Gseven rangefinder?

[bmk]

My Leica just isn't gettting the job done now that I'm shooting beyond 1000. When shooting targets, I'm getting by OK by using GPS.

I'm in the market for a new rangefinder. I've thought about Vectronix, but I don't like the price.

I've been reading reviews on the G7 and it sounds like just the thing I need. It gives a full ballistic solution to 1400 yards, and reads ranges beyond that. It also can calculate your density altitude.

However, it only computes in MOA, those G7 guys love MOA and don't use Mil for anything. I prefer Mil, and emailed G7 sales as well as tech support asking if and when they would make a model that gives corrections in Mil.

That was over a week ago and I haven't heard back. Customer service is evidently piss poor, but can any of you tell me anything about this rangefinder?

 

[bmk]

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I just posted on their facebook page, too. We'll see what they say.

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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Longrangehunting.com has a detailed review from shawn carlock. It does everything it is advertised as doing. No mil version.

 

[bmk]

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I've read that review, it's one of the reasons Im interested in the product.

However if they won't make a mil version, they probably won't get my business. Especially considering that their customer service is sub par.

 

[VKC]

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I thought about getting a Gseven rangefinder as well but did not because of it did not come in mil. I went with the Vectronix terrapin rangefinder and could not be happier.

 

[bmk]

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The response to my question of whether a mil version will be offered:

Gunwerks wrote: "Not anytime soon. Just the moa and bdc options for now. "

How disappointing. Especially since it seems it would be a relatively simple modification to make on thier part.

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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Mil is gay

 

[bmk]

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That was certainly a productive comment. Thank you.

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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Just kidding, no offense intended (maybe a lite ribbing)

The G7 has a built in inclinometer to give you the corrected 'shoot to' yardage as well as sample the conditions and give you a shooting solution out to 1,400yds and a range of 2k+ (you know this but bear with me). If i had a mil scope i would zero my rifle and record the conditions, then print a drop chart (basically what the guys are doing with a calibrated BDC turret but without having to switch out your turrets, just leave it mil). Then i would enter in my ballistic profile into the G7 and use the 'shoot to' yardage feature of the G7 rangefinder. This would allow you mil guys to range a target, let the rangefinder dope the conditions for you, spit out a corrected 'shoot to' yardage (instead of an MOA come up), and then glance at THAT yardage on your drop card. It would do the same thing essentially as it does for the MOA guys but with the added step of glancing at your drop chart. It would still allow you to leave the Kestrel and PDA at home, although having an MOA scope does give an advantage with the G7 over the mil user of it telling me the MOA to dial to instantly.

Even if you dont use the built in ballistic program (which for me, an moa user, is a huge plus) the rangefinder is capable out to 2,000yds. If you get in on the group buy at LRH.com its $1,400. IMO the only thing that beats it is the PLRF05 for 2k.
So right now i think its a good rangefinder at a good deal. I couldn't bring myself to buy the PLRF05 after all the reviews i read and the research i did because, to me, for $2,000 i want it to do more than just give me the straight line range to a target. I have no interest in shooting to 3k yards and don't know many people that can so to me the PLRF05's ranging ability is more of a sales gimick, or the cool factor of being able to tell your buddies your fancy new rangefinder will hit 3k. IMO if i was going to spend that kind of money on a RF i would have bought the Swaro EL rangefinding bino's for $850 more than the PLRF05, at least that would have eliminated an extra piece of kit (bino's) and its capable to 1,500yds+ with a beam divergence of 1.5x.05 about the same (actually a little better) than the PLRF05.

 

[bmk]

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Thanks for the information, I had never thought of doing that. I'm still pretty interested and may see what I can to to jump in on the group buy.

On one hand, I wish the thing could give me a mil correction, but on the other hand, even if I don't use the correction feature of the unit, it still beats the holy crap out of any other rangefinder out there under $2000.

I'm with you 100% on the "I don't need to shoot 3k yards". I like to shoot my long range rig, but really all I'm doing is practicing to hunt with it. 1400 is a god's plenty for me when hunting and 2000 is more than adequate for any practice I do.

Thanks for the post, you've got me thinking about it again.

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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Thats what i was thinking too. Im a hunter that likes to shoot so the 1,400yd 'shoot to' capability is what sold me on it but also the ability to plink and have fun out to 2k yds. In my mind unless i lived in wide open country and had a Cheytac the PLRF05 was overkill. If i had a big boomer the idea of plinking at 3k would be fun.

Aaron is getting ready to sell these to distributors so this is probably the only time you are going to see them at $1,400. I would suggest that if you have the funds get in on the group buy and try it out. If you decide its not for you then you can sell it for $1,400-$1,500 to someone that couldn't get in on the one time group buy. It's a pretty low risk opportunity .02

 

[Emouse]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bmk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The response to my question of whether a mil version will be offered:

Gunwerks wrote: "Not anytime soon. Just the moa and bdc options for now. "

How disappointing. Especially since it seems it would be a relatively simple modification to make on thier part.</div></div>

A very short sighted attitude by the manufacturer,...I run a PLRF15C and use an MSR ret/MRAD. If this item was ofered with inbuilt MRAD corections it would wud dominate the civillian and L.E market.

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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I thought it was short sighted not to offer this technology with mil in a rangefinding bonocular with decent glass. I can tell you they would have been getting alot more of my money easily if they had done that! Im sure that a bino with similar technology will be the next big thing to blow away the market.

 

[RemingtonSPS]

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I got a pm where it seemed a guy was a little confused about what i meant by using the shoot to feature to work with your mil setup so i copied and pasted my reply here in the hopes it would help mil shooters who are on the fence with the G7.

...... "First off im an MOA shooter and i do not yet have my G7. I got in on the group buy but i won't have mine til the end of the month. The 'shoot to' feature would be set up the same as the BDC. The guys that use bullet drop compensators go out and shoot at their home range and do a trajectory validation (you can use an online program for this and make it match your data) until they have their drop charts dialed in for their specific atmospheric conditions, i.e. atltitude, temp, bc, muzzle veloctity. Then they send their altitude, bullet bc, muzzle velocity, and temp into Gunwerks and they make them a bullet drop compensated turret based off of that data. That process does not have to be in MOA, they are simply looking for Altitude, temp, muzzle velocity, and bullet bc. What im suggesting is that instead of sending the info in and having a BDC turret made print out the drop chart in mils and keep it with the rifle.

What im suggesting is to go through the same process with a ballistic program. When you have the atmospherics set, and you have done a trajectory validation so the Altitude, bullet bc, muzzle velocity, and temp match your drop in mils you have the needed information to input into the G7. The G7 wants your altitude, temp, muzzle velocity, bullet bc, and humidity right? Print out your drop chart and keep it with the gun. Input your atmospheric data into the G7 and use the BDC settings in the G7 so when you laze the target, for example, the straight line distance in yards will show up and the internal program will measure pressure, temp, and humidity and give you a BDC corrected yardage. For example, you laze the target and the G7 reads 900yds line of sight, then a second later it gives you a atmospheric corrected 'shoot to' BDC yardage of 875yds, at this point the guy with a BDC turret would dial to 875yds, but all YOU have to do is look at the mil drop chart you keep with the rifle and dial (in mils) to your 875yd dope. Viola! you have a G7 in mils."

 

[Heltsley]

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MuleHunter thanks for all the info on the G7...

I still have most of my scopes with Mil ret. and Min. turets, so I believe I will give it a try. On my Mil/Mil scopes as you said just go to the card and done.

Thanks again.