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    A friend of mine tipped me off to a new manufacturer in March called Diligent Defense Co. https://diligentdefense.com/

    There isnt a ton written about them since they just opened in January, but they've been in the form 1 kit business for a while.

    Tbac did include one of their cans in a recent 300blk sbr sound test which they posted here on the hide, but there wasn't any discussion about them. Most surprising about Diligent was the fact that the largest of their cans, the Enticer L Ti, topped the shooters ear rankings on Pewscience.com using a supersonic .308.

    They make basically four cans in 7.62mm. Two different lengths (8.25" and 7.75") in steel or titanium construction. all are 1.625" in diameter, and all have HUB rear threads. The features and performance come at a very reasonable price point as well. a Ti L without a mount and mill finish is $905. For comparison, the DA Nomad LT is $1100, and a Thunder Beast Ultra 9 is about the same as the DA. I appreciate light weigh small POI shift cans, and these appear to match the Tbac in that regard, see below.

    I’m most interested in the Ti variants for precision rifle, so I got one of each. The Ti cans are extremely light at 7.7 and 9.6 ounces without a mount. Both have symmetrical blast baffles, asymmetrical baffles in the center of the stack, and the forward most baffle is symmetrical. I'm no suppressor designer, so i'm sure there are design elements i'm missing. The end caps thread on and center up via a steep taper, which is unique in my experience. The end caps have a flash suppression feature as well, which I haven't tested. All of their cans are are rated to 300 WM with a 10.5" barrel.

    The finish shown below is called “Mill Finish”. They're also available in black and FDE for additional cost. They can also be had with no mount for some additional savings for those that are already vested in another mount system.

    While I don't do a lot of social media, check them on Instagram, they're pretty sporty. They also have some funny T-shirts.


    Its hard to make a can unique and interesting externally, but these are definitely attractive.
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    Ultra 7 and 338 Ultra for comparison
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    Pew rankings sorted by shooters ear.
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    I probably should have put some rounds through them before this, as both blew some goo onto my labradar, and may have caused some deviation on the first shot of the L. I added some rounds to the L string because of it. All were shot with area 419 universal adapters and mounts, and no zero changes were made between cans. The grid spacing on the target is .1 mil. I’m pleased that there was so little shift between them and the Tbac U7/30, which is zeroed on this rifle. They both appear accurate. Very rudimentary test of course. Sound performance was good, with the S being slightly quieter than the U7, and I couldn't really tell the difference between the Gen 1 338U and the L Ti. I spent some time spinning around in circles and shooting into distant hillsides to try and isolate the character of each without terrain reverberations. The 338 U must be quieter using telemetry, I just couldn't hear it.

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    I’ll get some more testing in as time allows. Diligent appears to have made a very solid entrance into the ultra light Ti can market for precision shooting. If one doesn't care about weight, the steel Enticer L with no mount is $600.

    Full disclosure I am a dealer, but NOT a hide seller so don't ask. I also did this review independent of Diligent. Hit up your local dealer and have them contact Diligent. Very easy for them to set up an account via the website and order in a suppressor for you. Below is a dealer list with existing dealers, but this isn't a complete list.

     
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    Based on low round count testing it looks like the TBAC 338 kicked the crap out of the other ones in group size.
    That was a small group indeed. Kind of at the limits of my ability to shoot frankly, and there’s no cherry picking here. Impressive that all the shots from the first three cans went into ~ .75 moa. Overall a very small sample size.
     

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    That was a small group indeed. Kind of at the limits of my ability to shoot frankly, and there’s no cherry picking here. Impressive that all the shots from the first three cans went into ~ .75 moa. Overall a very small sample size.
    I am beginning to lightly experiment with the possibility that suppressor position messes with barrel harmonics....and most cans still deliver the same performance as a raw muzzle harmonics aside. Adjusting exact can position with shims is how its gonna get tested.
     

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    I am beginning to lightly experiment with the possibility that suppressor position messes with barrel harmonics....and most cans still deliver the same performance as a raw muzzle harmonics aside. Adjusting exact can position with shims is how its gonna get tested.
    Ermahgerd. *Starts shrimping vigorously....
     
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    A friend of mine tipped me off to a new manufacturer in March called Diligent Defense Co. https://diligentdefense.com/

    There isnt a ton written about them since they just opened in January. Tbac did include one of their cans in a recent 300blk sbr sound test which they posted here on the hide. Most surprising was the fact that the largest of their cans, the Enticer L Ti, topped the shooters ear rankings on Pewscience.com using a supersonic .308.

