Is that the edelmans in Farmingdale NY?
Bought a few rifles there, that was a regular stop
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Bought a few rifles there, that was a regular stop
Yes. Farmingdale is also where Shilo Sharps was originally from.
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I’m not sure honestly. I traded a guy for this pistol, and he deals with a lot of estate stuff, so it could have came from there. I came across it in Raliegh, NC though.
Oh... then you didn't get the "lifetime warranty" reference. For an extra $25 or so you could buy one for any gun you bought. Don't know if anyone ever collected. lol I have a couple for guns my dad bought there in the 70s.
I have one of the new 1895 Saddle Ring carbines that commemorates the 100th anniversary of the 30-06, the bottom point was the only part that would contact my shoulder. It hurt so bad to shoot that I ended up replacing the stock with a shotgun style stock that is significantly more comfortable to shoot.
I’ll have to take a look at that video as there are some crescent stocked rifles I like that I have passed on because I do not like to shoot that style stock.
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That’s interesting for sure.Oh... then you didn't get the "lifetime warranty" reference. For an extra $25 or so you could buy one for any gun you bought. Don't know if anyone ever collected. lol I have a couple for guns my dad bought there in the 70s.
I'm going to jump on the carved, extra fancy maple, Woods Runner, Kibler. I've spent hours looking through the Track of the Wolf catalog, and it's overwhelming. I don't mind doing the work, but I don't want to waste 6 months trying to get all the right shit together with half of it on backorder. That they offer a kit with a CNC lock and fine wood is well enough to sell me!
What bluing kit are you using? I know how to make the extra fancy maple stock pop, and make the brass look good, but I am not hands-on familiar with the bluing process for the steel. Does anyone DIY hot bluing, or is cold the only home process? I guess I don't want to make it Colt Python silky, but I also don't want it to look like backwoods gunsmithing bullshit... I am not wed to "authentic", I just want it to look as good as it can look, because the stock should be out of this world. I have several ideas for an inlay and some wire work I will add. Just need some guidance on the steel.
You want to use Browning on it.
Birch wood Casey or similar plum brown. Most authentic.
There are other browning solutions in TOTW. But BC is easy to find and predictable. Good YouTube videos on browning.
Also use aqua fortis and a heat gun to bring g grain out. And oil finish.
Cheers, Sirhr
Have you tried the tanic acid before the iron nitrite?
I've browned a few things... but never the right things. 
A Stevens bolt action .22, an SKS, an AK receiver and this cylinder.
A Stevens bolt action .22, an SKS, an AK receiver and this cylinder.
I have used aquafortis on knife and hawk handles. Both of my flints were done with it. You can’t go wrong with it on a curly maple stock.
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Nice piece.. is that the original stock?? Thanks,,,working on a very similar project…
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I'm at the salt mines right now...
I'll try to remember to get some pics of my babies when I get home. I have a Bedford county in .45 flint and a "poor boy" smoothbore.
I've been kicking around the idea of trying to duplicate the Timothy Murphy shot that killed Gen. Fraser at the battle of Saratoga... Accounts differ but it was somewhere around 250-300 yards.
Mike
I'll try to remember to get some pics of my babies when I get home. I have a Bedford county in .45 flint and a "poor boy" smoothbore.
I've been kicking around the idea of trying to duplicate the Timothy Murphy shot that killed Gen. Fraser at the battle of Saratoga... Accounts differ but it was somewhere around 250-300 yards.
Mike
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Thanks. Original stock was in bad shape, that is a Boyds I refinished.
I've built 3 and all of them have been Jim Chambers kits. Started on a whim as a Traditions kids for a Christmas present from my wife but soon realized that there is a big difference in quality of kits. Chambers kits are a lot of work and I was way over my skis at first, put over 250 hours into my first rifle and was down to about 100 for my third. They are a 54 cal, 40 cal and 20 ga fowler. Flinters are a hoot to shoot but very humbling...
You did a great job on those though! Nice rifles and beautiful work.
I thought that I’d add some Rendezvous photos. A variety of muzzle loaders.
