Finally going after the most dangerous criminals- Special Olympians !

[nagantguy]

Their handicap, training regimen and the glory of winning a medal in international competition no longer excuses their rampant violent criminal behavior.

Walking at night - sober and not wanting to talk to strangers - fucking asshole finally got knocked down and arrested

 

[nagantguy]

He was handicapped and scared and had committed no crime - he’s lucky he survived the encounter.
Thank God he wasn’t walking his dog

 

[nagantguy]

And the “supervisor” saying we are going to give you a citation for “something “ and hopefully you can work it out .

The thing that got him assaulted and cuffed wasn’t a crime but they had to issue him a ticket for something to cover their blue brothers back . Well I guess the guy did have some “suspicious” cash in his pocket.

At the end I counted 4 cops- and the Special Olympia still had the higher combined IQ by a magnitude of 10.

 

[Safetyoff700]

Whew. Good thing everyone made it out alive.

They should pay him. Good job to the real heroes here on the internet.

 

[nagantguy]

No no no all credit goes to the brave men who beat up and rob the mentally and physically handicapped to ensure we are safe - the real heroes.
Imagine the damage he could have done walking around sober with suspicious cash in his pocket .

 

[Safetyoff700]

You are too humble. It must be hard to be that humble and so right ALL the time. Brave too. So brave. The bravest, Most humble internet armchair cop warrior.

I just don’t know how you do it buddy.

 

[LMTMWS]

You are too humble. It must be hard to be that humble and so right ALL the time. Brave too. So brave. The bravest, Most humble internet armchair cop warrior.

I just don’t know how you do it buddy.

Post how he is wrong in this assessment, or just do the ad hominem, the favorite argument of the toddler..akin to "you're a poopy pants" and make yourself irrelevant.

 

[Safetyoff700]

Post how he is wrong in this assessment, or just do the ad hominem, the favorite argument of the toddler..akin to "you're a poopy pants" and make yourself irrelevant.

Okay. You’re a poopy pants. (A GHeY one)

Never said her assessment was wrong. I quite often agree with her assessment, but have always maintained it’s simply chicken shit to play armchair cop EVERY Day.

Having said that. These cops are also chicken shit, but they will only be chicken shit in the posted video, unlike other habitual chicken shits who get a Hard-on while critiquing other chicken shits, but I digress lest I give these chicken shits the opportunity to attempt a redirect of the chickenshitery and claim hypocrisy in protest as afore mentioned chicken shits would undoubtedly be all to obliged to attempt.


Poopy pants

 

[LMTMWS]

Okay. You’re a poopy pants. (A GHeY one)

Never said her assessment was wrong. I quite often agree with her assessment, but have always maintained it’s simply chicken shit to play armchair cop EVERY Day.

Having said that. These cops are also chicken shit, but they will only be chicken shit in the posted video, unlike other habitual chicken shits who get a Hard-on while critiquing other chicken shits, but I digress lest I give these chicken shits the opportunity to attempt a redirect of the chickenshitery and claim hypocrisy in protest as afore mentioned chicken shits would undoubtedly be all to obliged to attempt.


Poopy pants

Your Boolean logic based assessment is that if someone continually criticizes a group of people when they do illegal and immoral acts, then that someone is a chicken shit? Interesting...So if someone does not continue to criticize a group when they do illegal and immoral acts, then they are not a chicken shit? Does that then mean you should not criticize illegal and immoral acts, or that doing it only on occasion makes you brave/not a chicken shit?

 

[nagantguy]

I would contend that an authority figure , public servant attacking a mentally and physically disabled person , stealing their money and making up a reason to issue them a citation for walking “suspiciously “ would be the chicken shit cowardly act .

But maybe I’m just a poppy pants

 

[Safetyoff700]

I agree. Thievery is chicken chit and authority figures abusing power is the chittiest.

My Boolean logic is not that the criticism is what makes one a chicken shit
Criticism is GREAT! It helps provoke thought and discussion ….like right now.

My Boolean logic is that constant online criticism of chicken shit cops doing chicken shit stuff does no good when the critic goes without highlighting the possibility of an alternative outcome.