    They make basically four cans. Two different lengths, in steel or titanium construction. All have HUB rear threads, and can he ordered with or without Diligent’s direct thread adapter. The features and performance come at a very reasonable price point. I’m most interested in the Ti variants for precision rifle, so I got one of each. The Ti cans are extremely light at 7.7 and 9.6 ounces without a mount. Both have symetrical blast baffles, asymetrical baffles in the center of the stack, and the forward most baffle is symmetrical. The end caps thread on, and center up via a steep taper.

    The finish shown below is called the “Mill Finish”. They're also available in black and FDE for additional cost.

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    Ultra 7 and 338 Ultra for comparison
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    Sorted for shooters ear
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    I probably should have put some rounds through them before this, as both blew some goo onto my labradar, and may have caused some deviation on the forst shot of the L. I added some rounds to the L string because of it. All were shot with area 419 universal adapters and mounts, and no zero changes were made. The grid spacing on the target is .1 mil. I’m pleased that there was so little shift between them, and they both appear accurate. Very rudimentary test of course Sound performance was good, with the S being slightly quieter than the U7, and I couldn't really tell the difference between the 338U and the L.

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    Awesome right up and thanks for the info about the new cans! I’m excited to try and see one in the wild. Also, that target is absolutely sick. It seems like it takes a lot of guessing out of things. Do you know where those can be purchased? Thanks!
     

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    Awesome right up and thanks for the info about the new cans! I’m excited to try and see one in the wild. Also, that target is absolutely sick. It seems like it takes a lot of guessing out of things. Do you know where those can be purchased? Thanks!
    I added a link to their dealer page in the OP, but you can also give your local dealer a heads up and see if they’ll bring one in. Super easy for them to set up an dealer account.
     
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    You think subes is a spammer?
    I mean, the guy sells the things to make money so there’s an immediate conflict of interest, and the post is laying it on pretty thick with gems like “these are definitely attractive” about some metal tubes. I’m sure it’s a fine product but “Hey guys, here’s an unsolicited and extremely positive review of a product I just happen to sell” is awfully spammy in general. I appreciate his disclosure at the end and in general I have no issue with this thread but it does kinda read like ad copy.
     
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    I mean, the guy sells the things to make money so there’s an immediate conflict of interest, and the post is laying it on pretty thick with gems like “these are definitely attractive” about some metal tubes. I’m sure it’s a fine product but “Hey guys, here’s an unsolicited and extremely positive review of a product I just happen to sell” is awfully spammy in general. I appreciate his disclosure at the end and in general I have no issue with this thread but it does kinda read like ad copy.
    It is in no way spamming. You could call it a lot of things but spam is the one that this thread isn’t.
     
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    I mean, the guy sells the things to make money so there’s an immediate conflict of interest, and the post is laying it on pretty thick with gems like “these are definitely attractive” about some metal tubes. I’m sure it’s a fine product but “Hey guys, here’s an unsolicited and extremely positive review of a product I just happen to sell” is awfully spammy in general. I appreciate his disclosure at the end and in general I have no issue with this thread but it does kinda read like ad copy.
    Not the first time ive done reviews of stuff. Been doing them for years actually, since long before I was in this business. I dont sell commercially here either, so if someone wants one they're going to have to go to their dealer for one. This leads to another point. Frequently members here cant find certain suppressors or their local dealer carries only certain makes. Ive long told people to directly ask their local shop about new products, and to bring those products in if necessary, because its just too easy. Sometimes availability of certain items are so backlogged that it will take longer to get the can than it will for the ATF to approve a paper form 4, which is unfortunate. I considered doing the exact same type of review for Otter Creek stuff, which fits in the same space as diligent, but some members here beat me to it. In fact the Otter creek stuff created much more of a splash here when they tested well on Pew. There wasnt a peep for Diligent as far as I could tell.

    Its funny you mention the attractive suppressor line I wrote. I get what you mean. I never really cared since I run covers on everything, until I saw a CGS Hyperion. Such a cool and interesting high performance can. I think they were trying to be different with the aesthetics, but OMG that thing looks awful. Just sets the standard for ugly. Tbac occupies the other end of that spectrum for me.

    Thanks for the feedback.
     

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    I felt it was a solid review with good thorough details. Could it appear to some as ad copy? Sure, being that he's a dealer, and some of the verbiage could appear sort of salesman-like. But I definitely wouldn't call it spam. I've not had any experience with one yet, but I've actually heard all the same things on social media about them...I've followed them for quite a while now. They seem like solid units, and I do like the looks of them (although I would probably opt for the black finish, personally). I'm interested in giving one of the TI or LTI cans a try.
     

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    One of these will probably be next can. The LTi looks like it would pair really well with a bolt gun. I saw on their site that they offer it in black and without a mount in the rear. That would be my ideal configuration so I can save a bit of money and use a Xeno mount.
     

