Meh....I still would take a Rubicon...i have had runners too...I would def take a yota over this new bronco tho
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Meh....I still would take a Rubicon...i have had runners too...I would def take a yota over this new bronco tho
why?
it has more articulation than a stock rubi. I’m sure after market will have a long travel option if that matters to you. There are pros and cons to straight axle vs ifs…
My preference and admitted bias for sure is definitely towards my years of experience driving with Dana 44s underneath. I know it's strengths/weaknesses really well and would be nervous beta testing ford's ifs on the bronco on some of the trails here in Utah. I'm sure it will perform well but I'm skeptical of the long term durability of 4 front cv joints being able to be as strong 2 sealed spicer ujoints.
I off road a 2016 expedition as well believe it or not obviously with ifs and it continues to suprise me so I think the bronco has promise. If I snapped an axel on my expy though I don't know how easily I would be able to swap in a spare on the trail vs my jeeps. Pray that it never happens haha
I've done a lot of hard wheeling in my FJ in Utah with IFS and never broke one. You're right the solid axles are obviously stronger but IFS is not that bad. I'm a big Toyota nerd so we all have our likes. But I do have to admit, when the Gladiator came out I was eyeing it up, that is a good looking rig.
I can't wait to wheel the Bronco, I have a feeling this thing is going to rock and I love the modularity of it. I think it's awesome having so many great choices. Just get what you like and get out on the trails!
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Jeep did some stupid stuff with the 392 as well.... No 2wd? Wtf...only 3.73 gears from the factory???
Oh and in my ao they want 110k for them haha
I have a '20 Gladiator and a '21 2dr Rubicon. The 2dr is much more fun to drive and being small, it fits anywhere.
Friend is buying a 392 at 6K under MSRP, still expensive be he has the coin. He has a TRX as well, those are pretty badass.
They run IFS at King of Hammers. It's as strong as you want to make it $$$. I'm just happy that locking diffs are being found on as many as these 4Wheelers now.
^^^^^^this
My '84 on Rocker Knocker in Pritchett Canyon
Right before my wedding on Lion's Back
Pat Gremillion, this is a Bronco
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Which model did she get?
I just woke up and haven't had my coffee yet but I think it's the Outer Banks, 2dr with Sasquatch package, bigger motor, and locker with better gearing. She just got notice it's done and should be here before Christmas.
That's good news. Mine is a 4 door Wildtrac hardtop sasquatch with trailer towing. No news yet.
Nice!
So they’re still using that well thought out soy based wiring cover? Yes organic insulation. The rodents and fire ants just love it. And when they eat it it’s not worth restoring the car. You are totaled….
Aren’t you folks lucky those Broncos aren’t home yet being eaten by rodents.
But the plastic is organic! It doesn’t use that evil black stuff from the ground. You know oil. That by definition is the purest form of organic because it’s a carbon-based Molecule.
Soy wiring probably doesn’t send out mean tweets either.
Ah hahahaha..
Sirhr
Don't hold your breath
My buddy is a product line exec at Ford Corporate....he has no answers for the Bronco
I have no dog in this fight, the new bronco is trash, they never should have revived the name for that POS.
I ordered a new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon for my youngest daughter in September last year, expected it to take a couple months to show up at the dealer, it was there in less than three weeks, built exactly to spec that I (we) ordered...of course I was TDY for a couple more weeks, so she didn't get to pick it up until I got home.
I ordered a new Jeep Wrangler Rubicon for my youngest daughter in September last year, expected it to take a couple months to show up at the dealer, it was there in less than three weeks, built exactly to spec that I (we) ordered...of course I was TDY for a couple more weeks, so she didn't get to pick it up until I got home.
There is a huge difference between the bronco "sport" which is actually just a rebodied escape I believe and the real "Bronco"
The real Bronco has shown that it is a very very competitive competition to the Wrangler.
To build a comparable "bronco" to what I had built for my daughter's Rubicon, the bronco is a little more than $2k extra...and it's still a Ford. I'll stick with Jeeps, we have 4 of them at the moment, my 2-door JK Rubicon, wife's 4-door JK Rubicon, Cowkid1's 4-door JK Sahara, and Cowkid2's new JL Rubicon.
Had to cancel the jeep order after driving the new Bronco. So glad the jeep didn’t come in. Junk compared to the Bronco. But we might wait a year to see if the deliveries and stupid pricing gets better.
Bronco Sport is probably as good or a little better than any of the Jeeps... Well, the Grand Cherokee is a bit better. Bronco Sport is horrible too though. Wranglers are just noisy uncomfortable gutless turds. We see a lot of them at the High Schools, great high school girl car I guess.
Think he can push along my F350 order...
You got jokes, I get it.
No, I didn’t get the Wrangler. Thank god because that would have been a bad joke. Dodged that bullet. Some might like the Jeeps but for road driving they suck.You got jokes, I get it.
4-door Jk Wranglers do 110+ mph on the highway...my 2-door JK is governed at 100mph...sad, really, because it gets to 100 pretty quick. I drive my 2-door Rubicon like it's a sports car on the road, it's fun passing actual sports cars in the curves. A man has to know his limitations...I also pass crotch rocket sport bikes on my Street Glide. Thanks for letting everyone know you're a pussy. Enjoy your ford escort, hope you have a cell phone so you can call a tow truck when you get a flat tire.
The new Broncos are fucking junk. My girlfriend and I test drove a badlands edition when she was shopping for a new vehicle last year and it was terrible. The lane wander from the slightest touch of the steering wheel might have actually been worse than a wrangler. The road and wind noise with the hard top was unreal, at secondary road speeds (35-45) we had to talk pretty loudly. There is also ZERO air flow to the back seat (at least on the 2 door).
