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Frustrated with Accutrigger on Savage 10PC

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BravoSix

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I purchased a 10PC in .308 about 1.5 years ago. I have had consistent problems with the accutrigger locking up when closing the bolt unless being extremely gentle. I tried multiple "fixes" for this found online, like increasing the pull weight, etc. Nothing really fixed the problem.

I purchased a SSS trigger, since it seemed to get the best reviews online. I dremeled the trigger to fit. Then I dremeled the bolt stop to function with the SSS trigger, only to find out that the SSS trigger will not fit in an accustock with the triggerguard bolt release.

I did the mods that are outlined in this post: http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php?topic=34406.0;wap2

After butchering the bolt release button and button retainer, the bolt release does not work at all.

Now I'm on the savage website ordering replacement parts for the ones that I dremeled trying to get the SSS trigger to work.

At this point I think I'm just going to re-install the accutrigger and sell the rifle unless I can find an aftermarket trigger that will work with a 10PC with accustock and triggerguard bolt release. Can anyone tell me if there is a decent aftermarket trigger that will definitely work with my rifle?
 
#2
Re: Frustrated with Accutrigger on Savage 10PC

The only other trigger I've found are Rifle Basix triggers. I'm in the same boat my friend, my rifle is getting sold soon.
 
#3
Re: Frustrated with Accutrigger on Savage 10PC

Have you considered sending the rifle to savage (or a smith that does accutrigger work) to have your trigger tuned up? It i common for non-target accutriggers to "lock up" unless the bolt is closed gently - when trigger pull is turned down to about 1lb. If you can't achieve 1.5-2lb pull without the "lock up" problem, there is something wrong with the sear/trigger geometry and it should get fixed.
 
#4
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Send it back to savage once you get the new parts and accutrigger back in it.

Mine had issues when the trigger was at its lowest setting. I turned it up to a little over 2 lbs and I can slam the bolt home as hard as I want.
 
#5
Re: Frustrated with Accutrigger on Savage 10PC

I have no problems with my accutrigger and it's pretty light. i'd say about 2-2.5lbs, but have never actually checked it. I can hammer on the bolt and it doesn't fail. I don't have the accustock, but never had any problems at this time with close to 400rds on the gun. I agree with taking it to someone, experienced, with Savage or send it back to them after installing the new parts. I bet they're gonna wonder about the new parts though, however, I don't think they'd say anything. You might try getting a hold of Fred at SSS, which is easier said then done. Other then that, Riflebasix has a trigger listed to replace the accutrigger, but I have no experience with it.
 
#7
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GSRswapandslow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i had a post...it was deleted...
but like i said before...remove the blade. it's a saftey that's not really all that necessary, and caused more harm than good on my rifle. </div></div>

I highly advise against this, and I seriously question your credentials, for suggesting such a thing.

The blade (actually called the "accu-release") serves to catch the sear, (which prevents rifle discharge!!!) in the event the sear accidentally/inadvertently becomes disconnected from the trigger.

Each time someone's accurelease "locked up" when closing the bolt would have been an ACCIDENTAL/NEGLIGENT discharge if the accurelease had been removed.

As all of us Savage owners understand and realize, the sear/trigger engagement of the accutrigger system is very delicate and sensitive. Removing the safety catch is really, really, really asking for an AD/ND.

Think long and hard before removing this safety.
 
#8
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I removed the blade on my 93r17 with no problems due to the same problem the op is having. I have over 300 rounds through it, I can slam the bolt shut and bang the stock on the ground without tripping the trigger. I would take it to a gunsmith and have them look at it or send it to Savage.
 
#10
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GSRswapandslow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i had a post...it was deleted...
but like i said before...remove the blade. it's a saftey that's not really all that necessary, and caused more harm than good on my rifle. </div></div>

I highly advise against this, and I seriously question your credentials, for suggesting such a thing.

The blade (actually called the "accu-release") serves to catch the sear, (which prevents rifle discharge!!!) in the event the sear accidentally/inadvertently becomes disconnected from the trigger.

Each time someone's accurelease "locked up" when closing the bolt would have been an ACCIDENTAL/NEGLIGENT discharge if the accurelease had been removed.

As all of us Savage owners understand and realize, the sear/trigger engagement of the accutrigger system is very delicate and sensitive. Removing the safety catch is really, really, really asking for an AD/ND.

Think long and hard before removing this safety. </div></div>

Don't think long and hard about it totally forget doing it!!!

If turning it up doesn't sort it get it looked at
 
#11
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bradu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I removed the blade on my 93r17 with no problems due to the same problem the op is having. I have over 300 rounds through it, I can slam the bolt shut and bang the stock on the ground without tripping the trigger. I would take it to a gunsmith and have them look at it or send it to Savage. </div></div>

Just because you "can", doesn't mean you "should". Words of wisdom.