Yeah the low hanging fruit is to show chicken shit cops not beating on handicapped or elderly or women, but as I have said before- show people policing done right vs policing done wrong so we can actually be productive and fix something.

Show us how it’s supposed to go right and provide examples or scenarios (if possible) of a good and proper outcome where the chicken shit cops get it right. Otherwise criticism does little if nothing at all to fix the actual problem.

It may educate people of their rights some, But it seems more so to agitate the citizen (as exemplified here to some extent) and radicalize chicken shits on both sides of the debate.

Criticism is great when it generates positive change, when it doesn’t generate a positive change then the postulation could easily be asserted that such criticism is little more than chicken chit from the poopy pants.

I still think we’re all gonna be besties here any day. Can’t wait go to a Taylor swift concert and sing kumbaya with all you guys

 

[nagantguy]

Best way to bring change about is to shine a light on the evil deeds . I’m one poor farm boy but I can communicate with the world - kinda the biggest audience thing - always include video because a picture might be worth a thousand word but video is priceless.
When I meet a boomer or fudd or bootlicker I can dispel their idea of it being a few bad apples with any highlights reel of my nearly 10,000 hours of their hero’s committing atrocities. Like beating up handicapped people and stealing g their “suspicious” cash and then their backup and superior go right along with them .
A few bad apples spoil the barrel, a barrel of spoiled apples stinks like cat piss and swamp gas.

 

[Safetyoff700]

Best way to bring change about is to shine a light on the evil deeds . I’m one poor farm boy but I can communicate with the world - kinda the biggest audience thing - always include video because a picture might be worth a thousand word but video is priceless.
When I meet a boomer or fudd or bootlicker I can dispel their idea of it being a few bad apples with any highlights reel of my nearly 10,000 hours of their hero’s committing atrocities. Like beating up handicapped people and stealing g their “suspicious” cash and then their backup and superior go right along with them .
A few bad apples spoil the barrel, a barrel of spoiled apples stinks like cat piss and swamp gas.

Yup!

Agree completely, and the same is true for all Gubmint. Power hungry bastards.

Still, the question remains now that a light is on it. How do you fix policing?

 

[Buzzinga]

I think you fix policing by pulling from a different group of people. If your job is to interact with people all day, everyday, then you should probably have the social skills to deal with those people all day, each day.

From my high school, I know of about three people who became cops. All were intelligent, got good grades, and NEVER got into any trouble. They had very few friends and were never invited to any parties. One guy was actually the only person I’ve ever had bully me. His dad was also a cocaine addicted police officer. He had to take multiple leaves for drug rehab. He was also a pedophile who would take pictures of young girls in bikinis at the lake. He probably did other stuff too but my experiences are basically limited to what he did to my family.

My dad (a real monster who chooses kindness and peace over hatred and violence) actually had to confront him about taking pics of my 16-year-old sister while we were out on the boat.

In other words, they were at best nerds who didn’t really know how to interact in social situations. At worst, they were psychopaths in training.

Now they have a gun and a badge and still don’t know how to be a normal dude or dudette. They’re constantly getting complaints filed against them, some have had lawsuits, and one has been fired after a couple years of fighting his termination. Our city did have to pay him for two years of back pay. He admitted to some horrible things in court.

All have massively abused their position in violent ways against non-violent people.

I truly believe we are asking the wrong people to be cops and the fallout is almost guaranteed.

 

[The D]

Yup!

Agree completely, and the same is true for all Gubmint. Power hungry bastards.

Still, the question remains now that a light is on it. How do you fix policing?

One thing is for sure. You don’t stop criticizing.

If @nagantguy was only posting about one police force and nitpicking every tiny misstep then your complaints would have merit. But there is very little repeat traffic. And that is exactly the problem

 

[Buzzinga]

In other words, you find the men who have the ability to become monsters but choose to not.

 

[The D]

I think you fix policing by pulling from a different group of people. If your job is to interact with people all day, everyday, then you should probably have the social skills to deal with those people all day, each day.

