Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

[Alderleet]

While browsing the bolt side quite a bit, i've begun to notice a trend, that I almost got sucked into.

While I was searching for my next purchase, Istarted looking at AI and a TRG. The kicker though, is that with all the precision they have, they would be an absolute shitty experience to hump any sort of distance further than my trunk ---> range table. Walking a ways with a rifle like a TRG or an AI would suck worse than running a marathon holding a microwave oven.

So with that being said, I'm looking for a lighter weight rifle, that still retains very *VERY* good accuracy.

What have you guys come across that seems to fit the bill? I dont neccesarily mean it has to be 7lbs like the gunsite scout, but it just has to be a good balance of weight and precision.

 

[tigerhawk]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

It depends on what you are using the rifle for. Also, how accurate do you want it to be? What is the most you want it to weigh?

 

[Quackaddict]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

I think a very capable rig could be done in the 10-12lb range, heavier than my deer rifles but not a full out 16-18 lb rig

Mid power optic

Lightweight stock option from McM or Manners

22-24 inch barrel, a lighter contour than a rem varmint, maybe some flutes to

Even the magazine makes a difference, 5 rounds is lighter than 10

If you watched what you hung on it I think you could build a very nice rifle.

I plan on doing this very thing for my GF when shes ready.

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

in this tactical game....bigger IS better to a point....you want something that ain't to light weight so as to act as a sail in off-hand positional shooting......know how to use stuff like slings and skid plates and mitts and shooting sticks, and scope covers and all the shit that will make you successful in them first round hits at distance.

the rifle is but a fraction of the "stuff" one has to schlepp in the games that one plays here......back packs, pistols spare boolits ....water ...the list goes on.......


eat your wheaties and carry on

 

[He Shoot Me]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

This:

http://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/tactical-gear/regular-biathlon-sling-rbs.html

Or it's upgraded version:

http://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/tactical-gear/elite-biathlon-sling-ebs.html

-Pat

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

typically the 16lb rifle is not an issue in a match, you so much other shit to worry about the you don't even think about how much your rifle weighs. You worry about how it balances and how it shoots and how you can get more hits with it.

both my match bolt guns weigh 16.5lbs with bipod, scopes/rings, sling, basically ready to rock just add ammo. I don't find them cumbersome at all, what i don't like is rifles that feel super barrel heavy. to me that makes more of a difference than overall weight.

 

[cobaltbomb]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

i have been thinking the same for quite a while,about a lightweight yet accurate gun
and i think the savage precision carbine is pretty close to perfect for the task
add a light scope in the range of 2-10 magnification and you will be under 10 lbs

 

[TonyAngel]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

A barrel doesn't have to be a heavy profile to be accurate and the shorter it is the thinner it can be. I've been thinking along the same lines as you are.

As it stands now, I have two of the Hogue stocks that come on SPS Tactical rifles and an LTR barrel in .308. I'm thinking that I'm going to use one of the Hogue stocks.

I know that just about everyone knocks those stocks, but from what I've seen, they are no impediment to accuracy and they are light.

I want to get the LTR barrel knocked down to 16 or 18" and then put a Nightforce 2.5-10X32 on top. That should make for a pretty handy rig. If it's still too heavy, I'll send the barrel off to ADCO to get it turned down to a sporter profile. Either that or I'll just start off with a Krieger sporter profile barrel.

You'll have to take what I say with a grain of salt because, to date, most of my experience is with AR15s, but I did build some tack drivers and none of them were heavy or bull profiles. I found that with a 16" barrel all that was needed was a quality manufacturered barrel with a midweight profile. I don't see why that wouldn't hold true with bolt guns.

I'd say that you can go as light as you want with the barrel profile and still maintain accuracy as long as you go with a good barrel.

 

[CanPopper]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

I actually had a mobile precision rifle built. Before my modifications, my .300 Win Mag weighed in at 17.5 lbs.

What I did was I had it rebuilt with:
1. Murphy Precision Titanium base
2. Rock Creek-ABS carbon fiber wrapped m24 contour barrel
3. XLR Chasis

After the rebuild, the rifle weighs in at only 13.5 lbs. And this is with the 38oz Zeiss 72mm scope and 1 lb Badger 34mm USMC ultra high steel rings installed! It also shoots 0.4MOA with my best load so far (only shot it 3 times).

The rifle is now very mobile and still wickedly accurate (and wicked looking). I've let people hold it at the range and they were amazed.

 

[Dirty D]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

My hunting rig is a Savage 10PC (20" barreled .308) in a Choate tactical stock with a 5.5-22x56 NXS on top, I average walking 5-6 miles a day thru wooded areas and open fields while chasing Bambi and have been happy with it.

Until...

A friend of mine has a Savage with an 18" Krieger in a light target contour 1/2 MoA rifle in a McMillan A3 topped with a Nightforce 2.5-10. The rifle is a hammer and it is light and VERY easy to handle in tight brush. YMMV and you may have stopped reading when you saw Savage but his rig is exceptionally accurate and very light.

 

[Alderleet]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

I guess this isnt an issue thats brought up much. Kinda odd, but good i guess.

My shop did a 12 mile ruck march a couple days ago, and thats kinda what sparked this. If i had to drag much more than my m4, i'd pretty much be hating life. I understand that a bolt actions serves a different purpose, but it still was a lesson.

I dont want to get too light with it, because then itll be miserable to shoot, however i dont want to get heavy with it. A good half minute shooter, 10-12lbs, with 800yds of good solid repeatable reach.

 

[George63]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

as said before if you go with a light profile barrel, better to keep it short, even when short, a thin barrel is more likely to change POI when it gets hot

 

[steve123]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alderleet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess this isnt an issue thats brought up much. Kinda odd, but good i guess.

My shop did a 12 mile ruck march a couple days ago, and thats kinda what sparked this. If i had to drag much more than my m4, i'd pretty much be hating life. I understand that a bolt actions serves a different purpose, but it still was a lesson.

I dont want to get too light with it, because then itll be miserable to shoot, however i dont want to get heavy with it. A good half minute shooter, 10-12lbs, with 800yds of good solid repeatable reach. </div></div>

I always liked this guys rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNkyLqSwcQY

 

[cvedrick]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

A Remington PSS, Sendero, or varmint profile rifle or equivalent weighs in around 9# Scope, Mount and rings + 2#

If you pay attention to KISS and weight yo ucan get away with a rifle in the 11-12# range that shoots quite well and does not cost a leg and a divorce.

You do not have to have mongo rings, super heavy rails, BORS systems, bubble levels Night vision, and every other doo-dad in the world mounted on your rifle.

Cheek pads help, as do slings. Bi-pods add weight that I would rather have in my ruck, ruck also makes a nice sandbag.

As far is price goes, here is my buddies setup for 1/4MOA

Rem. PSS in .308 $700
Warne 2-piece weaver mounts $35
Warne Maxima low rings $35.00
Super Sniper fixed 10x $300.00

Call it $1200 what with shipping, taxes BC flip ups, sunshade and what-all, loves every load we can run through it hot/cold, light/heavy, mild/ouch.

The average bare M4 without sights, weighs in around 7-1/2# every dohicky added just makes it heavier. One reason I LMAO when I see some of the "Christmas Tree" some folks think is necessary.

 

[Tactical_Tom]

Re: Help: A good balance of weight and precision?

The 308 DT SRS with a 22 inch barrel is 10.4 pounds. Its probably easier to carry as well, because its small.