Don't let this happen to you!

[Jeffd]

I was very lucky. First time shooting gun. Not good as gun malfunctioned.Fired out of battery!

 

[flyright]

Home build? Looks like the NF made it... Glad you didn't get hurt!

 

[bfoosh006]

Youch !! Hope you are A-ok !

What do you think caused it ?

And rifle details, please.

 

[Eagle1899]

What makes you think it fired out of battery?

 

[oldfatguy]

And that is why I never hold onto the magazine.

 

[Jeffd]

Not a home build. Built by Tactical Rifles / David Rooney. I cannot comment as I am litigation. Sorry! BTW - 6.5 Creedmoor caliber.

 

[Sixfivesavage]

Not a home build. Built by Tactical Rifles / David Rooney.

there's your problem. Glad you're OK. Good luck.

 

[Jeffd]

I am afraid to say, I agree with you.

 

[supercorndogs]

There are only a couple ways it is possible for one to fire out of battery. 1. Cam pin breaks. 2. Barrel rotates in the upper reviver. I can't think of any others. I guess if the firing pin was way too long, it might be able to reach the primer, when the bolt was not in the locked the position.

 

[softcock]

What makes you think it fired out of battery?

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same here ?
Hand Load ? or Box Factory Ammo ?
You got a picture of the Bolt damage ? , Is BCG free for Pics. or is the Bolt locked into the Chamber ?
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On Handloading AR, and you step over that line with an 'Overcharge' that exactly how it plays out . You blow the Mag. guts strait-out the Magwell for pressure relief .
.

 

[diverdon]

Not a home build. Built by Tactical Rifles / David Rooney. I cannot comment as I am litigation. Sorry! BTW - 6.5 Creedmoor caliber.

How much is it costing you to litigate? I've heard Rooney is judgment proof.

 

[Jeffd]

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same here ?
Hand Load ? or Box Factory Ammo ?
You got a picture of the Bolt damage ? , Is BCG free for Pics. or is the Bolt locked into the Chamber ?
-
On Handloading AR, and you step over that line with an 'Overcharge' that exactly how it plays out . You blow the Mag. guts strait-out the Magwell for pressure relief .
.

Hornady Factory ammo!

 

[Jeffd]

How much is it costing you to litigate? I've heard Rooney is judgment proof.

I don't think anyone is Judgement proof? Time will tell!

 

[Jeffd]

-
same here ?
Hand Load ? or Box Factory Ammo ?
You got a picture of the Bolt damage ? , Is BCG free for Pics. or is the Bolt locked into the Chamber ?
-
On Handloading AR, and you step over that line with an 'Overcharge' that exactly how it plays out . You blow the Mag. guts strait-out the Magwell for pressure relief .

Sorry I wish I could answer the questions but as I said, we are litigating the matter presently.

 

[Jeffd]

there's your problem. Glad you're OK. Good luck.

I appreciate it. I wanted to post more pictures but they are being saved for court.

 

[diverdon]

I don't think anyone is Judgement proof? Time will tell!

Moses the Tank is the guy you need to talk to. But to the extent I remember correctly--in his state a primary residence can not be taken to satisfy a lawsuit judgement, all the equipment in his shop has UCC's filed by the bank (so they belong to the bank not to him.)

Winning a lawsuit could be a slam dunk on the facts, collecting the funds could be much harder.

DO NOT SIGN FOR ANY REGISTERED LETTERS WHILE THIS IS ONGOING!

If you get a registered letter it will probably be a cease and desist, perhaps with a notice that you are being sued in federal court for slander and for damaging his reputation. If you don't sign for the letter you at least make him hire a process server.

 

[338LM_Sniper]

I am glad that you are okay.

+1 for I will never hold on to the magazine when shooting my rifle.

 

[Jeffd]

Moses the Tank is the guy you need to talk to. But to the extent I remember correctly--in his state a primary residence can not be taken to satisfy a lawsuit judgement, all the equipment in his shop has UCC's filed by the bank (so they belong to the bank not to him.)

Winning a lawsuit could be a slam dunk on the facts, collecting the funds could be much harder.

DO NOT SIGN FOR ANY REGISTERED LETTERS WHILE THIS IS ONGOING!

If you get a registered letter it will probably be a cease and desist, perhaps with a notice that you are being sued in federal court for slander and for damaging his reputation. If you don't sign for the letter you at least make him hire a process server.

Update - Judgement received against Rooney personally and Tactical Rifles. Money is being collected!

 

[amcardon]

Any more details you can share?

 

[Jeffd]

Any more details you can share?

What would you like to know?

 

[Rocketvapor]

What would you like to know?

Other than the issue with the builder/seller what has been determined to be the mechanical cause of the failure?
Something didn't work right.
Did a part break to cause this?
Was something not aligned?
Was there an out-of-spec part?

As a Kitchen builder, what do I NOT want to do that could result in 'blowed up Sir".

I did go to the web and read some of the issues with the vendor. Not interested in that.

 

[Jeffd]

Other than the issue with the builder/seller what has been determined to be the mechanical cause of the failure?
Something didn't work right.
Did a part break to cause this?
Was something not aligned?
Was there an out-of-spec part?

As a Kitchen builder, what do I NOT want to do that could result in 'blowed up Sir".

I did go to the web and read some of the issues with the vendor. Not interested in that.

It fired out of battery. it appears that they installed an incorrect buffer spring.

 

[AZgeek]

Wow! Carbine length spring in a full length stock. No idea this could be the result. Never made that mistake and for sure never will. Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you are OK.

 

[AZgeek]

Or was it correct length and for an AR15 BCG?

 

[jojotheclown]

Glad you are ok.. looks nasty.

 

[ShooterwithNoName]

Damn. I wish you the best of luck with everything. I've heard some horror stories so I hope you drop the hammer hard on him. Glad you didn't get hurt man.

 

[Lunchbox27]

I hope you get all your funds back, plus lawyer fees. This guy is horrible. I wish word would spread ocean to ocean about this asshat.

 

[footsteps]

Could have been an end game incident. . All the best now go buy yourself a great rifle and continue to enjoy shooting.

 

[Jeffd]

I hope you get all your funds back, plus lawyer fees. This guy is horrible. I wish word would spread ocean to ocean about this asshat.

The Judgement was for a total of $27,500.00 and we are halfway there on getting back the funds. Thanks to all for their well wishes!