Has anyone used the Bear Grylls fixed blade survival knife? I was thinking on getting one but wanted to know if any Hide members used it first hand before I buy it. Thanks.
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Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
No, if you gave an idea of your budget you could probably get some useful suggestions though to a quality alternative.
No, if you gave an idea of your budget you could probably get some useful suggestions though to a quality alternative.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
The orange and black Gerber version is your typical low-end Gerber quality for a $40.00 knife. It's crap basically if you plan on actually putting it to use. Really the only knives out there in that class that are worth buying are the Cold Steel kukri or maybe something lightly used that originally belonged in a higher price bracket when new.
If you bump up your spending to $70.00, you can get a Becker/Ka-Bar BK2-Companion that would be a similar knife and serve you much better/longer.
The orange and black Gerber version is your typical low-end Gerber quality for a $40.00 knife. It's crap basically if you plan on actually putting it to use. Really the only knives out there in that class that are worth buying are the Cold Steel kukri or maybe something lightly used that originally belonged in a higher price bracket when new.
If you bump up your spending to $70.00, you can get a Becker/Ka-Bar BK2-Companion that would be a similar knife and serve you much better/longer.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
Junk knife paying for a jokers name. Get a proven knife that you are paying for quality not the name of some guy that likes to drink his own piss. Look at ESEE for low cost tough build use knives that have the best warrenty anywhere.
Junk knife paying for a jokers name. Get a proven knife that you are paying for quality not the name of some guy that likes to drink his own piss. Look at ESEE for low cost tough build use knives that have the best warrenty anywhere.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
I would avoid anything cold steel.I had a knife made with the san mai steel that started to delaminate from chopping wood. They wouldnt warranty it. Ive always had great warranty service with gerbers including broken tips...I dont kow about the Bear Grylls version but the same looking Gerber knife in coyote brown I had and was pretty decent infact IMO better than the RAT knife of the same size.
I would avoid anything cold steel.I had a knife made with the san mai steel that started to delaminate from chopping wood. They wouldnt warranty it. Ive always had great warranty service with gerbers including broken tips...I dont kow about the Bear Grylls version but the same looking Gerber knife in coyote brown I had and was pretty decent infact IMO better than the RAT knife of the same size.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
Do not avoid cold steel they make some of the best knives you can buy. Way way way better than gerber cold steel will hold Sharp longer and a lot tougher than gerber go to cold steel web sight and get there free dvd on there knives . I have several and they are the best knives ever made in my opinion. No gerber can ever hold up to cold steel.
Do not avoid cold steel they make some of the best knives you can buy. Way way way better than gerber cold steel will hold Sharp longer and a lot tougher than gerber go to cold steel web sight and get there free dvd on there knives . I have several and they are the best knives ever made in my opinion. No gerber can ever hold up to cold steel.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
They are not particularly rugged field knives.
As has been said, name a budget/ intended use and we can help more.
They are not particularly rugged field knives.
As has been said, name a budget/ intended use and we can help more.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sharfshutz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would avoid anything cold steel.I had a knife made with the san mai steel that started to delaminate from chopping wood. They wouldnt warranty it. Ive always had great warranty service with gerbers including broken tips...I dont kow about the Bear Grylls version but the same looking Gerber knife in coyote brown I had and was pretty decent infact IMO better than the RAT knife of the same size. </div></div>
Rat was made and heat treated by ontario which is not who ESEE uses today. It is pretty hard to beat Rowens heat treat on the steel they use today and they will outperform a whole lot of customs I own, all while not breaking the bank. The Gerber Bear Grylls suck ass. Plain and simple. They are built for the mall ninja airsoft survivalist guys.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sharfshutz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would avoid anything cold steel.I had a knife made with the san mai steel that started to delaminate from chopping wood. They wouldnt warranty it. Ive always had great warranty service with gerbers including broken tips...I dont kow about the Bear Grylls version but the same looking Gerber knife in coyote brown I had and was pretty decent infact IMO better than the RAT knife of the same size. </div></div>
Rat was made and heat treated by ontario which is not who ESEE uses today. It is pretty hard to beat Rowens heat treat on the steel they use today and they will outperform a whole lot of customs I own, all while not breaking the bank. The Gerber Bear Grylls suck ass. Plain and simple. They are built for the mall ninja airsoft survivalist guys.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim D</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are not particularly rugged field knives.