From my high school, I know of about three people who became cops. All were intelligent, got good grades, and NEVER got into any trouble. They had very few friends and were never invited to any parties. One guy was actually the only person I’ve ever had bully me. His dad was also a cocaine addicted police officer. He had to take multiple leaves for drug rehab. He was also a pedophile who would take pictures of young girls in bikinis at the lake. He probably did other stuff too but my experiences are basically limited to what he did to my family.

My dad actually had to confront him about taking pics of my 16-year-old sister while we were out on the boat.

In other words, they were at best nerds who didn’t really know how to interact in social situations. At worst, they were psychopaths in training.

Now they have a gun and a badge and still don’t know how to be a normal dude or dudette. They’re constantly getting complaints filed against them, some have had lawsuits, and one has been fired after a couple years of fighting his termination. Our city did have to pay him for two years of back pay. He admitted to some horrible things in court.

All have massively abused their position in violent ways against non-violent people.

I truly believe we are asking the wrong people to be cops and the fallout is almost guaranteed.

Finding different people and/or providing different training will not do anything to fix the problem. The incentives for the police departments/unions need to change but everyone is too scared to discuss it

 

[Charger442]

One thing is for sure. You don’t stop criticizing.

If @nagantguy was only posting about one police force and nitpicking every tiny misstep then your complaints would have merit. But there is very little repeat traffic. And that is exactly the problem

well except that one female cop in tennessee. she had repeat train traffic. many times.

 

[The D]

In other words, you find the men who have the ability to become monsters but choose to not.

Read this and get back to us

Amazon.com

 

[Buzzinga]

Read this and get back to us

Amazon.com

Well I’m obviously not going to, so how about a short recap.

 

[The D]

well except that one female cop in tennessee. she had repeat train traffic. many times.

 

[Buzzinga]

I was raised by men who are capable of extreme violence but chose to be good men instead. They do exist.

 

[Buzzinga]

Finding different people and/or providing different training will not do anything to fix the problem. The incentives for the police departments/unions need to change but everyone is too scared to discuss it

I didn’t say that was the only solution. But it is a good start.

 

[The D]

Well I’m obviously not going to, so how about a short recap.

Then you keep talking shit about the wrong problems and continue to wonder why nothing happens in the right direction. There are very real answers to what you’re talking about but I guess reading, or even listening to an audio book, is just a bit too much of a burden. For fuck’s sake…

 

[Charger442]

I was raised by men who are capable of extreme violence but chose to be good men instead. They do exist.

there's many of us capable of extreme violence and yet we choose not to be cops. it's wild how that works.

id say the issue is many cops have been given the chance to right wrongs and exercise their own demons, and go on a power trip. but it's not all.

 

[The D]

I was raised by men who are capable of extreme violence but chose to be good men instead. They do exist.

I didn’t say that was the only solution. But it is a good start.

Do you think you can spare a few minutes to read an internet article? Actually understanding the phrase “Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely” will go a long way in figuring out the problem

Power Corrupts

When a person gains power over other persons–political power to force other persons to do his bidding when they do not believe it right to do so–it seems inevitable that a moral weakness develops in the person who exercises that power. It may take time for this weakness to become visible. In...

www.acton.org

 

[The D]

Homey, you’ve got some serious emotional issues.

I think we look at the world very differently. I see the world as a good place with some bad shit in it. Something tells me you are always looking for the bad stuff to justify your negative stance in life, completely forgoing all the good stuff in the meantime.

You tore me apart for saying policing could get better if we got better people to do the work. Sounds pretty logical to me. Fine if you don’t agree, but address the argument.

I honestly feel sorry for you. And when you come back with some hate filled response about how stupid and lazy I am, understand you mean nothing to me, I pity people like you because anger and hatred have absolutely corrupted you 100% and your children will pay the ultimate price. I guarantee there is not one person alive that enjoys being around you. And that is sadder than anything I could imagine.

Even if I’m wrong about everything I said here today; at the end of the day I’m going home to a beautiful house on gorgeous land, with a beautiful view, and I will be greeted by people and dogs who like me. And after dinner, I’m going to go soak in the hot tub and enjoy a chocolate milkshake.