In my personal experience, as well as the knowledge I've gleaned from MANY other Savage shooters, is that a common issue with the Savage accutrigger is that over time, it's trigger pull weight changes. Each rifle seems to have its own unique rate of deterioration. Mine needs to have the trigger adjusted every ~500-600 rounds.

My point is that you could remove the accurelease (blade), and set your trigger to a point where you can slam the bolt shut - and have a TEMPORARILY safe rifle. In time, as the sear/trigger engagment wears, you'll end up with a surprise that neither YOU or the person/thing you accidentally shoot wants.

All that said, I am not intimately familiar with the rimfire accutrigger, as I am with the centerfire one. Perhaps the rimfire trigger is safer in this regard.
 
#12
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Thanks, everyone. I appreciate your feedback, but I will not own a rifle with an accutrigger. It has a great feel when it's working, but I would rather have a trigger that I know is 100% reliable. I tried raising the pull weight of mine as high as it would go and I still get lock-up when I slam the bolt shut. This never happens to me with a 98 Mauser and a $40 Timney that has a nice crisp trigger, so I will never trust the accutrigger design.

I also tried shimming the stock for the pins and other "fixes" that are posted online. None worked.

I sent an email to Rifle Basix asking them to confirm that a SAV-1 will work with a accustock / trigger guard bolt release. Hopefully they will respond back. If they do, I will post that info.

If I can't find an aftermarket trigger that will work, I will either sell the rifle or keep it with the SSS trigger in it knowing I have to remove the stock to remove the bolt.

I am really regretting choosing a Savage right now.
 
#13
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BravoSix, don't sell it brother... there is a cure. I have the Accustocked rifle, just like you. I have the SSS trigger, just like you. The only difference that I can tell from reading your posts is, I actually ground the pin down on the SSS trigger, and didn't modify my trigger housing.

I did the modifications to the trigger itself, and mine works like a champ. Don't give up on a great rifle. Jeff @ CDI has a bolt release tab that you add onto the sear to allow the bolt to be removed from inside the trigger guard.

I am actually using a stiff feeler guage to depress the bolt release. It works. True, it's not as good as the actual release, but it works none the less.

DK
 
#14
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Right when you noticed the issue you should have phoned savage and had them fix it. plain and simple. On the other hand, this must only happen to a select few of the accutriggers, because I have a 10 PC in 308, and have my trigger on the lightest setting, and I can slam the bolt all I want and it will not lock up. I can even make a video of it if you don't believe me. Now, my rifle is bedded, and it definitely feels more solid, whether or not the vibrations transfer down to your trigger because its not bedded I don't know, sounds like fishing for a fix I know, but Im just saying mine works. and btw, I love my accutrigger, clean, light and crisp pull.
 
#15
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i have several accutrigger models...none with the blade and never once have i had, or any of my various friends with removed blades, had an ND. I can slam the bolt as hard as i want...and it will uncock the gun, but never has this resulted in an ND. I will continue to do as such for any gun that comes with the accutrigger as well.
 
#16
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Z71Rat: Thanks for the head's-up on the CDI bolt release tab. I will look into that. Can you post pics or a link on how you mod'ed a SSS trigger to use on a 10PC?

The Hun: Your are absolutely right that I should have called savage immediately. However, at the time I kept reading about "fixes" online and I was not aware that Savage only had a one-year warranty. If I would have known that the warranty was so short, I wouldn't have spent so much time trying to fix it myself.
 
#17
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In case anyone is having similar problems. I got my Savage replacement parts and Rifle Basix SAV-1 trigger. The SAV-1 does work with the accustock. Installing and adjusting the trigger was a breeze. I ran into a little problem getting the trigger to fit with the stock, but removing the trigger guard and re-installing after the barreled action got it to work. The SAV-1 trigger is pretty good. Not the best I've ever felt, but definitely usable. Most importantly, it seems to work reliably.
 
#19
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Glad to hear you got it worked out. That was really weird your accu trigger was acting up this way. Mine doesn't do that at all.
 
#20
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I am glad to hear the SAV-1 worked out. I honestly prefer the Rifle Basix triggers anyway. I might just sell this one and get a SAV-1 again. I miss that trigger!!

DK
 
#22
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I will take any unwanted savages with the accutrigger
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#23
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triggers seem to be one of the first parts people want to modify in any brand though. what was that other company that had a trigger issue supposedly? had a video expose on the the news and everything. cant recall the name though, but people dont seem to like any factory triggers. i wonder why they dont offer aftermarket upgrades from the factory from more makers other than "custom shop" builds?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tip2oo3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only other trigger I've found are Rifle Basix triggers. I'm in the same boat my friend, my rifle is getting sold soon. </div></div>

dont cut off your nose to spite your face. just get a different trigger.
 
#24
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I mean I sway because a part works with X model but not Y model Savage. They are so inconsistent.

Personally, I love an old-style tuned 700 trigger. I have three of them I've tuned that I like BETTER than my Basix and Timney triggers.
 
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