As has been said, name a budget/ intended use and we can help more. </div></div>
I am willing to go up to about $100. My uses would be general use for hunting in the woods and barbecuing ( cutting meat and small pieces of wood) and whatever wild hair I get. I just want a good dependable knife that can take a beating for the price I listed. I know $100 is not much for a good knife, but for now that's all I am able to spend. Hope this helps.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim D</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are not particularly rugged field knives.
As has been said, name a budget/ intended use and we can help more. </div></div>
I am willing to go up to about $100. My uses would be general use for hunting in the woods and barbecuing ( cutting meat and small pieces of wood) and whatever wild hair I get. I just want a good dependable knife that can take a beating for the price I listed. I know $100 is not much for a good knife, but for now that's all I am able to spend. Hope this helps.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
I'll save you some time Vaq. About 3 years worth(of abuse) is what I put into a Gerber LMF/ASEK(both are the same, the ASEK comes with extras). Price for me, for the LMF, was between $80 to $90.
When I first saw the Bear Grylls knife I puked a little in my mouth. It looks to me, to be the most retarded, hyped up, knife that I have ever seen Gerber create.
I think it was a needless step back for the company.
I'll save you some time Vaq. About 3 years worth(of abuse) is what I put into a Gerber LMF/ASEK(both are the same, the ASEK comes with extras). Price for me, for the LMF, was between $80 to $90.
When I first saw the Bear Grylls knife I puked a little in my mouth. It looks to me, to be the most retarded, hyped up, knife that I have ever seen Gerber create.
I think it was a needless step back for the company.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll save you some time Vaq. About 3 years worth(of abuse) is what I put into a Gerber LMF/ASEK(both are the same, the ASEK comes with extras). Price for me, for the LMF, was between $80 to $90.
When I first saw the Bear Grylls knife I puked a little in my mouth. It looks to me, to be the most retarded, hyped up, knife that I have ever seen Gerber create.
I think it was a needless step back for the company. </div></div>
I have the ASEK and agree it is a great knife. I don't understand why they beat the knife down to lower quality and are asking the price tag they are. Bear Grylls is stuck using that crapper on his show also. I am sure he has a real knife hidden.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll save you some time Vaq. About 3 years worth(of abuse) is what I put into a Gerber LMF/ASEK(both are the same, the ASEK comes with extras). Price for me, for the LMF, was between $80 to $90.
When I first saw the Bear Grylls knife I puked a little in my mouth. It looks to me, to be the most retarded, hyped up, knife that I have ever seen Gerber create.
I think it was a needless step back for the company. </div></div>
I have the ASEK and agree it is a great knife. I don't understand why they beat the knife down to lower quality and are asking the price tag they are. Bear Grylls is stuck using that crapper on his show also. I am sure he has a real knife hidden.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
Whatever war, battle, or slap fight that was going on for a TV show, survival guru knife, that was going on, Les Stroud won it with his.
Surprisingly the handle is made of wood! *GASP!*
Whatever war, battle, or slap fight that was going on for a TV show, survival guru knife, that was going on, Les Stroud won it with his.
Surprisingly the handle is made of wood! *GASP!*
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
You could also try a Gerber Steadfast, which is a re-issue Gerber LMF and costs about $45.00. The Gerber LMF II (which is the modern model strange days and Arma are speaking about but is different from an original LMF) is also a decent knife.
