Rifle Competition Events Geisselle match at Coleman’s Creek

Great match! 10 stages that were very challenging but doable. I took pistol for granted, but the pistol was a little more challenging than I thought it would be. Rifle from 160 to 800. A lot of stages were very positional from barricades, gates, rocks, benches, prone etc. Squad 2 was a hoot. Of course everyone wanted to do the best they could, but they weren’t so serious that they couldn’t have a lot of fun along the way. Overall I’m glad I went. I had a lot of fun, and shot ok. Came in 53 out of 94. I’m not picking up sponsors, but I didn’t do bad for an old guy. My wife said she would sponsor me if the jersey is pink. I may consider it in the future.
 
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Great match! 10 stages that were very challenging but doable.
Cool. How many rounds of rifle, pistol?

Hear that @DownhillFromHere? We have to go to the July match. Sounds like fun.
Conflict with the .22 match at Frontline. Since I won't be shooting this month's Frontline rimfire event, I definitely want to do the July one. Hopefully we could do the September 6th one at CC.
 
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About half of the stages had pistol, each stage took about 10 shots, IF you didn’t miss. Lol. Usually there were 5 plates, with two hits per plate, and as simple as this is, it is easy to get messed up, because you are trying to GO, so you can get on your rifle and start shooting. Heavy penalties for leaving targets not hit. The plates were usually generous sized, but they put them out just far enough to be challenging. 90 sec on each stage had you trying to get that pistol done! Most rifle stages took 10 to 18 rounds or so IF you had good hits. I saw multiple shooters doing mag changes because of the challenge of positional shooting. Fox targets at distance are very narrow, throw in a quartering wind and position changes between targets, all while knowing you had pistol AFTER the rifle part. Yes I wish I had that stage to do over. Targets had to be shot, in order, to advance. Going to war with target three with dope from target two doesn’t work too good. I may have done that also. I have to laugh at my self sometimes. Those two brain farts knocked me out of the high senior award. Seriously, it was a fun match. Hard enough to be challenging, but getting enough hits to feel ok about your performance. I will shoot more of them. I may go and RO the July match. Many ROs said they had trouble getting enough people, and we can’t shoot without them, so I may go help next time instead. I wish I could shoot a match like that every weekend. Sorry to be so long winded. Lastly, a TON of thanks to SH for the shooting lesson last week. My score was better due to your help. Now I need to find a good memory care doctor and I will be GTG for the next match.
 
Thanks for the info. Is there much more stage movement than a basic PRS match? When you shoot the pistol do they have a dump barrel or do you reholster before going to rifle?
 
These are a ton of fun. I haven't been able to shoot them this year due to schedule conflicts, including the one next weekend at Geissele. Built a gun and belt setup just for it too. Hope these pick up steam and turn into a national event like PRS one day. Good to break up the shooting into something a bit more practical.
 
Pistols had to go into a bucket, mag out, empty chamber. Another few seconds that ate into your rifle time, and put a touch more stress on you. All of the movement was very much like a prs match. Start 8ish feet behind the barricade, all equipment in hand, at the buzzer step up, set the rifle down, take 3 steps to the pistol bucket and engage targets, dump your pistol and then get to work with your rifle. Only one stage had a lot of movement. Shoot the foxes, and run 30ish yards into the woods and engage five pistol plates. That last fox was giving me fits, and I knew I need to get moving, when the buzzer went off and she yelled “TIME!”. I was like WTF just happened. I blinked my eyes and 90 seconds was gone!
 
Thanks. That’s odd they make you drop mag and unload the pistol but their rules. In 3 gun it was just a toss in the bucket.

You have your rifle slung on you or staged?
 
Too many untrained idiots out there and no way to kill a series faster than some dipship who barely knows what end the bullets come out shoot himself in the leg trying to reholster on the clock.

In all the training classes I've taken over the years from tier 1 dudes to local cops...speed from holster is important but slow, deliberate, looking where you re-holster is beat into everyone's heads.

I couldn't agree more with it. Drew's knows what he is doing.
 
Too many untrained idiots out there and no way to kill a series faster than some dipship who barely knows what end the bullets come out shoot himself in the leg trying to reholster on the clock.

In all the training classes I've taken over the years from tier 1 dudes to local cops...speed from holster is important but slow, deliberate, looking where you re-holster is beat into everyone's heads.

I couldn't agree more with it. Drew's knows what he is doing.

Of course. That’s why they stopped using pistols in PRS matches after someone shot themselves in the leg reholstering about 11 or 12 years ago. I was just wondering how they did things and if it was like 3 gun with a dump bucket. Trying to be a speed sport like 3 gun just found it odd to drop mag and lock slide but is what it is.
 
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3g has always been in the bucket with the safety on, and if it’s not, it is a dq. Pretty strong rule which enforces safety. Here you just dropped the mag and shucked the round out of the chamber as you were reaching towards the bucket. I think it’s a little safety overkill, but it was the same rule for everyone. In reality it took 1 second. The good thing about it, you didn’t have to go back and clear a hot pistol. For pickup, I still checked my chamber, hammer down, holstered, then walked away. All rifle was started mag in on an open bolt. Rifle could be slung, or in hand. My whole squad started in hand, stepped forward, quickly set the rifle down at or the prop, and went to pistol, which was just a couple steps over, then back to rifle. You could have started slung. I’m going to have to go to the range, and run a timer and get some averages between the two different methods. Several stages I timed out with the last target to go, and if one way is truly a few seconds faster, it could make a difference. I need to time it though. It doesn’t matter what feels better. The timer never lies.
 
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Yeah whenever I shot 3 gun it was a dump in the bucket and shooting a Glock I didn’t have to worry about that pesky safety lol. I watched guys get DQ’d with their 2011 styles and the safety pops off as it was tossed in the bucket.

Yeah just dropping mag and racking slide isn’t bad for speed and if everything is that close then I would probably do like you guys did and set the rifle down and then hit the pistol.