Government abuse is inevitable if a population is unarmed.

[heronblue7]

If a government does not fear the citizens, it is inevitable that it will abuse and exploit them.

It seems like it’s hardwired into human nature.

I would argue that gun control causes atrocities directly.

It removes the only deterrent that prevents politicians from acting out their violent fantasies.

I am certain that Hitler’s disarming of the Jews lead to his ideation of exterminating them.

 

[pmclaine]

Hitler always wanted to exterminate jews.

There is probably some psychological/pathological issue for that. More clinical than an actual experiential decision on his part.

Disarming the jews, and anyone that wasnt a psychphant follower, allowed him to act on his psychosis.

 

[eca7891]

Government abuse is rampant now , and we are armed.

 

[308220]

Government abuse is rampant now , and we are armed.

Taxation without representation, is a little different than an extermination attempt.

 

[eca7891]

Taxation without representation, is a little different than an extermination attempt.

completely agree on the extermination.

the taxation with representation I may argue.

we are represented, I use that term loosely, they just don’t follow the constitution. Which undermines everything.

 

[MtnCreek]

Taxation without representation, is a little different than an extermination attempt.

What we're experiencing now is extermination of the American people. The founding stock is encouraged, financially or based on some false morality, to not have children while the trash is encouraged to brood off as many worthless bastards as possible. All the while we're importing trash wholesale to further dilute American power. We may not be filling mass graves...yet, but extermination is exactly what's happening.

 

[Nik H]

White caucasians are the new Jew....just look around.

 

[MtnCreek]

White caucasians are the new Jew....just look around.

In that context, ponder who the new nazi would be.

 

[Nik H]

In that context, ponder who the new nazi would be.

I have a good guess

 

[MtnCreek]

White caucasians are the new Jew....just look around.

And I ain't never been to no Caucasia!

 

[Nik H]

I could have left it as just white is the new Jew but it is Saturday AM and I have a bit of a hangover....hehehehe

 

[W54/XM-388]

White caucasians are the new Jew....just look around.

If you happen to be:
White, Caucasian, Male, Christian, Normally Sexual, Conservative, Freedom loving, Free Speech Loving and Gun Loving,
Then look around you as you are pretty much living on borrowed time like an orthodox Jew in berlin around say 1934

 

[wade2big]

If you happen to be:
White, Caucasian, Male, Christian, Normally Sexual, Conservative, Freedom loving, Free Speech Loving and Gun Loving,
Then look around you as you are pretty much living on borrowed time like an orthodox Jew in berlin around say 1934

I fit into all of those categories. The only one I am not totally sure of is “normally Sexual”. I am a man that is into women exclusively but past that, there are no boundaries. Do I qualify?

 

[Hoploman]

People of Hong Kong could use the 2A.

Imagine them supplied. They have guts, and would use it. Right now, they are bravely taking on severe government brutality completely unarmed. But the state is escalating and injuring and killing people.

 

[Inifinty]

And I ain't never been to no Caucasia!

If you’s ruddy complected your far off ancestors crossed those mountains after the fall of Babylon. Hence the name.

The history books are filled with fables.

 

[Maggot]

People of Hong Kong could use the 2A.

Imagine them supplied. They have guts, and would use it. Right now, they are bravely taking on severe government brutality completely unarmed. But the state is escalating and injuring and killing people.

THat gives me one hell of an idea for black market sales. I wonder what the Chinese do to you if youre caught.

 

[MadDuner]

IF our US Government ever decided that mere peasant citizens were to no longer possess firearms - the bloodshed would be unprecedented in this country. But then again - the USA with a disarmed public would no longer be the USA either.

 

[MtnCreek]

THat gives me one hell of an idea for black market sales. I wonder what the Chinese do to you if youre caught.

Better not get caught.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

Our Government seems pretty much out of control, beyond/above The Law/Constitution, and completely devoid of any idea that they work for *US* and are our Represntation.

And we are armed. It'll get worse or work towards their Final Solution when we are disarmed but we are hardly faring very well currently.

VooDoo

 

[OldSalty]

IF our US Government ever decided that mere peasant citizens were to no longer possess firearms - the bloodshed would be unprecedented in this country. But then again - the USA with a disarmed public would no longer be the USA either.