Check out knife tests for destruction testing on a bunch of knives. Obviously, these tests are not typical use tests - they are destruction/failure test to see how much abuse a knife can handle. That said, this guy's videos demonstrate the toughness of the edge, finish, & strength of the blade being destroyed pretty well. Here is a couple of videos of the destruction testing done on a Gerber LMF-II ASEK.
(part 1/7)
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(part 2/7)
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<span style="font-style: italic">**Parts 3 - 7 are on Youtube, which (part 6) show where the knife starts coming apart. Right click on the embedded videos and choose "Watch on Youtube" to get to the others.</span>
You could also try a Gerber Steadfast, which is a re-issue Gerber LMF and costs about $45.00. The Gerber LMF II (which is the modern model strange days and Arma are speaking about but is different from an original LMF) is also a decent knife.
Check out knife tests for destruction testing on a bunch of knives. Obviously, these tests are not typical use tests - they are destruction/failure test to see how much abuse a knife can handle. That said, this guy's videos demonstrate the toughness of the edge, finish, & strength of the blade being destroyed pretty well. Here is a couple of videos of the destruction testing done on a Gerber LMF-II ASEK.
(part 1/7)
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(part 2/7)
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<span style="font-style: italic">**Parts 3 - 7 are on Youtube, which (part 6) show where the knife starts coming apart. Right click on the embedded videos and choose "Watch on Youtube" to get to the others.</span>
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Vaq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am willing to go up to about $100. My uses would be general use for hunting in the woods and barbecuing ( cutting meat and small pieces of wood) and whatever wild hair I get. I just want a good dependable knife that can take a beating for the price I listed. I know $100 is not much for a good knife, but for now that's all I am able to spend. Hope this helps. </div></div>
In the class of $100.00 knives ($143.95 shipped actual) you might consider giving a look at Blind Horse Knives. They have their model called the Bushcrafter for sale on eBay that is a perfect fit for what you have described, "general use for hunting in the woods and barbecuing ( cutting meat and small pieces of wood) and whatever wild hair I get. I just want a good dependable knife that can take a beating for the price I listed".
***<span style="font-style: italic"> I am not the lister of the knife, nor do I have any affiliation with BHK.</span>***
Simply consider that extra $43.95 the cost of the premium leather sheath w/a loop for a Gobspark Firesteel and you have your perfect $100.00 multi-use outdoor knife. I have a couple of these knives and they are really a phenomenal value - not to mention that the sheath is second to none.
Not as "tactical" as many knives out there, but certainly more practical for your application.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Vaq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am willing to go up to about $100. My uses would be general use for hunting in the woods and barbecuing ( cutting meat and small pieces of wood) and whatever wild hair I get. I just want a good dependable knife that can take a beating for the price I listed. I know $100 is not much for a good knife, but for now that's all I am able to spend. Hope this helps. </div></div>
In the class of $100.00 knives ($143.95 shipped actual) you might consider giving a look at Blind Horse Knives. They have their model called the Bushcrafter for sale on eBay that is a perfect fit for what you have described, "general use for hunting in the woods and barbecuing ( cutting meat and small pieces of wood) and whatever wild hair I get. I just want a good dependable knife that can take a beating for the price I listed".
***<span style="font-style: italic"> I am not the lister of the knife, nor do I have any affiliation with BHK.</span>***
Simply consider that extra $43.95 the cost of the premium leather sheath w/a loop for a Gobspark Firesteel and you have your perfect $100.00 multi-use outdoor knife. I have a couple of these knives and they are really a phenomenal value - not to mention that the sheath is second to none.
Not as "tactical" as many knives out there, but certainly more practical for your application.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
For 100 bucks get an Esee 4.
If you can spend a bit more, get the Blind Horse Knives Bushcrafter as recommended above. I have one in matte green micarta with a scandi grind and it will do 95% of what I have ever wanted it to do. The other 5% is what a hatchet/machete/kukri is designed for. My $.02.
Josh
For 100 bucks get an Esee 4.
