles and what are you getting.
2 weeks for me
I love going in to the Denton County Jail, walking up to the cage and saying "I'm here to drop off or pick up NFA paperwork", the look goes from your here to see a dirtbag to smiles and what are you getting.
2 weeks for me
Re: Denton County, TX
5 minutes in Wichita Falls Texas. Secretary took it in and brought it right out with Sheriff Dukes signature.
5 minutes in Wichita Falls Texas. Secretary took it in and brought it right out with Sheriff Dukes signature.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love going in to the Denton County Jail, walking up to the cage and saying "I'm here to drop off or pick up NFA paperwork", the look goes from your here to see a dirtbag to smiles and what are you getting.
2 weeks for me</div></div>
seems like the consistent answer - thanks guys.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love going in to the Denton County Jail, walking up to the cage and saying "I'm here to drop off or pick up NFA paperwork", the look goes from your here to see a dirtbag to smiles and what are you getting.
2 weeks for me</div></div>
seems like the consistent answer - thanks guys.
Re: Denton County, TX
Nice that you can have someone sign off on it. That being said I'd rather not have to wait two weeks for someone to sign my paperwork.
sooooo What are you getting?
Nice that you can have someone sign off on it. That being said I'd rather not have to wait two weeks for someone to sign my paperwork.
sooooo What are you getting?
Re: Denton County, TX
Sorry to post this here. However, does anyone know about Grayson County? I have two suppressors that I have been putting the paper work off because I am moving from Collin to Grayson.
Sorry to post this here. However, does anyone know about Grayson County? I have two suppressors that I have been putting the paper work off because I am moving from Collin to Grayson.
Re: Denton County, TX
I haven't had anyone sign off in Collin County. I haven't even tried; I heard even God couldn't get anyone to sign in Collin County. I am moving to Grayson County and wondered if one could get it signed there instead of doing a trust.
I haven't had anyone sign off in Collin County. I haven't even tried; I heard even God couldn't get anyone to sign in Collin County. I am moving to Grayson County and wondered if one could get it signed there instead of doing a trust.
Re: Denton County, TX
Must be nice, you can't get a sheriff or police chief near Harris County to sign off.
Must be nice, you can't get a sheriff or police chief near Harris County to sign off.
Re: Denton County, TX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dieselgeek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice that you can have someone sign off on it. That being said I'd rather not have to wait two weeks for someone to sign my paperwork.
sooooo What are you getting? </div></div>
A Shark for my .308
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dieselgeek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice that you can have someone sign off on it. That being said I'd rather not have to wait two weeks for someone to sign my paperwork.
sooooo What are you getting? </div></div>
A Shark for my .308
Re: Denton County, TX
For sure shit out of luck in Collin County. I tried that before the trust. Dead end. Talk to David about the Form 4 when you buy the Shark. He has done all my Suppressor and SBR transfers.
For sure shit out of luck in Collin County. I tried that before the trust. Dead end. Talk to David about the Form 4 when you buy the Shark. He has done all my Suppressor and SBR transfers.
Re: Denton County, TX
It threw me off that you have to go into the jail to drop off the paperwork. I adjusted though, once they warmed up to us.
It threw me off that you have to go into the jail to drop off the paperwork. I adjusted though, once they warmed up to us.
Re: Denton County, TX
Curious... what are the down sides to a trust?
The trust is so easy to complete, the only "downside" I see is that you need to carry a copy of the trust with you along wih the NFA paperwork.
Curious... what are the down sides to a trust?
The trust is so easy to complete, the only "downside" I see is that you need to carry a copy of the trust with you along wih the NFA paperwork.
Re: Denton County, TX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curious... what are the down sides to a trust?
The trust is so easy to complete, the only "downside" I see is that you need to carry a copy of the trust with you along wih the NFA paperwork. </div></div>
The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curious... what are the down sides to a trust?
The trust is so easy to complete, the only "downside" I see is that you need to carry a copy of the trust with you along wih the NFA paperwork. </div></div>
The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle.
Re: Denton County, TX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curious... what are the down sides to a trust?
The trust is so easy to complete, the only "downside" I see is that you need to carry a copy of the trust with you along wih the NFA paperwork. </div></div>
The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
pretty much; i also hedged on if/when the BATF makes changes to the trust route...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curious... what are the down sides to a trust?
The trust is so easy to complete, the only "downside" I see is that you need to carry a copy of the trust with you along wih the NFA paperwork. </div></div>
The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
pretty much; i also hedged on if/when the BATF makes changes to the trust route...
Re: Denton County, TX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
What attorney? The trust forms are easily downloaded and all that is required is signature in front of a Notary. Filing is $15. And if something happens to you the property automatically transfers to those you designated.
As for changes, anything done already would be grandfathered in just like the personally owned items.
With that said, Tarrant County is a pain in the ass and chances are you would pretty much need to go through the trust route anyway.
~ Rico
PS... I'm not downplaying or speaking poorly of your decision(s) in the least, I was really wondering if there was a large difference or additional "perks" of individual ownership that I missed.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
What attorney? The trust forms are easily downloaded and all that is required is signature in front of a Notary. Filing is $15. And if something happens to you the property automatically transfers to those you designated.
As for changes, anything done already would be grandfathered in just like the personally owned items.
With that said, Tarrant County is a pain in the ass and chances are you would pretty much need to go through the trust route anyway.