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    Hey Supersubes! F you for showing me a cool new suppressor and a place to buy it! I like not knowing about shit and if I do find out, I would rather struggle on my own figuring out where it's available.
     
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    I’m sold. Now my biggest issue is deciding between the L and the S…
     

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    A friend of mine tipped me off to a new manufacturer in March called Diligent Defense Co. https://diligentdefense.com/

    There isnt a ton written about them since they just opened in January, but they've been in the form 1 kit business for a while.

    Tbac did include one of their cans in a recent 300blk sbr sound test which they posted here on the hide. Most surprising was the fact that the largest of their cans, the Enticer L Ti, topped the shooters ear rankings on Pewscience.com using a supersonic .308.

    They make basically four cans in 7.62mm. Two different lengths in steel or titanium construction. All have HUB rear threads, and can he ordered with or without Diligent’s direct thread adapter. The features and performance come at a very reasonable price point as well. Thunderbeast is the reference standard in this part of the market, but for many shooters they're a little spendy. I appreciate light weigh small POI shift cans, and these appear to match the tbac in that regard.

    I’m most interested in the Ti variants for precision rifle, so I got one of each. The Ti cans are extremely light at 7.7 and 9.6 ounces without a mount. Both have symetrical blast baffles, asymetrical baffles in the center of the stack, and the forward most baffle is symmetrical. Im no suppressor designer, so im sure there are design elements im missing. The end caps thread on and center up via a steep taper, which is unique in my experience. The end caps have a flash suppression feature as well, which I haven't tested.

    The finish shown below is called “Mill Finish”. They're also available in black and FDE for additional cost.

    While I dont do a lot of social media, check them on instagram, they're pretty sporty. They also have some great T-shirts.


    Its hard to make a can unique and interesting externally, but these are definitely attractive. View attachment 7883116

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    Blast baffle
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    Ultra 7 and 338 Ultra for comparison
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    Pew rankings sorted by shooters ear.
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    I probably should have put some rounds through them before this, as both blew some goo onto my labradar, and may have caused some deviation on the first shot of the L. I added some rounds to the L string because of it. All were shot with area 419 universal adapters and mounts, and no zero changes were made between cans. The grid spacing on the target is .1 mil. I’m pleased that there was so little shift between them and the Tbac U7, and they both appear accurate. Very rudimentary test of course. Sound performance was good, with the S being slightly quieter than the U7, and I couldn't really tell the difference between the Gen 1 338U and the L Ti. I spent some time spinning around in circles and shooting into distant hillsides to try and isolate the character of each without terrain reverberations. The 338 U must be quieter using telemetry, I just couldn't hear it.

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    I’ll get some more testing in as time allows. Diligent appears to have made a very solid entrance into the ultra light ti can market for precision shooting.

    Full disclosire I am a dealer, but NOT a hide seller so dont ask. I also did this review independant of Diligent. Hit up your local dealer and have them contact Diligent. Very very easy for them to set up an account and order in a suppressor for you. Below is a dealer list with existing dealers, but this isn't a complete list.

    How was the recoil impulse on these compared to the TBAC’s?
     

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    Yet another non-discriminator lol. Thanks very much though!
     

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    That’s not something I've ever been very in tune with. They all feel the same to me.

    How you can say such a thing about the substantial recoil impulse of the 25 Creedmoor delivered through a lightweight weapon system? You must be one of those "tough guys" from the good ol' days that grandma used to tell me about.

    Thanks for the detailed review. Those cans in the "naked" finish sure look purdy nice.
     

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    I am beginning to lightly experiment with the possibility that suppressor position messes with barrel harmonics....and most cans still deliver the same performance as a raw muzzle harmonics aside. Adjusting exact can position with shims is how its gonna get tested.

    Is the hypothesis that the impact on barrel harmonics is caused simply by the mass of the suppressor, or by the clocking of baffle clips/ports, or some combination of the two, or other factors that I haven't considered?

    I'm quite interested to see the setup and results of this experiment.
     

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    Is the hypothesis that the impact on barrel harmonics is caused simply by the mass of the suppressor, or by the clocking of baffle clips/ports, or some combination of the two, or other factors that I haven't considered?

    I'm quite interested to see the setup and results of this experiment.
    Do you remember the Browning BOSS system? Or barrel tuners? These things supposedly work (I have not tried them) and aren't a gimmick.

    I realized earlier that if you can move a muzzle brake a few thousandths of an inch and tighten up groups seriously a suppressor should do the same.
     
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    Hey Supersubes! F you for showing me a cool new suppressor and a place to buy it! I like not knowing about shit and if I do find out, I would rather struggle on my own figuring out where it's available.
    Exactly