If you can spend a bit more, get the Blind Horse Knives Bushcrafter as recommended above. I have one in matte green micarta with a scandi grind and it will do 95% of what I have ever wanted it to do. The other 5% is what a hatchet/machete/kukri is designed for. My $.02.
Josh
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
I like some (most) of you dog on Bear Grylls. You would all do the same exact thing given the opportunity. He's laughing all the way to the bank.
I like some (most) of you dog on Bear Grylls. You would all do the same exact thing given the opportunity. He's laughing all the way to the bank.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like some (most) of you dog on Bear Grylls. You would all do the same exact thing given the opportunity. He's laughing all the way to the bank. </div></div>
I don't think he is laughing all the way to the bank. I think he is a smart man who does a great show. Look at how he brings a "Cool" factor into his show compared to the Canadian dude (Les Stroud) who does more realistic survivor type stuff but his show is boring to most people. Bear presents the show in a way that even the city boys learn something. You can tell he does like what he does and yes he makes a good living at it. His show is bad ass compared to Sons of Guns and other discovery flops.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like some (most) of you dog on Bear Grylls. You would all do the same exact thing given the opportunity. He's laughing all the way to the bank. </div></div>
I don't think he is laughing all the way to the bank. I think he is a smart man who does a great show. Look at how he brings a "Cool" factor into his show compared to the Canadian dude (Les Stroud) who does more realistic survivor type stuff but his show is boring to most people. Bear presents the show in a way that even the city boys learn something. You can tell he does like what he does and yes he makes a good living at it. His show is bad ass compared to Sons of Guns and other discovery flops.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
There are a lot of Youtube reviews of the BG knife showing the handle fall apart and how the serrations fold over and become useless after simple woods use gathering firewood etc.
Frankly it seems a piece of shit.
I don't know if you could do much worse.
There are a lot of Youtube reviews of the BG knife showing the handle fall apart and how the serrations fold over and become useless after simple woods use gathering firewood etc.
Frankly it seems a piece of shit.
I don't know if you could do much worse.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like some (most) of you dog on Bear Grylls. You would all do the same exact thing given the opportunity. He's laughing all the way to the bank. </div></div>
I don't think he is laughing all the way to the bank. I think he is a smart man who does a great show. Look at how he brings a "Cool" factor into his show compared to the Canadian dude (Les Stroud) who does more realistic survivor type stuff but his show is boring to most people. Bear presents the show in a way that even the city boys learn something. You can tell he does like what he does and yes he makes a good living at it. His show is bad ass compared to Sons of Guns and other discovery flops. </div></div>
I like his show because he does crazy shit - not crazy as in when he jumps over ditches and claims them to be crevasses, but crazy as in drinking his own piss whenever he can, squeezes schwater out of an elephant shit all over his face for a drink, or when he's taking bites out of a dead zebra. His show is entertaining. It's a bit disconcerting how he finds a way to wear or drink his piss in every episode and I think that is why I do like Survivor Man better.
Anyway, to the OP, get the BHK knife - it's the best blade for what you want to do. The suggestion of an Esee is a good one as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strangedays</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like some (most) of you dog on Bear Grylls. You would all do the same exact thing given the opportunity. He's laughing all the way to the bank. </div></div>
I don't think he is laughing all the way to the bank. I think he is a smart man who does a great show. Look at how he brings a "Cool" factor into his show compared to the Canadian dude (Les Stroud) who does more realistic survivor type stuff but his show is boring to most people. Bear presents the show in a way that even the city boys learn something. You can tell he does like what he does and yes he makes a good living at it. His show is bad ass compared to Sons of Guns and other discovery flops. </div></div>
I like his show because he does crazy shit - not crazy as in when he jumps over ditches and claims them to be crevasses, but crazy as in drinking his own piss whenever he can, squeezes schwater out of an elephant shit all over his face for a drink, or when he's taking bites out of a dead zebra. His show is entertaining. It's a bit disconcerting how he finds a way to wear or drink his piss in every episode and I think that is why I do like Survivor Man better.