50 cal percussion Kentucky Rifle
Son at a BSA Shooting Sports event with a 1/4 scale Carronade.
50 cal Flintlock Trapper pistol.
50 cal percussion Kentucky Rifle
Son at a BSA Shooting Sports event with a 1/4 scale Carronade.
50 cal Flintlock Trapper pistol.
50 cal TC Hawken
Bison target at 235 yards and +75’ elevation from the “horse”
Just got back from our 29th anniversary at a Rendezvous! I didn’t cover myself in glory, but Memsahib did!
She took first in Ladies Pistol with a perfect score of 13/13 and an Awesome Tie breaker.
Pardon the orientation,
.62 cal carronade loaded with 110g FFg
She took first in Ladies Pistol with a perfect score of 13/13 and an Awesome Tie breaker.
Pardon the orientation,
.62 cal carronade loaded with 110g FFg
A couple shots of this morning’s Cannon Line
My father in law gave me his Traditions .50 caliber inline muzzle loader about 4 years ago, and my son and I only recently shot it for the first time. We've used sabots with .44 caliber XTP's and .45 caliber truncated cone bullets I cast and powder coated for my 45acp, all with Pyrodex pellets.
Yesterday we went to my friends farm and did some black powder shooting to get ready for deer season. I had bought some .495" lead balls and lubed patches to try, and with one pellet they were quite accurate at 50 yards. My friend told me that I would get better accuracy with one pellet instead of two since it's a 1:32 twist.
I don't know Jack about this stuff, so I'm taking him at his word. Since my farthest shot at a deer on my place will be within 50 yards, I'm happy with it.
I am considering trying some loose powder instead of the pellets, just to see how it does. I can fine tune the charge weight and experiment, which should be fun.
This is my son after shooting it for the first time about three weeks ago.
Yesterday we went to my friends farm and did some black powder shooting to get ready for deer season. I had bought some .495" lead balls and lubed patches to try, and with one pellet they were quite accurate at 50 yards. My friend told me that I would get better accuracy with one pellet instead of two since it's a 1:32 twist.
I don't know Jack about this stuff, so I'm taking him at his word. Since my farthest shot at a deer on my place will be within 50 yards, I'm happy with it.
I am considering trying some loose powder instead of the pellets, just to see how it does. I can fine tune the charge weight and experiment, which should be fun.
This is my son after shooting it for the first time about three weeks ago.
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Has anybody here built a Baker rifle? What kind of powder charge does it take?
Loose powder isn't as fast or convenient as the pellets... But, yes, it will allow you to fine tune your load better.
Like any other hand loading regimen, consistency is the key to repeatable results... Doing everything the same every time and only changing one variable at a time will yield the best results.
Mike
Not built one, but here’s some info including standardized British charge weight. This would be for FFG powder, most likely.
2nd Bn. 95th Rifles :: Rifle
History of the Baker Rifle, or British Infantry Rifle, 1800-1815
www.95th-rifles.co.uk The Rifle Shoppe sells kits. But beware, they are rough and they no longer assemble/finish locks. Plus their communication is appalling.
But neat guns. Technically they are the Pattern 1800. Named after Ezekiel Baker who designs the rifling for that gun.
Cheers,Sirhr
Before opening day of Pennsylvania early muzzleloader season we decided a photo of the arsenal at camp was necessary 
ps, two days after I took this photo the smoothbore, third from the top, took a nice fat doe.
I had forgotten about this. Here they are... Bedford on top. Smoothie on the bottom.
Mike
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While not as old as most here, this is my 100k serial tc hawken with target sights I installed. I built this wedge for quick elevation stops and it works like magic. I scribe the wedge once I validate the load and range. I am very repeatable at 300yards and before long should be solid into the 600's.
@sirhrmechanic
Found this and thought of you. A lot of stuff about front stuffing artillery.
Found it here
Found this and thought of you. A lot of stuff about front stuffing artillery.
Found it here
"Hunting" today (aka bored, freezing, sitting in the snow), I wanted to take an ironic traditional muzzle loading photo.
Excellent!