When it happens it will be put forth by elected officials. The issue here is dillution. And the faucet is not leaking, its wide open. Its just a matter of time before those opposed to 2A have majority population support and have majority power in govt.

IMO this will be the case in 10-15 years. Perhaps sooner...

A few states in fly-over will be the last holdouts.

This is why IMO orgs like NRA have lost their way / failed (if they ever had a way). Too busy geasing the palms of politicians and their own board members. Corruption by money and have lost sight of grass roots 2A education. The survival of 2A is dependent on future generations to understand its purpose and uphold its value. This is just simply not happening. The anti 2A orgs are however extremely efficient in this aspect. Media demonizing gun owners and public schools falsifying intent or simply not teaching about 2A as it is scary and offensive to some.

Its a war of hearts and feelings (not minds). Sure 2A support wins a few battles here and there but in the end is losing the war.

There are MANY examples (some in recent history) of how a unarmed populations were/are subjugated by tyrannical rulers. But, people just laugh and say it cant happen here...but never stop to understand why...at least for now.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

I just wanted to add to this discussion that I do not believe we will vote our way out of this dilemma. We didn't vote our way into it and we won't vote our way out. Please do not misconstrue this to mean I am telling you not to vote. Vote. Please.

But the Government is out of control and beyond repair at the voting booth. This is not going to get "fixed" until it is so broken that people are starving and living in poverty and rise up. Then we'll tear it all down and rebuild it using the history and knowledge we have gained to make it better and avoid the same problems via reverse engineering. The disarmament thing is a Government wide terror/fear of an armed populace. They want the guns so that they can enforce fleecing US without the fear of armed reprisal.

Resist, do not comply, and control the crash as best you can is my advice worth every penny yer paying for it. We'll fix it in the rebuild. But please stop hating on yer neighbor and blaming him/her for this. Our enemy is our Representation. Not yer neighbor.

VooDoo

 

[FS1]

completely agree on the extermination.

the taxation with representation I may argue.

we are represented, I use that term loosely, they just don’t follow the constitution. Which undermines everything.

We are not represented. We are conditioned by Media to think so.

What is happening now is no different that at any time in history. Globalism is the age old quest for world domination. But now information is the weapon and the Security State is the warrior that wields it.

The only solution is Rope. If that rope comes from the law? Normal life goes on. If it comes from the people it gets ugly.

Pray the law gets them. Prepare if they don’t. JMHO

 

[wade2big]

I just wanted to add to this discussion that I do not believe we will vote our way out of this dilemma. We didn't vote our way into it and we won't vote our way out. Please do not misconstrue this to mean I am telling you not to vote. Vote. Please.

But the Government is out of control and beyond repair at the voting booth. This is not going to get "fixed" until it is so broken that people are starving and living in poverty and rise up. Then we'll tear it all down and rebuild it using the history and knowledge we have gained to make it better and avoid the same problems via reverse engineering. The disarmament thing is a Government wide terror/fear of an armed populace. They want the guns so that they can enforce fleecing US without the fear of armed reprisal.

Resist, do not comply, and control the crash as best you can is my advice worth every penny yer paying for it. We'll fix it in the rebuild. But please stop hating on yer neighbor and blaming him/her for this. Our enemy is our Representation. Not yer neighbor.

VooDoo

Don’t blame the man that put the gun to your head and pull the trigger as he was your neighbor. If your neighbor is a communist (progressive leftist) it is directly his fault

 

[Kamerad]

Hitler always wanted to exterminate jews.

There is probably some psychological/pathological issue for that. More clinical than an actual experiential decision on his part.

Disarming the jews, and anyone that wasnt a psychphant follower, allowed him to act on his psychosis.

There’s a wealth of history there. If you actually want to understand, educate yourself. You’re parroting cartoonish caricatures masquerading as truth.