Anyway, to the OP, get the BHK knife - it's the best blade for what you want to do. The suggestion of an Esee is a good one as well.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtask</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You could also try a Gerber Steadfast, which is a re-issue Gerber LMF and costs about $45.00. The Gerber LMF II (which is the modern model strange days and Arma are speaking about but is different from an original LMF) is also a decent knife.
Check out knife tests for destruction testing on a bunch of knives. Obviously, these tests are not typical use tests - they are destruction/failure test to see how much abuse a knife can handle. That said, this guy's videos demonstrate the toughness of the edge, finish, & strength of the blade being destroyed pretty well. Here is a couple of videos of the destruction testing done on a Gerber LMF-II ASEK.
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(part 1/7)
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<span style="font-style: italic">**Parts 3 - 7 are on Youtube, which (part 6) show where the knife starts coming apart. Right click on the embedded videos and choose "Watch on Youtube" to get to the others.</span> </div></div>
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Better than "the griz" knife. IF its something you'd want to pick up here's a decent deal on'm:
<span style="color: #FF0000">http://www.lapolicegear.com/gelmfiiknbli.html</span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtask</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You could also try a Gerber Steadfast, which is a re-issue Gerber LMF and costs about $45.00. The Gerber LMF II (which is the modern model strange days and Arma are speaking about but is different from an original LMF) is also a decent knife.
Check out knife tests for destruction testing on a bunch of knives. Obviously, these tests are not typical use tests - they are destruction/failure test to see how much abuse a knife can handle. That said, this guy's videos demonstrate the toughness of the edge, finish, & strength of the blade being destroyed pretty well. Here is a couple of videos of the destruction testing done on a Gerber LMF-II ASEK.
.
(part 1/7)
<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cL7rpJuCRWs"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cL7rpJuCRWs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>
(part 2/7)
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<span style="font-style: italic">**Parts 3 - 7 are on Youtube, which (part 6) show where the knife starts coming apart. Right click on the embedded videos and choose "Watch on Youtube" to get to the others.</span> </div></div>
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Better than "the griz" knife. IF its something you'd want to pick up here's a decent deal on'm:
<span style="color: #FF0000">http://www.lapolicegear.com/gelmfiiknbli.html</span>
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
Why is that guy wearing a hockey mask in the youtube video?
That just killed any possible credibility in my book. Sure, for the plexiglass but he left it on.
Second, Bear Grylls knife, probably retails normally at $125 wit hout his name, $350 with his name. For that I would look around and buy the knife that best suits your needs.
I still carry a BuckMaster, it simply worked up in Alaska, sure it may be heavy but it's proven itself in the field to me so it's what I use.
Use what you need, not what someone is marketing.
Edit: That said, I LOVE Gerber knives, they are my favorite second to Buck.
Why is that guy wearing a hockey mask in the youtube video?
That just killed any possible credibility in my book. Sure, for the plexiglass but he left it on.
Second, Bear Grylls knife, probably retails normally at $125 wit hout his name, $350 with his name. For that I would look around and buy the knife that best suits your needs.
I still carry a BuckMaster, it simply worked up in Alaska, sure it may be heavy but it's proven itself in the field to me so it's what I use.
Use what you need, not what someone is marketing.
Edit: That said, I LOVE Gerber knives, they are my favorite second to Buck.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
I have a Gerber LMF II and wouldn't trade it for anything else. For the price it's great quality, but not expensive enough that I'd feel bad smashing it up in the field. Has a nice sheath that attaches to your backpack or whatever. If by some exteme case you break it, no big deal, just go buy another one.
If you're a knife connoisseur then there are many other specialized knifes that you might like better. Bring up the subject of knives and everybody and their step-uncle will suggest a knife that they swear by, most of which are from some 1-man hole-in-the-wall operation.