~ Rico
PS... I'm not downplaying or speaking poorly of your decision(s) in the least, I was really wondering if there was a large difference or additional "perks" of individual ownership that I missed.
Re: Denton County, TX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
What attorney? The trust forms are easily downloaded and all that is required is signature in front of a Notary. Filing is $15. And if something happens to you the property automatically transfers to those you designated.
As for changes, anything done already would be grandfathered in just like the personally owned items.
With that said, Tarrant County is a pain in the ass and chances are you would pretty much need to go through the trust route anyway.
~ Rico
PS... I'm not downplaying or speaking poorly of your decision(s) in the least, I was really wondering if there was a large difference or additional "perks" of individual ownership that I missed.</div></div>
You're correct. There is NO downside to the Trust IMHO. A trust is a legal entity and has the exact same rights as a person & always will. The reason fingerprints, photos, CLEO signature are not needed are because by legal definition a Trust cannot do anything illegal for the CLEO to sign off for. I personally see no benefit of going individual route. My primary reason for the trust is protection of my family and friends, no point in flirting with an illegal transfer charge and 10yrs in jail for letting a buddy borrow your stuff.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
What attorney? The trust forms are easily downloaded and all that is required is signature in front of a Notary. Filing is $15. And if something happens to you the property automatically transfers to those you designated.
As for changes, anything done already would be grandfathered in just like the personally owned items.
With that said, Tarrant County is a pain in the ass and chances are you would pretty much need to go through the trust route anyway.
~ Rico
PS... I'm not downplaying or speaking poorly of your decision(s) in the least, I was really wondering if there was a large difference or additional "perks" of individual ownership that I missed.</div></div>
You're correct. There is NO downside to the Trust IMHO. A trust is a legal entity and has the exact same rights as a person & always will. The reason fingerprints, photos, CLEO signature are not needed are because by legal definition a Trust cannot do anything illegal for the CLEO to sign off for. I personally see no benefit of going individual route. My primary reason for the trust is protection of my family and friends, no point in flirting with an illegal transfer charge and 10yrs in jail for letting a buddy borrow your stuff.
Re: Denton County, TX
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
What attorney? The trust forms are easily downloaded and all that is required is signature in front of a Notary. Filing is $15. And if something happens to you the property automatically transfers to those you designated.
As for changes, anything done already would be grandfathered in just like the personally owned items.
With that said, Tarrant County is a pain in the ass and chances are you would pretty much need to go through the trust route anyway.
~ Rico
PS... I'm not downplaying or speaking poorly of your decision(s) in the least, I was really wondering if there was a large difference or additional "perks" of individual ownership that I missed. </div></div>
I decided to go the trust route for my own personal reasons. Here in Texas, counties are hit or miss for a CLEO that will sign. Some will do it on the spot, some have a wait and others simply do not want their name tied to it. I've heard from a few sources that the Tarrant County Sheriff will sign off on NFA paperwork and this is good news for someone who wants to go this route. I am no lawyer and I am not certain what types of verbiage the ATF want to see when they review a trust so I am not going to just download what I think may be a legit trust and sign it, just to have it kicked back to me for changes. Also, I'm not married and do not have children. Therefore, as long as there are no changes in the trust laws, my Beneficiary will inherit what I have with no issues. If laws do change, then beneficiary status will be the same with a CLEO signed form 4 anyway. Sean Cody did my trust and he was recommended by my dealer. It was the route I chose to take. I didn't do it just to skip the riff raff. Accidents happen and if something happens to me then I do not want someone to accidentally get in trouble for being in possession of something they may or may not be aware of.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RicosRevenge</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only downside of a trust is the cost to hire a lawyer and make one. It's a Chevy vs. Ford argument and more of a personal preference. Most of the population that goes for a trust will be overlooking the fact you can bypass certain items and be thinking about the future and passing them to someone with little hassle. </div></div>
What attorney? The trust forms are easily downloaded and all that is required is signature in front of a Notary. Filing is $15. And if something happens to you the property automatically transfers to those you designated.
As for changes, anything done already would be grandfathered in just like the personally owned items.
With that said, Tarrant County is a pain in the ass and chances are you would pretty much need to go through the trust route anyway.
~ Rico
PS... I'm not downplaying or speaking poorly of your decision(s) in the least, I was really wondering if there was a large difference or additional "perks" of individual ownership that I missed. </div></div>
I decided to go the trust route for my own personal reasons. Here in Texas, counties are hit or miss for a CLEO that will sign. Some will do it on the spot, some have a wait and others simply do not want their name tied to it. I've heard from a few sources that the Tarrant County Sheriff will sign off on NFA paperwork and this is good news for someone who wants to go this route. I am no lawyer and I am not certain what types of verbiage the ATF want to see when they review a trust so I am not going to just download what I think may be a legit trust and sign it, just to have it kicked back to me for changes. Also, I'm not married and do not have children. Therefore, as long as there are no changes in the trust laws, my Beneficiary will inherit what I have with no issues. If laws do change, then beneficiary status will be the same with a CLEO signed form 4 anyway. Sean Cody did my trust and he was recommended by my dealer. It was the route I chose to take. I didn't do it just to skip the riff raff. Accidents happen and if something happens to me then I do not want someone to accidentally get in trouble for being in possession of something they may or may not be aware of.