 

[79steeler]

We are all already slaves to the government and we are armed. Stop paying your taxes for a while and see what happens. Once they disarm us we will be poor slaves. The taxes will leave us with just enough for bread and soup. It's almost hard to believe they want more from us then they are already taking. They do what they want and we do nothing. Everyone is just too comfortable and afraid to lose what we have. That's how they keep us slaves, just giving us just enough so we do nothing and it keep us docile. It will get worse and still no response from the people. We are all guilty. This republic has grown weak. We fight their wars in foreign places, but won't fight for our own country like our forefathers. We are comfortable. They do what they want with no reprucussions. They kill people, they try and unseat a duly elected President, commit treason, lie to us, tax us, take away our rights, enrich themselves illegally, put us in prison for things they themselves do only 100 times worse, they rape, they pedophiles, and they just keep getting away with it. They are above the law. We are nothing but tax paying slaves to them, worker bee's. No one has the balls to form a group and just go and get them. Trial by American citezens and hang them. We are all guilty of complacency. It's going to get worse. Our children and grandchildren are fucked and they actually have most of the young thinking it's a good thing. Many young today believe that socialism is the way of the future. Our young are becoming lazier and weaker, more reliant of the tyrants for handouts and free everything. It's pathetic. I'm guilty, I'm comfortable, I'm lazy, I want my toys, and I really don't have the training to do what needs to be done, but many on here do. Lot's of tough talk but no action. We need leaders to save this republic. Where are you?

Rant over. I am guilty, I am tired, and really just lazy. I'm gonna go get a really good bloody mary now and enjoy my saturday. Probably go shoot my new suppressed FN 509 in FDE. Watch some colledge footbal, check in on my business and hope for the best. God I love my country, just not enough to go out and arrest treasonous traiters by force and bring them to justice. I vote, that's what I've been tought to do. Any suggestions are welcome.

 

[FS1]

I vote, that's what I've been tought to do. Any suggestions are welcome.


I’ll bet we all vote. It is the glue that binds us. When we no long trust that vote, that glue begins to dissolve.

I want Trump to succeed. I do believe he is the last chance.

 

[pmclaine]

There’s a wealth of history there. If you actually want to understand, educate yourself. You’re parroting cartoonish caricatures masquerading as truth.

In what way?

Was Mom half jewish?

Was it insult for not being chosen for art school?

Did someone laugh at his junk?

Was it an expedient for explaining how Germany lost the war with "an Army undefeated in the field" (because they retreated before they were destroyed in good order)?

Was it anger that jews controlled much of German business and capital?

Was it just he needed a strawman in order to rally support?

Mein Kampf is such a sucky read but its pretty well outlined in there what his intentions are.

I dont know? Educate me in PM if you prefer.....refresh my memory, I had some good professors on this shit.

Its all so confusing, I mean who remembers the American Indian and the Armenians?

 

[pmclaine]

In that context, ponder who the new nazi would be.

The "new" Nazi is the same as the "old" Nazi.

Europa exists just barely so but like all tyrants they believe the shit to be failing just because there is not more Europa.

So if we bring Europa to the world there will be "Utopia".......

 

[10ring'r]

Our Government seems pretty much out of control, beyond/above The Law/Constitution, and completely devoid of any idea that they work for *US* and are our Represntation.

And we are armed. It'll get worse or work towards their Final Solution when we are disarmed but we are hardly faring very well currently.

VooDoo

I agree with your statement. It's only us true "Americans" that are older, matururer, have more to lose, have taken Oaths, that we have constraint at this point in time, but there WILL be a "tipping point"in our country's future if shit is not squared-away/fixed. Mac

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Look at Congress. Tell me this is a Nation of Laws.

It is a nation of more laws than can possibly be enforced, with no will to enforce any of them unless they separate the electorate from more and more of their political power. Remember what Mao said about political power and where it comes from.

Frankenstein had nothing on the Liberals. Lenin would be proud.

We are living out the gifts of Democracy.

Hope we're enjoying ourselves.

Oh look, the band's playing on the Titanic, right over there...

And Nancy's sayin' , "And a one, and a two..."

 

[eca7891]

We are not represented. We are conditioned by Media to think so.

What is happening now is no different that at any time in history. Globalism is the age old quest for world domination. But now information is the weapon and the Security State is the warrior that wields it.

The only solution is Rope. If that rope comes from the law? Normal life goes on. If it comes from the people it gets ugly.

Pray the law gets them. Prepare if they don’t. JMHO

You and I are not that far apart. Ultimately we both have the same endgame, just slightly different routes.

 

[Darayavaus]

And I ain't never been to no Caucasia!

in most of the world, if you tell people you are "caucasian" they'll think you are a Chechen or Georgian.