I carry a knife like this in the woods because it's my last ditch tool. I don't want some little fancy blade just for cutting meat or because it's easy to sharpen, etc. etc. I want a knife that I can bash into a log and split it open because it's raining and everything is wet, and then hack up limbs to make a shelter, open my MRE and cut 550 cord, and then stab the bear that wants to eat my crackers and peanut butter.
I'm very confident that the Gerber LMF II can hold up to anything I ever throw at it...
I have a Gerber LMF II and wouldn't trade it for anything else. For the price it's great quality, but not expensive enough that I'd feel bad smashing it up in the field. Has a nice sheath that attaches to your backpack or whatever. If by some exteme case you break it, no big deal, just go buy another one.
If you're a knife connoisseur then there are many other specialized knifes that you might like better. Bring up the subject of knives and everybody and their step-uncle will suggest a knife that they swear by, most of which are from some 1-man hole-in-the-wall operation.
I carry a knife like this in the woods because it's my last ditch tool. I don't want some little fancy blade just for cutting meat or because it's easy to sharpen, etc. etc. I want a knife that I can bash into a log and split it open because it's raining and everything is wet, and then hack up limbs to make a shelter, open my MRE and cut 550 cord, and then stab the bear that wants to eat my crackers and peanut butter.
I'm very confident that the Gerber LMF II can hold up to anything I ever throw at it...
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is that guy wearing a hockey mask in the youtube video?
That just killed any possible credibility in my book. Sure, for the plexiglass but he left it on.</div></div>
He's breaking knives. He probably at some point got a steel shard in the face, and wasn't too concerned with credibility when he had to dig it out. So the hockey mask almost seems sensible.
Seems like the whole idea of breaking knives for a video (a really long one at that) gets the "WTF" in my mind.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is that guy wearing a hockey mask in the youtube video?
That just killed any possible credibility in my book. Sure, for the plexiglass but he left it on.</div></div>
He's breaking knives. He probably at some point got a steel shard in the face, and wasn't too concerned with credibility when he had to dig it out. So the hockey mask almost seems sensible.
Seems like the whole idea of breaking knives for a video (a really long one at that) gets the "WTF" in my mind.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I carry a knife like this in the woods because it's my last ditch tool. I don't want some little fancy blade just for cutting meat or because it's easy to sharpen, etc. etc. I want a knife that I can bash into a log and split it open because it's raining and everything is wet, and then hack up limbs to make a shelter, open my MRE and cut 550 cord, and then stab the bear that wants to eat my crackers and peanut butter.</div></div>
Wow! Fancy little blade huh? Well, the original poster stated he was wanting a knife that will, among other things mentioned, cut meat. It is now known what you require in a knife.
Quite a scenario you typed up and based on what you mentioned wanting your knife for, I'd suggest you purchase a Fiskars or Gerber camp axe because you'd hate your life if you had to do a lot of what you mentioned above with any knife. Either that or buy a light saber.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I carry a knife like this in the woods because it's my last ditch tool. I don't want some little fancy blade just for cutting meat or because it's easy to sharpen, etc. etc. I want a knife that I can bash into a log and split it open because it's raining and everything is wet, and then hack up limbs to make a shelter, open my MRE and cut 550 cord, and then stab the bear that wants to eat my crackers and peanut butter.</div></div>
Wow! Fancy little blade huh? Well, the original poster stated he was wanting a knife that will, among other things mentioned, cut meat. It is now known what you require in a knife.
Quite a scenario you typed up and based on what you mentioned wanting your knife for, I'd suggest you purchase a Fiskars or Gerber camp axe because you'd hate your life if you had to do a lot of what you mentioned above with any knife. Either that or buy a light saber.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtask</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow! Fancy little blade huh? Well, the original poster stated he was wanting a knife that will, among other things mentioned, cut meat. It is now known what you require in a knife.</div></div>
Often people suggest a 'survival' knife that is nothing more than a delicate meat knife and would not hold up very well under adverse conditions. Others might push a knife because you can sharpen it easily, i.e. with rocks while lost in the woods, but disregard the benefits of a harder blade. Like I said if you're a knife connoisseur you'll probably find a knife you like better than the Gerber, but for an all purpose knife that anybody can use (and afford), the Gerber is an excellent tool. In my opinion it easily surpasses the K-Bar in terms of a general purpose field knife.