Wranglers aren’t much better if at all especially with that piece of shit V6 drivetrain they’ve been putting in them. I bought a lightly used one a few years ago and it ended up with my attorney writing the dealer a demand letter to buy it back, which they did.
Toyota all the way if you want something that actually has a reliable drivetrain and a vehicle that isn’t going to start falling apart in the first couple years.
Wranglers aren’t much better if at all especially with that piece of shit V6 drivetrain they’ve been putting in them. I bought a lightly used one a few years ago and it ended up with my attorney writing the dealer a demand letter to buy it back, which they did.
Toyota all the way if you want something that actually has a reliable drivetrain and a vehicle that isn’t going to start falling apart in the first couple years.
When did you order your f350? What trim?
I ordered mine May 5 and got it Dec 22. My salesman manager asked ford what the hold up wad is September. It turned out my truck had not been scheduled because I ordered the spray in bedliner and Tonto cover. Deleted those two options and got it scheduled.
Just want to say I'm amazed at the inflated prices people are paying today for mass produced vehicles. I can say there is nothing mass produced today that I would spend $50K plus on. These vehicles are at least $10K-$15K overpriced.
I do own a Jeep Rubicon edition and it has been fairly reliable with 20K miles on it. But the build quality is sub-par for the money. But we are talking about Chrysler and Fiat after all. I also own a Toyota Tundra and the difference in build quality and components is obvious. If I were going to buy another vehicle today it would be a 4Runner, don't give a fuck if it won't do Moab in stock form. l don't plan on taking a $50K vehicle up a rock garden, but that's just me.
I do own a Jeep Rubicon edition and it has been fairly reliable with 20K miles on it. But the build quality is sub-par for the money. But we are talking about Chrysler and Fiat after all. I also own a Toyota Tundra and the difference in build quality and components is obvious. If I were going to buy another vehicle today it would be a 4Runner, don't give a fuck if it won't do Moab in stock form. l don't plan on taking a $50K vehicle up a rock garden, but that's just me.
Grampa, back in his day bought a coffee for a dime. That dime was made from silver. Then Grandpa could walk into the gunshop and buy a pre64 model 70 for a couple hundred.
But the dime you're spending is not made from silver, and the dollar you're spending has been inflated by 60 years of out of control government spending.
So yeah the sticker on my F350 was 90k. That's just the way it is. Remember that when you charge your customers.
Ordered a Lariat with Ultimate package. 5th wheel prep is on constraint right now, but lots of trucks getting built with it even though its on constraint. Im not willing to delete it. I skipped the spray in liner as ill get that done locally... on constraint also, but lots of trucks getting built with it anyway. So actually hard to tell whats REALLY on constraint and what Ford says... I mean a Ford constraint might be "well we need 1000, but only are getting 800, so...constraint"... NOW when they list stuff as "no availability" then yea you are shit out of luck on that scheduling window.
I didnt order until Nov 17th... hoping to get into the next build cycle which is scheduling next week. I ordered from Granger in Iowa. They are supposedly through basically all of their September orders and some October. There is likely 50-75 trucks in front of me. They get about 75 build allocations per cycle(1.5-2 months long).
BUT a Ford Exec pushing my build ahead of others wouldnt bother me LOL...
There are 2 trucks locally on lots that interest me, dealer willing to sell at MSRP... both are 250's though... one loaded lariat with 7.3 and the other a loaded lariat with 6.7... first one is 71k, second is 78k... my ordered truck(loaded lariat 7.3 minus moonroof) is only 64k(invoice -2%)... so its hard to spend a lot more money for sort of what I ordered because I am impatient. Im stuck on the 250 vs. 350 thing though because we are planning a slide in camper AND a SuperHitch setup to tow our boat at the same time... That setup would RAVAGE a 250's payload "rating"...
Mine had fifth wheel/gooseneck prep, so they are trickling them through the process.
Did you know they changed the receiver to 3"? They did give me an adaptor sleeve. But I did not like that idea so I got a:
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You're entitled to your opinion. But---Toyota?
All diesels have 3" hitch. I think they have since either 2017 or definitely 2020. Mine will have 2.5" hitch since I ordered a gasser. Only 7.3 DRW get 3" hitch.
Not true at all... You ordered a 2022... you wont just "magically" get a 2023... Your 2022 order would cancel and you would have to re-order and be stuck with any 2023 price adjustments. Ford MAY give people in this situation like a 2000 dollar rebate to make it right, but they also might not. 2023 is rumored to have external sheet metal changes and the full 2021 F150 interior.
Also the speculation from the 2-3 guys "in the know" is that 2022 production will likely run into the fall vs. the traditional ~June 1 changeover. Ford has ~250k orders for super duty at any given time and they can build about 8500 per week, so a 7 month backlog at any given time. I wouldnt expect any 2023's to get built until at least September at this point. NOW will there be 2022's that ford doesnt build due to commodity constraints, sure, but I think the majority of 2022's ordered will get built.
But an XL will likely get built really quickly, I have seen some with like less than 2 month turn around. Its the higher optioned trucks that take a while. Im 99% sure your truck will be a 2022 and wont take all that long to get.
My dealer also has two Broncos that he can't sell for some period of time. Instead of putting them on the showroom floor he put them in his loaner fleet. He says a lot of those service loans have turned into Bronco orders.
I don't know where your info is coming from but my Bronco has crossed model years and I have an email from ford promising to hold price.
