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Suppressors Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

AEROMechanic

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Morning all.

I was wonder which, if any, suppressors are hearing safe and of those which would you all recommend?

Also, do suppressor covers make that big of a difference and if so is there one that's better then others or do they all perform about the same?

Thanks
LarryA
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

I think those with the most knowledge will say there are non that are truly hearing safe. My AWC Thundertrap seems to be ear safe at least to the point I have no ringing after use. I shoot it without further protection but I understand there is likely still some chance damage. I think others here will clear this up for you as he has in other questions like this.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PGG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think those with the most knowledge will say there are non that are truly hearing safe. My AWC Thundertrap seems to be ear safe at least to the point I have no ringing after use. I shoot it without further protection but I understand there is likely still some chance damage. I think others here will clear this up for you as he has in other questions like this. </div></div>

I appreciate the info.
LarryA
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

TBAC is pretty close, I've shot several rounds, 5-10 at one sitting head no ringing.(well then what I normally have) Griffen Beast is about the same level and YHM. One of the differences between the three is weight. TBAC is the lightest, then YHM, and Griffen. I have all 3 in stock ready to transfer to your in state dealer.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

Sat next to a fellow shooter Using the YHM on his DTA in 338. after 30+ shots My right ear was getting rather raw. It was just a pinch to loud.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

I don't have a .338 can yet, will be getting a thunderbeast when funds allow.

As for the suppressor covers, I run the Tab Gear ones. They definitely keep the heat signature/mirage from the can effecting your view when shooting a longer string, at least in my experience with both 5.56 and .308 cans.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

I don't own a camel yet but when I do, I'll get a Ma'mun 2000 in Sarsoa for a saddle, as for the seat covers, I'll ride with one Mom made.

No .338 can shooting super sonic rounds is ear safe.

The calculations to determine this is very straight forward.

We take the average dB of the round itself:
.338 is approx 171 dB with a 27" barrel

We subtract the suppression value of the suppressor:
World class suppressor for the .338 come in at 33 - 34 dB

That gives us the dB felt at the operator at approx.
137 dB

Then we figure time exposure limits per 24 hours for that level of sound:

_________________________________________________
Reference
A-weighted sound level, dB duration,
in hour per day
_________________________________________________
80................................... 32
81................................... 27.9
82................................... 24.3
83................................... 21.1
84................................... 18.4
85................................... 16
86................................... 13.9
87................................... 12.1
88................................... 10.6
89................................... 9.2
90................................... 8
91................................... 7.0
92................................... 6.1
93................................... 5.3
94................................... 4.6
95................................... 4
96................................... 3.5
97................................... 3.0
98................................... 2.6
99................................... 2.3
100.................................. 2
101.................................. 1.7
102.................................. 1.5
103.................................. 1.3
104.................................. 1.1
105.................................. 1
106.................................. 0.87
107.................................. 0.76
108.................................. 0.66
109.................................. 0.57
110.................................. 0.5
111.................................. 0.44
112.................................. 0.38
113.................................. 0.33
114.................................. 0.29
115.................................. 0.25
116.................................. 0.22
117.................................. 0.19
118.................................. 0.16
119.................................. 0.14
120.................................. 0.125
121.................................. 0.11
122.................................. 0.095
123.................................. 0.082
124.................................. 0.072
125.................................. 0.063
126.................................. 0.054
127.................................. 0.047
128.................................. 0.041
129.................................. 0.036
130.................................. 0.031
______________________________________________

Your 137 dB comes in at less than 20 seconds every 24 hours.

Now you know.....no super sonic .338 Lapua is hearing safe. The values you will take through transmission through your jaw alone will effect your hearing over time. Use a can, plug up. You've been given some great names, YHM not so much.

 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

There is the more knowledgeable post I was referring to. Thanks RollingThunder
PG
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

We are going to be coming out with a .338 LM can probably before the end of the year. Will TBAC will be the benchmark, and out can will should be lighter and at the point of suppression TBAC is at, its hard to get quieter, so it should be right on par. Most importantly is the repeatability, consistency, and accuracy.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't own a camel yet but when I do, I'll get a Ma'mun 2000 in Sarsoa for a saddle, as for the seat covers, I'll ride with one Mom made.
</div></div>

ha ha ha

i know a guy with an eagle stock pack they seem pretty nice. I think ill get one of those.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

The all steel AAC Titan is good in suppression
TBAC 338P
Shark Jaws

AWC Thunder Trap in 338 is about the most quiet I have shot.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The all steel AAC Titan is good in suppression
TBAC 338P
Shark Jaws

AWC Thunder Trap in 338 is about the most quiet I have shot. </div></div>

What does one of the AWCs set you back ($$)?
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

Call them and ask. I found a dealer with one in stock that wanted it gone....
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ...Use a can, plug up...
</div></div>

Seriously important medical advice for anyone who wants to keep their hearing. Both air and bone conduction can kill those cochlear "hair cells."