The camp axes, kukri's etc. are indeed great tools as well, no doubt about it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dtask</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow! Fancy little blade huh? Well, the original poster stated he was wanting a knife that will, among other things mentioned, cut meat. It is now known what you require in a knife.</div></div>
Often people suggest a 'survival' knife that is nothing more than a delicate meat knife and would not hold up very well under adverse conditions. Others might push a knife because you can sharpen it easily, i.e. with rocks while lost in the woods, but disregard the benefits of a harder blade. Like I said if you're a knife connoisseur you'll probably find a knife you like better than the Gerber, but for an all purpose knife that anybody can use (and afford), the Gerber is an excellent tool. In my opinion it easily surpasses the K-Bar in terms of a general purpose field knife.
The camp axes, kukri's etc. are indeed great tools as well, no doubt about it.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Gerber LMF II and wouldn't trade it for anything else. For the price it's great quality, but not expensive enough that I'd feel bad smashing it up in the field. Has a nice sheath that attaches to your backpack or whatever. If by some exteme case you break it, no big deal, just go buy another one.
If you're a knife connoisseur then there are many other specialized knifes that you might like better. Bring up the subject of knives and everybody and their step-uncle will suggest a knife that they swear by, most of which are from some 1-man hole-in-the-wall operation.
I carry a knife like this in the woods because it's my last ditch tool. I don't want some little fancy blade just for cutting meat or because it's easy to sharpen, etc. etc. <span style="font-weight: bold">I want a knife that I can bash into a log and split it open because it's raining and everything is wet, and then hack up limbs to make a shelter, open my MRE and cut 550 cord, and then stab the bear that wants to eat my crackers and peanut butter. </span>
I'm very confident that the Gerber LMF II can hold up to anything I ever throw at it...</div></div>
Try it with the LMF... it's so thick that I think you'll have a hard time batoning it through wood.
Here is a $10 knife doing all of that, though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCXu1UQSKmg
Thick knifes tend to be trendy these days, but the thicker it is, the bigger the wedge you need to drive through what you're trying to cut.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Gerber LMF II and wouldn't trade it for anything else. For the price it's great quality, but not expensive enough that I'd feel bad smashing it up in the field. Has a nice sheath that attaches to your backpack or whatever. If by some exteme case you break it, no big deal, just go buy another one.
If you're a knife connoisseur then there are many other specialized knifes that you might like better. Bring up the subject of knives and everybody and their step-uncle will suggest a knife that they swear by, most of which are from some 1-man hole-in-the-wall operation.
I carry a knife like this in the woods because it's my last ditch tool. I don't want some little fancy blade just for cutting meat or because it's easy to sharpen, etc. etc. <span style="font-weight: bold">I want a knife that I can bash into a log and split it open because it's raining and everything is wet, and then hack up limbs to make a shelter, open my MRE and cut 550 cord, and then stab the bear that wants to eat my crackers and peanut butter. </span>
I'm very confident that the Gerber LMF II can hold up to anything I ever throw at it...</div></div>
Try it with the LMF... it's so thick that I think you'll have a hard time batoning it through wood.
Here is a $10 knife doing all of that, though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCXu1UQSKmg
Thick knifes tend to be trendy these days, but the thicker it is, the bigger the wedge you need to drive through what you're trying to cut.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Often people suggest a 'survival' knife that is nothing more than a delicate meat knife and would not hold up very well under adverse conditions. Others might push a knife because you can sharpen it easily, i.e. with rocks while lost in the woods, but disregard the benefits of a harder blade. Like I said if you're a knife connoisseur you'll probably find a knife you like better than the Gerber, but for an all purpose knife that anybody can use (and afford), the Gerber is an excellent tool. In my opinion it easily surpasses the K-Bar in terms of a general purpose field knife.
