Range Report Factory hunting loads for long range shooting?

Dumb_Like_Fox

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I went out yesterday to my current 500(ish) yard spot for some plinking action. After zeroing at 100, I stepped up to the 530 yard target. I was not impressed with my performance. Only 4 hits on paper, and I'm not even going to say how many shots I took.
I was shooting Federal 150 grain soft point (.308 power-shok). I was shooting around 2 MOA at 100 yards with this ammo after I zero'd, so I figured I should give the 530 yarder a shot.
What I'm trying to figure out is how much my missing was due to shooting lower grade ammo and how much was just shooter error (ie wind estimation). I'm totally new to long range shooting, but have shot under 1/2 MOA with Match ammo so I know my shooting technique isn't complete garbage.
How well (MOA) can blue-box Federal be shot? Taking a look at the ballistics table shows that a match round is off by 22" at 500 yards with a 10mph crosswind, while the soft point 150 grain is off by 39.2". Thats quite a difference.
Seeing as how I'm a noob and don't know how to estimate wind, a 10mph crosswind could have made me miss completely.
Am I wasting my time shooting this load at over 500 yards or do I just need to learn to read the wind (which I have to do anyway)?
I'll probably start handloading just to cut down the costs (50 bucks a box is steep for a peasant like me), but for now it's either keep shooting the cheap stuff or drop the dollars for more Gold Medal Match and watch the bank account whither. So once again, is shooting the soft-point at this range a waste of time or just a learning curve?
 
Re: Factory hunting loads for long range shooting?

Yep, I agree. I'd work my way out there in increments, minding how things go. You'll learn a lot more that way.

As for why, I'd say it's a bit of both counts. Longer distances favor heavier, longer bullets; and everybody improves with practice, especially when you learn in incremental distance stages.

That will tell you whether you're wasting time and ammo. Because for some, the answer will be yes; and for others, no.

Piece of advice; asking questions can help, but the most help comes from going out and doing. Then you <span style="font-style: italic">know</span>.

Greg
 
Re: Factory hunting loads for long range shooting?

Ha! Just to see if I could hit the target! I did a bit of 200 yard shooting as well but at that range, wind and ranging errors don't really make you miss...I will try more short range shooting for sure but would like to know whether its even worth shooting cheap hunting loads.
Since I'm basically just hacking it and learning what I can from books and the internet, I expect it to be a fickle process. According to John Plaster (the messiah of the resourceless internet shooting hack) using anything less than match-grade ammo is a waste of time.
 
Re: Factory hunting loads for long range shooting?

1) Buy the online training. It will help you shoot better.

I would switch to something else, I've been able to find Black Hills 168 AMAX for $20/box and Hornady Police TAP 168 for $26/box.

-dan
 
Re: Factory hunting loads for long range shooting?

American Eagle, 168 grain HPBT.
Intended for M1A use,
Shoots VERY well out of our Savage 10PC.
Can be had for about 16.50 a box.
http://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-1397-fe...-20-rounds.aspx
Other than that, reload.
Sometimes the winchester white box ammo shoots very well, it just depends on the rifle and the lot of the ammo.
save your brass, if you don't reload now, you will.
The american eagle ammo has crimped primers because it is intended for gas guns. The crimp has to be removed prior to reloading.
 
Re: Factory hunting loads for long range shooting?

cool, thanks guys. I picked up some Hornady 155 Gr A-MAX today for cheaper than what I was paying for the GMM. I'll probably just end up reloading, but I'm not quite there yet...