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Effects of ammo temperature itself - not air temp

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Gunny Sergeant
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We all know how air temp and humidity effects the flight of the bullet, but what about the temperature of the ammo itself - regardless of air temp?

While I still had some cold weather left, I thought I'd try to see what would happen if the ammo temp rather than air temp would have an effect on POI or other factors. The morning was cold, air temp of 16 deg F. I used match velocity and high velocity ammos, left them sit in the shade outside for 30 min. I then put the same in magazines and left them on the vehicle defroster (couldn't get a temp reading, but magazines and ammo were quite warm, almost hot to the touch).

I shot 1 ten round group of "cold" ammo, then shot 1 ten round group of "hot" ammo, both through a sporter barreled and heavy barreled Savage MKII from the bench at 50 yds, rear bag and bipod. Wind was light, 3-5 MPH from 3:00, low humidity, sunny, snow covered ground. 1" circles were the target. When I switched from the match velocity ammo to the high velocity ammo, I dry swabbed the barrels, then shot 10 rounds off target before the test groupings to get as much of an equal fouling / seasoning as I could.

Although in hind sight I should have shot them through a chronograph, I didn't (as i didn't anticipate a need for it at the time) but should have.

Results of the High Velocity CCI Blazer ammo, MKII pencil barrel top, MKII heavy barrel below:

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Results of the Match velocity Wolf Match Target ammo, MKII pencil barrel top, MKII heavy barrel below:

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As a slight disclaimer, the CCI Blazer ammo was weight sorted, the Wolf Match Target was not. In general it seemed that both type of velocity ammos grouped better when the ammo temperature was higher, and also produced a higher POI, even though a slight one. I can only imagine that at 100 yards and further out the difference would even be more pronounced, and stayed with the 50 yard results.

I hope to try the reverse this summer - high air temperature with the ammo sitting in the sun outside VS cooler ammo sitting on the defroster with the air conditioner on.
 
Re: Effects of ammo temperature itself - not air temp

Makes sense to me. I was taught to leave the bolt back on a hot centerfire gun until right before you're ready to fire. A hot chamber will heat up the round and give a little more velocity. I leave the bolt back while I'm watching the wind. Just before I'm ready to fire, I chamber the round.
 
Re: Effects of ammo temperature itself - not air temp

Same here US Marine. When shooting the 600 slow fire, we'd chamber the rd in our M-14's just before shooting. If you let it sit in the chamber and cook awhile, you'd shoot a high ten or nine at six o'clock. That's only 8-12" at that range, but significant when shooting for X's. We'd also cover our ammo box with a white towel to keep it cool as possible.
 
Re: Effects of ammo temperature itself - not air temp

Absolutely makes sense. One more thing is the round itself. lapua (sk,wolf are all the same) has a graphite coating with a little oil, most other brands have a wax coating sensitive to temperature.
The lapua polar biathlon is the most used round for biathlon for a reason.