The FAQs here are very nice, is there one for rings and bases? I want to know what makes rings and pic bases better than others.
Rifle Scopes FAQ For Rings and Bases
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Re: FAQ For Rings and Bases
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The FAQs here are very nice, is there one for rings and bases? I want to know what makes rings and pic bases better than others. </div></div>
That would be a Frequently Expressed Opinion, rather than a FAQ....
Badger, Seekins Near, USO......NF, Acculock, EGW, and on and on.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The FAQs here are very nice, is there one for rings and bases? I want to know what makes rings and pic bases better than others. </div></div>
That would be a Frequently Expressed Opinion, rather than a FAQ....
Badger, Seekins Near, USO......NF, Acculock, EGW, and on and on.
Re: FAQ For Rings and Bases
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTT any ideas? I am still clueless with mounting hardware... </div></div>
What are you looking to mount onto what, and how much clearance do you need?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BTT any ideas? I am still clueless with mounting hardware... </div></div>
What are you looking to mount onto what, and how much clearance do you need?
Re: FAQ For Rings and Bases
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to know what makes rings and pic bases better than others. </div></div>
Are you asking 'what makes' as in which manufacturers... or as in 'what makes one certain ring/base better than some others'?
1) Materials the rings/bases are machined from, 2)the tolerances to which they are machined, and 3) durability of design, and possibly 4) fit/finish all play a factor in making some rings/base manufacturers better than others.
Although, there are a number of opinions on 'which one is best?'... the high end ones will probably be very similar and exceed almost any individual's requirements.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to know what makes rings and pic bases better than others. </div></div>
Are you asking 'what makes' as in which manufacturers... or as in 'what makes one certain ring/base better than some others'?
1) Materials the rings/bases are machined from, 2)the tolerances to which they are machined, and 3) durability of design, and possibly 4) fit/finish all play a factor in making some rings/base manufacturers better than others.
Although, there are a number of opinions on 'which one is best?'... the high end ones will probably be very similar and exceed almost any individual's requirements.
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Thanks, I was planning on using a PRI? Trijicon 20MOA steel base, but for the rings I cannot figure anything out. Maybe just use the PRI Trijicon steel rings too?
What are the issues you have with using aluminum? Also the recoil lug? Also some of the rail systems have the groove channel type thing cut out of the center, what is that for? example, badger vs the Larue 700 aluminum rail. The badge has the center cut out. Also the screws? I assume all are torx head, but do I really need a gunsmith to install the base? Can I not just torque all the screws down to the recommended specs and use blue loctite? My smith says he re-taps the receiver with even bigger screws to make it more sturdy? Will the recoil lug not be enough?
With the rings, I really liked the weaver picatinny 6 screw rings, but it seems like the consensus is that they are cheap. One of my biggest peeves is cheap hardware, (screw stripping, etc) so I would like to avoid this.
Lots of questions sorry, thanks in advance.
Thanks, I was planning on using a PRI? Trijicon 20MOA steel base, but for the rings I cannot figure anything out. Maybe just use the PRI Trijicon steel rings too?
What are the issues you have with using aluminum? Also the recoil lug? Also some of the rail systems have the groove channel type thing cut out of the center, what is that for? example, badger vs the Larue 700 aluminum rail. The badge has the center cut out. Also the screws? I assume all are torx head, but do I really need a gunsmith to install the base? Can I not just torque all the screws down to the recommended specs and use blue loctite? My smith says he re-taps the receiver with even bigger screws to make it more sturdy? Will the recoil lug not be enough?
With the rings, I really liked the weaver picatinny 6 screw rings, but it seems like the consensus is that they are cheap. One of my biggest peeves is cheap hardware, (screw stripping, etc) so I would like to avoid this.
Lots of questions sorry, thanks in advance.
Re: FAQ For Rings and Bases
hell, while im asking questions here's another. Do I have to buy a torque wrench from leupold or can I just get one form sears or something? I am new to the precision rifle thing so I do want to do it all correctly, but for removing the stock, and installing and checking on all of this mounting shit I want to have a torque wrench...
Also are there torque settings to be followed when removing the action from the stock? is this easily done?
hell, while im asking questions here's another. Do I have to buy a torque wrench from leupold or can I just get one form sears or something? I am new to the precision rifle thing so I do want to do it all correctly, but for removing the stock, and installing and checking on all of this mounting shit I want to have a torque wrench...
Also are there torque settings to be followed when removing the action from the stock? is this easily done?
Re: FAQ For Rings and Bases
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Also the screws? I assume all are torx head, but do I really need a gunsmith to install the base? Can I not just torque all the screws down to the recommended specs and use blue loctite? My smith says he re-taps the receiver with even bigger screws to make it more sturdy? Will the recoil lug not be enough?
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The torx heads allow torque to be applied evenly and to higher levels than allen style heads. No, a gunsmith isn't needed to install the base. Yes, torque base/ring screws to each manufacturer's recommended specs... there is some slight variations among some of them. Some prefer to loctite the base screws (make sure it's blue loctite, not the red) ... other guys feel it's not necessary. I prefer to loctite mine, just to be safe.
The 8-40 screws are used for 'hard-use' applications. Most guys will never subject the weapon to the extreme use where the difference will be noticable. The recoil lug transfers a big part of the recoil impulse to the action - removing much of the stress on the base screws. Whether you need the recoil lug or not depends on the weapon system it's mounted on... it's much more critical on hard recoiling weapons platforms. Mostly personal preference, but not critical on anything from .308 Win or smaller.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do I have to buy a torque wrench from leupold or can I just get one from Sears or something? </div></div>
Any accurate torque wrench will do the job. I picked up a good Craftsman from Sears years ago... works great.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also are there torque settings to be followed when removing the action from the stock? is this easily done? </div></div>
When removing the stock - no. When putting it back together, absolutely... for any degree of consistency anyway. Torque settings will depend on the stock material (wood vs synthetic).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Also the screws? I assume all are torx head, but do I really need a gunsmith to install the base? Can I not just torque all the screws down to the recommended specs and use blue loctite? My smith says he re-taps the receiver with even bigger screws to make it more sturdy? Will the recoil lug not be enough?
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The torx heads allow torque to be applied evenly and to higher levels than allen style heads. No, a gunsmith isn't needed to install the base. Yes, torque base/ring screws to each manufacturer's recommended specs... there is some slight variations among some of them. Some prefer to loctite the base screws (make sure it's blue loctite, not the red) ... other guys feel it's not necessary. I prefer to loctite mine, just to be safe.
The 8-40 screws are used for 'hard-use' applications. Most guys will never subject the weapon to the extreme use where the difference will be noticable. The recoil lug transfers a big part of the recoil impulse to the action - removing much of the stress on the base screws. Whether you need the recoil lug or not depends on the weapon system it's mounted on... it's much more critical on hard recoiling weapons platforms. Mostly personal preference, but not critical on anything from .308 Win or smaller.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do I have to buy a torque wrench from leupold or can I just get one from Sears or something? </div></div>
Any accurate torque wrench will do the job. I picked up a good Craftsman from Sears years ago... works great.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also are there torque settings to be followed when removing the action from the stock? is this easily done? </div></div>
When removing the stock - no. When putting it back together, absolutely... for any degree of consistency anyway. Torque settings will depend on the stock material (wood vs synthetic).
Re: FAQ For Rings and Bases
What about the recoil lug? With the smaller screws is this someting that is needed?
What about the recoil lug? With the smaller screws is this someting that is needed?