The camp axes, kukri's etc. are indeed great tools as well, no doubt about it.
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I follow what you're saying and agree - I just got a kick out of how you stated your POV. Made me laugh.
The BHK Bushcrafter that I linked to is an American handmade knife of O1 tool steel with an RC hardness of 57-59 which, coincidentally, is essentially the same hardness as the production American made Gerber LMF II (Gerber states 58 and not a range estimate...which is a bit strange since 420HC has an RC hardness range of 56-59).
But because O1 has better edge properties, it maintains an edge better than 420HC, but 420HC is easier to sharpen. It is for that reason that the BHK knife utilizes a Scandi grind to make sharpening easier.
Both knives are good knives and either will get the job done...but that said, so would a $20 CS Kukri or a $30 Gerber camp axe w/ a secondary knife in the handle.
I'm not complaining about any of them, because as correctly assumed, I'm a knife geek and have every model discussed thus far.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Often people suggest a 'survival' knife that is nothing more than a delicate meat knife and would not hold up very well under adverse conditions. Others might push a knife because you can sharpen it easily, i.e. with rocks while lost in the woods, but disregard the benefits of a harder blade. Like I said if you're a knife connoisseur you'll probably find a knife you like better than the Gerber, but for an all purpose knife that anybody can use (and afford), the Gerber is an excellent tool. In my opinion it easily surpasses the K-Bar in terms of a general purpose field knife.
The camp axes, kukri's etc. are indeed great tools as well, no doubt about it.
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I follow what you're saying and agree - I just got a kick out of how you stated your POV. Made me laugh.
The BHK Bushcrafter that I linked to is an American handmade knife of O1 tool steel with an RC hardness of 57-59 which, coincidentally, is essentially the same hardness as the production American made Gerber LMF II (Gerber states 58 and not a range estimate...which is a bit strange since 420HC has an RC hardness range of 56-59).
But because O1 has better edge properties, it maintains an edge better than 420HC, but 420HC is easier to sharpen. It is for that reason that the BHK knife utilizes a Scandi grind to make sharpening easier.
Both knives are good knives and either will get the job done...but that said, so would a $20 CS Kukri or a $30 Gerber camp axe w/ a secondary knife in the handle.
I'm not complaining about any of them, because as correctly assumed, I'm a knife geek and have every model discussed thus far.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPDSNYPR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is that guy wearing a hockey mask in the youtube video?
That just killed any possible credibility in my book. Sure, for the plexiglass but he left it on.</div></div>
He's breaking knives. He probably at some point got a steel shard in the face, and wasn't too concerned with credibility when he had to dig it out. So the hockey mask almost seems sensible.
Seems like the whole idea of breaking knives for a video (a really long one at that) gets the "WTF" in my mind. </div></div>
I had the same thoughts when I first was turned on to his videos, but there is definitely some useful information to be gleaned from his destruction tests. You'd be amazed at how many "high quality" knives are complete pieces of shit once put to even light use - never mind abuse.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SPDSNYPR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is that guy wearing a hockey mask in the youtube video?
That just killed any possible credibility in my book. Sure, for the plexiglass but he left it on.</div></div>
He's breaking knives. He probably at some point got a steel shard in the face, and wasn't too concerned with credibility when he had to dig it out. So the hockey mask almost seems sensible.
Seems like the whole idea of breaking knives for a video (a really long one at that) gets the "WTF" in my mind. </div></div>
I had the same thoughts when I first was turned on to his videos, but there is definitely some useful information to be gleaned from his destruction tests. You'd be amazed at how many "high quality" knives are complete pieces of shit once put to even light use - never mind abuse.
Re: Gerber Bear Grylls Fixed Blade Knife
Don't pay for a person's name. You could probably find the same model without his name on it and pay half the price.
Don't pay for a person's name. You could probably find the same model without his name on it and pay half the price.
