First Long Range Rifle
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DPMS. The 308 gets it done at those distances. Plus you have more options for bullet selection if you reload.
DPMS. The 308 gets it done at those distances. Plus you have more options for bullet selection if you reload.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are those the only choices? </div></div>
Just what I have narrowed down in my own personal likes/dislikes. Any input is appreciated though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are those the only choices? </div></div>
Just what I have narrowed down in my own personal likes/dislikes. Any input is appreciated though.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are those the only choices?</div></div>
+1, You are severely limiting yourself by only accepting those two. Of the two you mention I would strongly recommend the .308 as well, however, in the budget range of those two rifles, there are many strong choices that I would pick over either of those for a beginner shooter. The Remington 5R would get a nod, as well as many of the used rifles found in the FS regularly for around $1K
DD
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are those the only choices?</div></div>
+1, You are severely limiting yourself by only accepting those two. Of the two you mention I would strongly recommend the .308 as well, however, in the budget range of those two rifles, there are many strong choices that I would pick over either of those for a beginner shooter. The Remington 5R would get a nod, as well as many of the used rifles found in the FS regularly for around $1K
DD
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are those the only choices?</div></div>
+1, You are severely limiting yourself by only accepting those two. Of the two you mention I would strongly recommend the .308 as well, however, in the budget range of those two rifles, there are many strong choices that I would pick over either of those for a beginner shooter. The Remington 5R would get a nod, as well as many of the used rifles found in the FS regularly for around $1K
DD </div></div>
Thank You! One question, the reason for chosing another option would be, easier to shoot, better quality, more forgiving?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are those the only choices?</div></div>
+1, You are severely limiting yourself by only accepting those two. Of the two you mention I would strongly recommend the .308 as well, however, in the budget range of those two rifles, there are many strong choices that I would pick over either of those for a beginner shooter. The Remington 5R would get a nod, as well as many of the used rifles found in the FS regularly for around $1K
DD </div></div>
Thank You! One question, the reason for chosing another option would be, easier to shoot, better quality, more forgiving?
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Well, there is nothing wrong with a Savage rifle, I just think you would do better to choose a different caliber than the .270 if you are serious about long range work. The .270 has great ballistics, but not as big of a following, so it doesn't have the support for bullets and brass. There are many proven and great calibers available that are doing very well in matches. .260 would be an awesome choice for the first go. but the .308 has a great adavantage over most choices because it is so readily available, and you can buy excellent quality match ammo. That said the .260 is produced by Black Hills, and the 6.5 Creedmoor can be had fairly easily for reasonable money, but finding a factory chambering might be tough.
For the same money as you can get into the DPMS, you could get a savage action, a nice stock, and a nice creedmoor barrel build. That would be one hell of a starting package...
DD
Well, there is nothing wrong with a Savage rifle, I just think you would do better to choose a different caliber than the .270 if you are serious about long range work. The .270 has great ballistics, but not as big of a following, so it doesn't have the support for bullets and brass. There are many proven and great calibers available that are doing very well in matches. .260 would be an awesome choice for the first go. but the .308 has a great adavantage over most choices because it is so readily available, and you can buy excellent quality match ammo. That said the .260 is produced by Black Hills, and the 6.5 Creedmoor can be had fairly easily for reasonable money, but finding a factory chambering might be tough.
For the same money as you can get into the DPMS, you could get a savage action, a nice stock, and a nice creedmoor barrel build. That would be one hell of a starting package...
DD
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, there is nothing wrong with a Savage rifle, I just think you would do better to choose a different caliber than the .270 if you are serious about long range work. The .270 has great ballistics, but not as big of a following, so it doesn't have the support for bullets and brass. There are many proven and great calibers available that are doing very well in matches. .260 would be an awesome choice for the first go. but the .308 has a great adavantage over most choices because it is so readily available, and you can buy excellent quality match ammo. That said the .260 is produced by Black Hills, and the 6.5 Creedmoor can be had fairly easily for reasonable money, but finding a factory chambering might be tough.
For the same money as you can get into the DPMS, you could get a savage action, a nice stock, and a nice creedmoor barrel build. That would be one hell of a starting package...
DD </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, there is nothing wrong with a Savage rifle, I just think you would do better to choose a different caliber than the .270 if you are serious about long range work. The .270 has great ballistics, but not as big of a following, so it doesn't have the support for bullets and brass. There are many proven and great calibers available that are doing very well in matches. .260 would be an awesome choice for the first go. but the .308 has a great adavantage over most choices because it is so readily available, and you can buy excellent quality match ammo. That said the .260 is produced by Black Hills, and the 6.5 Creedmoor can be had fairly easily for reasonable money, but finding a factory chambering might be tough.
For the same money as you can get into the DPMS, you could get a savage action, a nice stock, and a nice creedmoor barrel build. That would be one hell of a starting package...