But to really be traditional, you should be using a Nokia flip phone!
Sirhr
Tryon?
Yep. 1980 production, I bought well used and "customized"/altered. Probably over paid, but I did so because someone else had already done "wrong" things to it, so I didn't have to feel bad about doing them myself.
I sent the barrel out this spring to have it made into a .58 round ball shooter. I like it a lot more now. When it was a fifty, with my few range trips of experimenting, the thing it shot the best was sabots & pistol bullets. And while they were my own cast 300gr HP's, I just could not abide by the whole idea, it was just one thing too much. It now shoots MUCH better than I ever got it shoot as a .50. It was loved, someone used the heck out of it, so there was probably some combination of things it liked, but I bought it with the intention of having it re-bored. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't ruining something amazing before having it opened up, I tried balls, a whole bunch of different lead bullet styles, as well as a few sabot styles with pistol bullets. I wasn't exactly disappointed when it didn't "wow" me with anything. It certainly shot good enough to hunt with, but was thoroughly unimpressive.
I sent the barrel out this spring to have it made into a .58 round ball shooter. I like it a lot more now. When it was a fifty, with my few range trips of experimenting, the thing it shot the best was sabots & pistol bullets. And while they were my own cast 300gr HP's, I just could not abide by the whole idea, it was just one thing too much. It now shoots MUCH better than I ever got it shoot as a .50. It was loved, someone used the heck out of it, so there was probably some combination of things it liked, but I bought it with the intention of having it re-bored. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't ruining something amazing before having it opened up, I tried balls, a whole bunch of different lead bullet styles, as well as a few sabot styles with pistol bullets. I wasn't exactly disappointed when it didn't "wow" me with anything. It certainly shot good enough to hunt with, but was thoroughly unimpressive.
Way out in the mountains, found me the straightest dang tree I ever did see.
And the cursed sap lines.
And the cursed sap lines.
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Have you tried minié balls in the new bore?
I have not. I don’t know exactly what the twist is but I told Bobby Hoyt I wanted it as a dedicated round ball shooter. When I don’t screw up (and load consistently) it puts them all in one ragged mass at 50 yards.
Funny I didn’t think to try some or bring some with me hunting for a fast reload follow up shot. Though the elevation would no doubt be vey different.
Funny I didn’t think to try some or bring some with me hunting for a fast reload follow up shot. Though the elevation would no doubt be vey different.
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For anyone who has been looking for a kit or some amazing finished front-stuffers... The folks at AZ Muzzleloaders are auctioning off the estate of Doc White of Green River Rifle Works. Doc was a legend in the contemporary longrifle world and was builder and collector of some prime vintage pieces. There are a couple of interesting Rifle Shoppe kits (including a Nock... without the 2 year wait and lousy communications). And many pieces both antique and contemporary. Some double rifle kits. Some 'stock blank' kits and some 'mostly finished stock' kits. Pistols...
Not associated with either AZ Muzzleloaders or Doc White's family. But some folks here have expressed interest in a first gun or an amazing kit... Check out the listings!! They are a good seller, BTW. I have bought from them before.
You owe yourself a Christmas present, don't you?
Sirhr
Not associated with either AZ Muzzleloaders or Doc White's family. But some folks here have expressed interest in a first gun or an amazing kit... Check out the listings!! They are a good seller, BTW. I have bought from them before.
You owe yourself a Christmas present, don't you?
Sirhr
While it's not old it's a lot of fun and is becoming a new thing to learn. My dad gave me his Pedersoli 1874 45-70 earlier this year. We haven't shot black powder in it ever just smokeless.
After playing with this it has me looking at a 1900s built Winchester highwall in 38-55 that's here in town. I am really interested in BPCR now.
After playing with this it has me looking at a 1900s built Winchester highwall in 38-55 that's here in town. I am really interested in BPCR now.
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Big fan of the 1874, so much so that I even convinced my wife that we should drive an hour and a half out of the way on our honeymoon so that I could visit Shiloh and C Sharps.
I got one off gunbroker a decade ago and finally got to use it on a bison last year.