I wish you the best in your life, but I cherish mine too much to voluntarily subject myself to people like you. #Ignore

Nah, man. You’re entirely wrong about me. I have a fairly similar analog to how you describe your life

My problem is always seeing the same stupid argument for why there are so many problems with police/military. And I get it, with this being such a mil/leo heavy forum. But there are very real answers to why the problem is the way it is, and it’s not “just find better people”. If you genuinely would like to understand the problem I can point you to some explanations.

And, here is the paragraph describing the book I linked to, since you asked for it

“Ordinary Men is the true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942. Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions. Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.

While this book discusses a specific Reserve Unit during WWII, the general argument Browning makes is that most people succumb to the pressures of a group setting and commit actions they would never do of their own volition.

Ordinary Men is a powerful, chilling, and important work with themes and arguments that continue to resonate today.”

I’m sorry I overreacted. This argument always grinds my gears. Have an amazing weekend

 

[Charger442]

Perhaps the reason so many cops “exercise their own demons, and power trip” has more to do with who they are and what their moral/ethical code says. Perhaps if we chose different thinking people, some of that might go away.

so you do get it. awesome.

Now if we turned policing from a revenue generation scheme and road piracy, but instead focused on stopping and preventing ACTUAL crime, not walking while sober with pocket money, everything could be better.

The Karen Reed Trial is just a taste into this seedy underbelly of bad cops covering up for each other.

 

[Buzzinga]

so you do get it. awesome.

Now if we turned policing from a revenue generation scheme and road piracy, but instead focused on stopping and preventing ACTUAL crime, not walking while sober with pocket money, everything could be better.

The Karen Reed Trial is just a taste into this seedy underbelly of bad cops covering up for each

Sounds reasonable to me

 

[Safetyoff700]

One thing is for sure. You don’t stop criticizing.

If @nagantguy was only posting about one police force and nitpicking every tiny misstep then your complaints would have merit. But there is very little repeat traffic. And that is exactly the problem

Hmmmm. Show me the criticism in my last post.

I mean look how this discussion has petty shit to actual intelligent conversation with grown men exchanging ideas.

Pretty damn effective work on all sides I’d say.

 

[Safetyoff700]

I think you fix policing by pulling from a different group of people. If your job is to interact with people all day, everyday, then you should probably have the social skills to deal with those people all day, each day.

From my high school, I know of about three people who became cops. All were intelligent, got good grades, and NEVER got into any trouble. They had very few friends and were never invited to any parties. One guy was actually the only person I’ve ever had bully me. His dad was also a cocaine addicted police officer. He had to take multiple leaves for drug rehab. He was also a pedophile who would take pictures of young girls in bikinis at the lake. He probably did other stuff too but my experiences are basically limited to what he did to my family.

My dad (a real monster who chooses kindness and peace over hatred and violence) actually had to confront him about taking pics of my 16-year-old sister while we were out on the boat.

In other words, they were at best nerds who didn’t really know how to interact in social situations. At worst, they were psychopaths in training.

Now they have a gun and a badge and still don’t know how to be a normal dude or dudette. They’re constantly getting complaints filed against them, some have had lawsuits, and one has been fired after a couple years of fighting his termination. Our city did have to pay him for two years of back pay. He admitted to some horrible things in court.

All have massively abused their position in violent ways against non-violent people.

I truly believe we are asking the wrong people to be cops and the fallout is almost guaranteed.

YES!

Agree on all aspects!!

 

[Safetyoff700]

Nah, man. You’re entirely wrong about me. I have a fairly similar analog to how you describe your life

My problem is always seeing the same stupid argument for why there are so many problems with police/military. And I get it, with this being such a mil/leo heavy forum. But there are very real answers to why the problem is the way it is, and it’s not “just find better people”. If you genuinely would like to understand the problem I can point you to some explanations.

And, here is the paragraph describing the book I linked to, since you asked for it

“Ordinary Men is the true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942. Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions. Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.

While this book discusses a specific Reserve Unit during WWII, the general argument Browning makes is that most people succumb to the pressures of a group setting and commit actions they would never do of their own volition.

Ordinary Men is a powerful, chilling, and important work with themes and arguments that continue to resonate today.”

I’m sorry I overreacted. This argument always grinds my gears. Have an amazing weekend

These guys are on to something’s