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I guess the Republicans are upset that they somehow didn't loose the election.
They are trying their best to make sure the Democrats win all the next elections.
Unless they have some other plan or reason for pissing off all their supporters and doing what those that hate them passionately want.
They are trying their best to make sure the Democrats win all the next elections.
Unless they have some other plan or reason for pissing off all their supporters and doing what those that hate them passionately want.
Yea, this one is getting under my skin hard.
Look I am not happy one little bit about the ban. But on a second level it is even worse than it would appear.
Owners will have 30-60-90 days (I can't remember which right now, but one of those 3) to turn in their bump stocks or destroy them personally.
No reimbursement from the Gov at all.
Now again, I am not for the ban at all. That aside I have always felt one issue from an out right ban was that the cost would be in the billions of dollars and that was kind of an extra brick in the wall. Maybe with no mortar, but was there. Canada and Australia spent a lot more than expected.
With that, I wish someone would take this ban to court, at least on those grounds.
I could see (again do not agree with it) if they were reclassified as NFA items.
This sets a precedent for property confiscation from people BEFORE they are actually criminals.
Not happy, not one damn bit.
Look I am not happy one little bit about the ban. But on a second level it is even worse than it would appear.
Owners will have 30-60-90 days (I can't remember which right now, but one of those 3) to turn in their bump stocks or destroy them personally.
No reimbursement from the Gov at all.
Now again, I am not for the ban at all. That aside I have always felt one issue from an out right ban was that the cost would be in the billions of dollars and that was kind of an extra brick in the wall. Maybe with no mortar, but was there. Canada and Australia spent a lot more than expected.
With that, I wish someone would take this ban to court, at least on those grounds.
I could see (again do not agree with it) if they were reclassified as NFA items.
This sets a precedent for property confiscation from people BEFORE they are actually criminals.
Not happy, not one damn bit.
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Right, history has shown time and time again, gun owners hold grudges and will drop you like a hot potato. The left on the other hand isn't going to come to their rescue.
Yeah. This doesn't pass at least two Constitutional sniff tests. Not that they give a shit about upholding and defending it, let alone recognizing the benefits that we should be able to derive from it. I'm galled that they think that they can seize property without even kissing us on the cheek with compensation.
That's what's interesting to me. Do they really think thousand of people are going to just turn them over? There is no registry for bump stocks to my knowledge. They're losing relection with this one. Is he serious about doing this? Or this one of those same, watch this hand while the other...
They'll seize company records from the few firms that made them, if they haven't already. What's funny is that many of them may conceivably have already been resold for cash. I'm sure that those buying them quietly will do the honorable thing and turn them in for the political currency of some dishonorable sons of bitches.
Trump? At this point, I'd just about sooner see crazy bitch Maxine Waters in the Oval Office come 2021. At least her agenda is fucking obvious.
They will be able to track who bought bump stocks as about as well as who bought plastic Solo cups.......LOL Good luck with that!
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Do you seriously believe that the government couldn't find a way to scare up a paper trail on your credit purchases for the last four or five years?
Forgot the fact that a Lot could have been bought with cash, do I think they could if they really wanted to put the effort into tracking the purchases by CC or Debit cards? Yea they probably could, but I don't believe it's as easy as one might think and I also don't think that is a tactic they are willing to admit to just yet. As fucked up as our justice system is right now I still don't think that is a road they're willing to go down right now.
I guess it's time to start calling our congress critters and swampy senators and suggest that come next election cycle they will find themselves in the outhouse of the country club they so like. Perhaps remind them of what happened to the democrat party for 14 years after Clinton passed his AWB.
I will say however when the whole bump stock thing first started becoming popular, I told everyone asking about them that I wasn't going to buy one but if I did, I'd only ever buy one in cash at a gun show and never post pictures of it.
I am fairly sure if this gets rammed through the ATF and FBI will "encourage" all the manufacturers & distributes to turn over their paperwork and I wouldn't be surprised if some people who bought them online and had them shipped to their houses get some official letters "reminding" them that they need to "give them up" uncompensated of course "for the children"...
So much for Trump getting a second term, perhaps he doesn't really want one.
However somebody should probably let Pence know that this will ruin his chances for the top spot, he has enough ambition to possibly explain to Trump the error of his ways.
I will say however when the whole bump stock thing first started becoming popular, I told everyone asking about them that I wasn't going to buy one but if I did, I'd only ever buy one in cash at a gun show and never post pictures of it.
I am fairly sure if this gets rammed through the ATF and FBI will "encourage" all the manufacturers & distributes to turn over their paperwork and I wouldn't be surprised if some people who bought them online and had them shipped to their houses get some official letters "reminding" them that they need to "give them up" uncompensated of course "for the children"...
So much for Trump getting a second term, perhaps he doesn't really want one.
However somebody should probably let Pence know that this will ruin his chances for the top spot, he has enough ambition to possibly explain to Trump the error of his ways.
Hi,
TRUMP warned us about himself in regards to this such thing years and years ago in his book "The America We Deserve"!!!
Did you all think he changed his philosophy on Gun ownership and 2A...??
Edit To Add:
The Federal Register listed (Months Ago) this as the main order of business of the BATFE for 2018 Fall agenda. IF you follow the Federal Register at all you will see the pattern of "Once it is in there, you can count on it happening".
Sincerely,
Theis
TRUMP warned us about himself in regards to this such thing years and years ago in his book "The America We Deserve"!!!
Did you all think he changed his philosophy on Gun ownership and 2A...??