 

[Darayavaus]

Look at Congress. Tell me this is a Nation of Laws.

It is a nation of more laws than can possibly be enforced, with no will to enforce any of them unless they separate the electorate from more and more of their political power. Remember what Mao said about political power and where it comes from.

Frankenstein had nothing on the Liberals. Lenin would be proud.

We are living out the gifts of Democracy.

Hope we're enjoying ourselves.

Oh look, the band's playing on the Titanic, right over there...

And Nancy's sayin' , "And a one, and a two..."

The People's Cube Quiz: Guess Whose Quote It Is

Guess who said it and find out on which side of the gulag fence you'll be tomorrow. (Warning: some answers will make you want to slap yourself upside the head with a shovel).

thepeoplescube.com

 

[heronblue7]

Corrupt Dem politicians let about 50 million illegals in with the intention to fundamentally transform our Republic.

They let them steal social security numbers and vote.

The Dems hijacked our Democracy in order to destroy freedom.

 

[tomcatmv]

We are all already slaves to the government and we are armed. Stop paying your taxes for a while and see what happens. Once they disarm us we will be poor slaves. The taxes will leave us with just enough for bread and soup. It's almost hard to believe they want more from us then they are already taking. They do what they want and we do nothing. Everyone is just too comfortable and afraid to lose what we have. That's how they keep us slaves, just giving us just enough so we do nothing and it keep us docile. It will get worse and still no response from the people. We are all guilty. This republic has grown weak. We fight their wars in foreign places, but won't fight for our own country like our forefathers. We are comfortable. They do what they want with no reprucussions. They kill people, they try and unseat a duly elected President, commit treason, lie to us, tax us, take away our rights, enrich themselves illegally, put us in prison for things they themselves do only 100 times worse, they rape, they pedophiles, and they just keep getting away with it. They are above the law. We are nothing but tax paying slaves to them, worker bee's. No one has the balls to form a group and just go and get them. Trial by American citezens and hang them. We are all guilty of complacency. It's going to get worse. Our children and grandchildren are fucked and they actually have most of the young thinking it's a good thing. Many young today believe that socialism is the way of the future. Our young are becoming lazier and weaker, more reliant of the tyrants for handouts and free everything. It's pathetic. I'm guilty, I'm comfortable, I'm lazy, I want my toys, and I really don't have the training to do what needs to be done, but many on here do. Lot's of tough talk but no action. We need leaders to save this republic. Where are you?

Rant over. I am guilty, I am tired, and really just lazy. I'm gonna go get a really good bloody mary now and enjoy my saturday. Probably go shoot my new suppressed FN 509 in FDE. Watch some colledge footbal, check in on my business and hope for the best. God I love my country, just not enough to go out and arrest treasonous traiters by force and bring them to justice. I vote, that's what I've been tought to do. Any suggestions are welcome.

I am so much in a similar state of mind.

 

[Aries256]

Government abuse is rampant now , and we are armed.

Now imagine how bad it would be if we’re sitting ducks.

 

[Aries256]

I just wanted to add to this discussion that I do not believe we will vote our way out of this dilemma. We didn't vote our way into it and we won't vote our way out. Please do not misconstrue this to mean I am telling you not to vote. Vote. Please.

But the Government is out of control and beyond repair at the voting booth. This is not going to get "fixed" until it is so broken that people are starving and living in poverty and rise up. Then we'll tear it all down and rebuild it using the history and knowledge we have gained to make it better and avoid the same problems via reverse engineering. The disarmament thing is a Government wide terror/fear of an armed populace. They want the guns so that they can enforce fleecing US without the fear of armed reprisal.

Resist, do not comply, and control the crash as best you can is my advice worth every penny yer paying for it. We'll fix it in the rebuild. But please stop hating on yer neighbor and blaming him/her for this. Our enemy is our Representation. Not yer neighbor.

VooDoo

If that neighbor is a gun grabbing, illegal alien supporting, communist, then yes they’re part of said enemy.

 

[Aries256]

If you happen to be:
White, Caucasian, Male, Christian, Normally Sexual, Conservative, Freedom loving, Free Speech Loving and Gun Loving,
Then look around you as you are pretty much living on borrowed time like an orthodox Jew in berlin around say 1934

Im all those minus christian.