DD </div></div>
Man this site kicks AS$!!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelcomp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you;re looking at a semi auto platform, I'd consider the Armalite over the DPMS. </div></div>
Why? The DPMS has a much larger following and better aftermarket support.
If you'd like my opinion I'd suggest a Remington, but I'm a bit partial since I own two of them.
Jeremiah
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelcomp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you;re looking at a semi auto platform, I'd consider the Armalite over the DPMS. </div></div>
Why? The DPMS has a much larger following and better aftermarket support.
If you'd like my opinion I'd suggest a Remington, but I'm a bit partial since I own two of them.
Jeremiah
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Knoxville</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone make a .260 rifle with a detachable mag?</div></div>
The best way is to go with an aftermarket system. If you are going with a savage rifle CDI Precision and I think D-Bull make DBM setups for them. They are typically in the $300 range and cost around $60 to have the stock inletted for them.
Dave
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Knoxville</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone make a .260 rifle with a detachable mag?</div></div>
The best way is to go with an aftermarket system. If you are going with a savage rifle CDI Precision and I think D-Bull make DBM setups for them. They are typically in the $300 range and cost around $60 to have the stock inletted for them.
Dave
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeremiahak</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelcomp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you;re looking at a semi auto platform, I'd consider the Armalite over the DPMS. </div></div>
Why? The DPMS has a much larger following and better aftermarket support.
If you'd like my opinion I'd suggest a Remington, but I'm a bit partial since I own two of them.
Jeremiah </div></div>Why? Because the Armalite is just a better platofrm for many reasons. I don't want to get into the DPMS vs Armalite debate, but what you stated above just isn't true, especially in the .308 platform. Besides, does that make a DPMS a better rifle?
For strictly long range accuracy, I agree on the bolt rifle over the semi auto, but IMO they both have their place.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeremiahak</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelcomp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you;re looking at a semi auto platform, I'd consider the Armalite over the DPMS. </div></div>
Why? The DPMS has a much larger following and better aftermarket support.
If you'd like my opinion I'd suggest a Remington, but I'm a bit partial since I own two of them.
Jeremiah </div></div>Why? Because the Armalite is just a better platofrm for many reasons. I don't want to get into the DPMS vs Armalite debate, but what you stated above just isn't true, especially in the .308 platform. Besides, does that make a DPMS a better rifle?
For strictly long range accuracy, I agree on the bolt rifle over the semi auto, but IMO they both have their place.
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For a first LR rifle, I'd say keep it simple... Rem 5R in .308, put some decent glass on top, get any other accessories you think you might like, pick up some Fed Match 168gr, an head out to the range. From there you'll be able to figure out what, if anything, you don't like.
For a first LR rifle, I'd say keep it simple... Rem 5R in .308, put some decent glass on top, get any other accessories you think you might like, pick up some Fed Match 168gr, an head out to the range. From there you'll be able to figure out what, if anything, you don't like.
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I am MORE THAN HAPPY with my LR308. If I had it all to do over again, I would have it in a 260. Ballistics aren't 100% better than the 308 but they ARE better.
Out to 600 yds the DPMS will serve you well. Fun to shoot as well! I do agree that if long range accuracy is going to be your game, then a bolt will serve you better.
How about the rem STS in 243. The 1/9.25 barrel will work fine for the hornady 105's and the ballistics and low recoil of the 243 just plain KICK ASS!!!!!
Caliber is a debate as old as time but there is an aggreance that a bolt will generally yeild better accuracy.
I am MORE THAN HAPPY with my LR308. If I had it all to do over again, I would have it in a 260. Ballistics aren't 100% better than the 308 but they ARE better.
Out to 600 yds the DPMS will serve you well. Fun to shoot as well! I do agree that if long range accuracy is going to be your game, then a bolt will serve you better.
How about the rem STS in 243. The 1/9.25 barrel will work fine for the hornady 105's and the ballistics and low recoil of the 243 just plain KICK ASS!!!!!
Caliber is a debate as old as time but there is an aggreance that a bolt will generally yeild better accuracy.
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no there is no reason not to use a supper sniper scope. I have a 5r with an AI 20 stock with a mark 4 25 power but i used my friends supper sniper for a bit they are nice for the $. A 5r goes for 1100 the stock I never liked so I went with the AI 2.0 for a 1000.
no there is no reason not to use a supper sniper scope. I have a 5r with an AI 20 stock with a mark 4 25 power but i used my friends supper sniper for a bit they are nice for the $. A 5r goes for 1100 the stock I never liked so I went with the AI 2.0 for a 1000.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelcomp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to throw a curve late in the gaame, but what about the Savage 10FP Precision? Seems to get pretty high reviews. </div></div>
I have looked at that weapon...very nice! The only thing that I dont like about the 700 5R is that it does not have a detachable mag.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steelcomp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to throw a curve late in the gaame, but what about the Savage 10FP Precision? Seems to get pretty high reviews. </div></div>
I have looked at that weapon...very nice! The only thing that I dont like about the 700 5R is that it does not have a detachable mag.
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