Edit To Add:
The Federal Register listed (Months Ago) this as the main order of business of the BATFE for 2018 Fall agenda. IF you follow the Federal Register at all you will see the pattern of "Once it is in there, you can count on it happening".
Sincerely,
Theis
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Wonder when binary triggers will come under fire. Or 3G triggers. Or any Geissele trigger.
They're gonna push me to the point where I say "fuck it' and strap on a flamethrower. That's not regulated, no laws, no nothing. But it's easily 10x more dangerous than any firearm. But hey, that's what they want! Well, they want mindless subservient peons, but they're just not gonna get that from this crowd alive.
No firearms = improvised weapons and bombs. It's a no-brainer. But I don't expect the same idiots that come up with gun control to grasp that, they can't figure out their clip from their asshole. Those simply are the motherfuckers that have to learn stuff the hard way, and they drag us along with 'em.
They're gonna push me to the point where I say "fuck it' and strap on a flamethrower. That's not regulated, no laws, no nothing. But it's easily 10x more dangerous than any firearm. But hey, that's what they want! Well, they want mindless subservient peons, but they're just not gonna get that from this crowd alive.
No firearms = improvised weapons and bombs. It's a no-brainer. But I don't expect the same idiots that come up with gun control to grasp that, they can't figure out their clip from their asshole. Those simply are the motherfuckers that have to learn stuff the hard way, and they drag us along with 'em.
the new democratic gov. of Nevada sez he is coming after suppressors...........................
lol...come and take them.
lol...come and take them.
The two bump stocks that I purchased I sold a while back to a guy at one of the public ranges I go to I can't remember his name and I haven't seen him there in a very long time.
Meanwhile, the Left is unimpressed.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...nce-bump-stock-ban-a-meaningless-gesture.html
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...nce-bump-stock-ban-a-meaningless-gesture.html
Sure they could, buy that doesn’t mean that the original owner still has said stock either. No way to track it past the original purchaser. So ifsome were smart they would have realized this and got someone else to order it. To my knowledge there is no record keeping on individual sell of such items. So tracking the original owner won’t get them far, but the original owner best have gotten rid of it. Canada inplemented the bait and switch well when they tried the whole registry thing. To me, this is unacceptable and should be a flashpoint. If they can take your stuff with no compensation then they can do the same for your firearms. It’s coming if they get away with this.
This ain’t going to do shit. They dont fucking care, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing it now.
It’s coming. I don’t really care to make a stand over bumpstocks but it needs to happen because it sets a precedent, much in the same way the illegals had to be met with opposition at the border. If we don’t fight this now, it will get worse. Guys we must find a way to mobilize against this nonsense.
There are several stocks listed for sale on local for sale forums, one as low as $75 FTF. Getting ride of before they lose more money.
With people getting pissed at congress about this, I’m not aware of any bill banning bump stocks. I’ve searched and can’t find a bill introduced in either the senate or house. Congress has nothing to do with this.
It sounds like Trump is doing this via executive over reach. Kind of like how Trump wanted to get rid of the 14th amendment via executive order, he is flying solo with this shit sandwich.
It sounds like Trump is doing this via executive over reach. Kind of like how Trump wanted to get rid of the 14th amendment via executive order, he is flying solo with this shit sandwich.
Hi,
@tomcatfan
And how long do you think it will take before we find out it all stems from a deal he made/making with Nancy for her Speaker spot....???
Sincerely,
Theis
@tomcatfan
And how long do you think it will take before we find out it all stems from a deal he made/making with Nancy for her Speaker spot....???
Sincerely,
Theis
I have no idea. But until then I’m going to put 100% of the blame here on Trump. If you want to talk about the hearing protection act dying, sure let’s hate on congress. But if this goes through, Trump would have done more on gun control in 2 years than Obama did in 8. 2a supporter my ass.
If some nutcase is shooting at me from 100-200 yards away, I hope like hell they are using a bumpstock. It one of the most detrimental devices to accuracy I can think of, plus one of the most effective ammunition wasters there is. I'll take my precision aimed fire for the win against a nutcase with a bumpstock.
Not to mention it was used a grand total of one time in a shooting spree, so let's pass legislation so we can all sleep better at night. I really like some of what Trump has done, but I am starting to get the feeling he would throw the Constitution in the shredder if he can get a perceived win in his eyes.
Allegedly used,,,, we dont really know what that Hilary voter used to kill the Trump voters do we?
It isn't a matter of a range such as you're suggesting.
Not the best example, and a nervous and unprepared subject:
Somewhat less "Joe Bob":
The only solution to this is to ban all magazine fed, semi automatic firearms. Good luck with that.
The majority will be sitting there watching cable TV pablum, slack-jawed and drooling, as the last vestiges of the Republic are dismantled. Don't hold your breath waiting for a Bastille moment.
Well you would have to be blind to not see Binary triggers and Pistol Braces are next. Lots and lots of people have jumped on the pistol brace. We will see how many of those get thrown in trash at roughly $200 each.
Yep, I'm pretty sure both of those things that were pretty much putting a firm naughty foot over the line are going to be next on the chopping block.
This is going to be a bit crazy.
Obama's administration okays all this stuff.
Trump's administration bans it
Are we in bizzaro world yet or not?
nope both the deep state marxists get what they want no matter what the voters say.
Yep. I never bought into that mess anyways. That’s one reason it needs to be a concrete decision that is set in stone. This whole ATF can reevaluate whenever they want is BS. Same goes for USSC decisions.
if you want to make it illegal fine, but the stuff I bought legal should be grandfathered in..................................
I completely agree with this. I don't really care whether they are illegal or not, but it is not fair to have people just lose money on them when they bought them 100% legal.
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