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ghost rings on cases need advice

heavy boolitt

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I need some advice,loadn ladder test loads for .308,178a-max max oal is2.883,loaded [email protected]. 42gr-47gr,in .3gr increments. loaded 8rnds @42gr.to make sure imk it to trgt.shot 3 and got ghost rings on brass rifle is svg mdl 11 22in 1-10 twist.should istart lower or seat them deeper? allbrass is rem with rem 91\2 primers full length sized.thankyou veterans for your service to america. thankyou hide members in advance
 
Re: ghost rings on cases need advice

That is the expansion ring. Normal, because the base is thicker at that point than farther up. The walls expand to obturate the case against the gas pressure and to prevent excessive rearward pressure against the case head. The larger your chamber and the smaller the cases, the earlier you see those marks. Now that you have once fired brass...try this: Screw your full length sizing die into the press until it bottoms out. Now, unscrew it at least one and one half full turn. Take a fired case and lube it, then size it at that setting. Try it in your rifle. Chances are, that it will fit. Size the same case after screwing it in 1/8th turn at a time. It will get progressively harder to fit it into your rifle chamber. UNTIL...all of a sudden, the bolt handle drops easily. Back off 1/16th of a turn till the handle has a SLIGHT touch of resistance. That is your maximum/minimum sizing of that case. I like to screw it back in another 1/16th to 1/32 of a turn to make sure the cartridge chambers easily. You'll see the ring...but it won't interfere with the functioning of the rifle, nor will you waste cases by oversizing them. After you complete the test be sure that you degrease the chamber. JMHO
 
Re: ghost rings on cases need advice

You sure its not there before the round is fired too? Some FL sizing dies leave a slight (cosmetic) ring there too. Can you actually feel the ring or just see it? You didn't mention what powder you are using.

okie
 
Re: ghost rings on cases need advice

o.k. did that the handle dropped just like you said it would. Do i have to do anything different for my Lee neck sizer? should i lower my beginning charge for starting loads.
 
Re: ghost rings on cases need advice

I would not concider 42gr of varget a hot charge with 178's, not even very close. I've run 45gr in Fed brass with 178's through a factory LTR for years, no problems. Just watch for pressure signs as you work up, I think you'll see them well before 47gr's even with your long OAL. Every rifle's different.

okie