Can, plugs, and muffs.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

I have a hard time telling the difference between 338P-1 on 338LM and a 30P-1 on a 308. Probably because they are both technically unsafe for exposed ears, but I shoot them both without protection anyways.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

I put in plugs even when shooting suppressed. I bought suppressors for the neighbors.... trying to be courteous. The owner of OPS INC is now almost deaf because he went without ear plugs for so long even running his own suppressors. He wrote a story about it not to long ago on silencertalk.com.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a hard time telling the difference between 338P-1 on 338LM and a 30P-1 on a 308. Probably because they are both technically unsafe for exposed ears, but I shoot them both without protection anyways. </div></div>
They are really close on the meter also
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't own a camel yet but when I do, I'll get a Ma'mun 2000 in Sarsoa for a saddle, as for the seat covers, I'll ride with one Mom made.

No .338 can shooting super sonic rounds is ear safe.

The calculations to determine this is very straight forward.

We take the average dB of the round itself:
.338 is approx 171 dB with a 27" barrel

We subtract the suppression value of the suppressor:
World class suppressor for the .338 come in at 33 - 34 dB

That gives us the dB felt at the operator at approx.
137 dB

Then we figure time exposure limits per 24 hours for that level of sound:

_________________________________________________
Reference
A-weighted sound level, dB duration,
in hour per day
_________________________________________________
80................................... 32
81................................... 27.9
82................................... 24.3
83................................... 21.1
84................................... 18.4
85................................... 16
86................................... 13.9
87................................... 12.1
88................................... 10.6
89................................... 9.2
90................................... 8
91................................... 7.0
92................................... 6.1
93................................... 5.3
94................................... 4.6
95................................... 4
96................................... 3.5
97................................... 3.0
98................................... 2.6
99................................... 2.3
100.................................. 2
101.................................. 1.7
102.................................. 1.5
103.................................. 1.3
104.................................. 1.1
105.................................. 1
106.................................. 0.87
107.................................. 0.76
108.................................. 0.66
109.................................. 0.57
110.................................. 0.5
111.................................. 0.44
112.................................. 0.38
113.................................. 0.33
114.................................. 0.29
115.................................. 0.25
116.................................. 0.22
117.................................. 0.19
118.................................. 0.16
119.................................. 0.14
120.................................. 0.125
121.................................. 0.11
122.................................. 0.095
123.................................. 0.082
124.................................. 0.072
125.................................. 0.063
126.................................. 0.054
127.................................. 0.047
128.................................. 0.041
129.................................. 0.036
130.................................. 0.031
______________________________________________

Your 137 dB comes in at less than 20 seconds every 24 hours.

Now you know.....no super sonic .338 Lapua is hearing safe. The values you will take through transmission through your jaw alone will effect your hearing over time. Use a can, plug up. You've been given some great names, YHM not so much.

</div></div>
Kudos.

Exactly. Use every tool at one's disposal to minimize the exposure no matter what is being fired.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

How your ears "Feel" doesn't have jack to do with "hearing safe". There is no suppressor marketed that can take the decibel rating down to below 80 dB period. It takes the boom off...shooting subsonic is even more comfortable but that's it, feels comfortable.

Hearing damage is a compounding item over time and permanent, unless you're next to arty or high explosives which will do massive damage immediately. Wear hearing protection while at the range.

If the state you hunt in allows hunting with a suppressor and you'll only be taking one shot and it's rare probably not a big issue, but don't fool yourself into thinking there isn't some damage occurring - albeit much less than unsuppressed.
 
Re: Hearing safe .338 Lapua suppressors?

My friend brought his 338LM gap and brake
sitting beside me the brake was blowing my targets off the table.

I shoot suppressed so I wasn't too happy since there was plenty of room..

I did move away from it, plugs and muffs it was still noticeable.