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madness and insanity. surely if we look back a year from now their crime rates will have dropped precipitously. yes, sarcasm. if i never step foot in jersey again it will be too soon. that's not sarcasm.
Why do so many so called Americans hate America? It's illegal, but in our best interest, right? Fuck that shit. Shouldn't have to hash this out with the Supreme Court, but I guess they're gonna have to. Idiots. Plain and simple.
And as always, the comments after the article are bout 99.9% spot the fuck on.....
And as always, the comments after the article are bout 99.9% spot the fuck on.....
I may have missed it in the article, I don't think it was mentioned, but does the bill specify rifle separate from pistol or just any mag over 10 rounds is illegal?
Does it matter?
Not at all but just wanted some clarification. The huge kick in the nuts is if its for all magazines then almost anyone with a pistol is screwed and now a felon. Thankfully I don't live in Jersey but its only a matter of time until it reaches my state. Based on the new lib governor we just elected I'm guessing 2019.
Discussed at length elsewhere: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=342126&p=3893700#post3893700
It's getting closer every day. I dam near bought another 50 cal this week since I sold my McMillan and Barrett a few years ago.
holy balls batman!!
I hope all LEOs abide by the same, definitely the Governor's state trooper protective detail should. Same goes for the soldiers in the NJ National Guard who also report to the Governor. I know they're not, they never are, because the two class system in America grows every day.
The bullshit of preempting law enforcement from these restrictions is the real assault on the Second Amendment.
The bullshit of preempting law enforcement from these restrictions is the real assault on the Second Amendment.
I blame the citizens of NJ . I went to a rally to protest this shit . You know what. ? About five hundred people ahowed up . Central Jersey Gun Clun probably has one thousand members alone . I'm not even fro Jersey and I showed up . People allow this shit . If ten thousand people show up it ;
Causes traff8vlc problems .
It calls for more police .
It calls for police overtime .
Ten thpusand people get noticed .
But nooooooo . Jersey sat on it's collective sac . You can't save people that don't want saving . Pa. does the same shit .
Causes traff8vlc problems .
It calls for more police .
It calls for police overtime .
Ten thpusand people get noticed .
But nooooooo . Jersey sat on it's collective sac . You can't save people that don't want saving . Pa. does the same shit .
What's sad is that they'll move across the river because we're marginally better off, and still drag their complacency with them.
I hear you. I went to a pro 2A rally at our Capitol in Lincoln, NE when our commie fuck bag city council was wanting to ban bump stocks. There MIGHT have been 50 people.
You want to bend over and grab your ankles, fine. But don't come looking for help when they bury it deep without lube, and don't whine about your rights being taken away when you failed to stand up for them.
Should be mass non compliance. People should send mags there. People there should have a giant rally all holding mags.
And fuck any cop who enforces this shit. You people that support police are retarded. They will enforce every gun law that comes down the pike.
And fuck any cop who enforces this shit. You people that support police are retarded. They will enforce every gun law that comes down the pike.
When was that? Wish I’d have known about it.
This is all too often what happens. Gun owners stick their head in the panic-buy when its too late.....
we should start sending random care packages of 30 round P Mags to NJ.
There's many a sheriff across the nation that vocally ignore the enforcement of gun laws. This is why local elections matter every bit as much as national.
Google told me a place to mail them:
New Jersey Democratic State Committee
194-196 West State Street, Trenton, NJ 08608
If you send any thing to the Governor who signed this bill would be packages of dog shit , 100 million gun owners if 10% participated would send a message that this bill stinks. Simple envelope would work to keep cost down.
I used to live there. I went to many rallies with hundreds and hundreds of people. It all meant shit! Jersey is a cesspool of liberalism in the northern and southern parts. Central Jersey is a mostly sensible republican place but as the sanctuary cities grow there is less and less hope. Central Jersey rifle & pistol is one of the nicest places I have ever shot. There are a lot of good people behind enemy lines....
Jersey is in its own class of stupid, always trying to be more like their big brother one state up. Fuck them, their voters got what they asked for. Just like Californians and Coloradans, those who love freedom should leave in droves and take their wages and thereby tax dollars with them. Those who stay and acquiesce, I have no sympathy for Stockholm Syndrome.
One step closer...
One step closer...
It's all magazines for semi-auto guns. Pistols and rifles.
There's an exception for tube-fed .22lr rifles (like the Marlin model 60) but otherwise they're all banned now.
Ironically most of the people who will violate the law will probably be the "average' gun owner here who takes his pistol to the indoor range once a year. There are tons of people like that who aren't active on forums and don't keep up on "gun politics" so they have their semi-auto Glock, Sig, M&P, etc with 15 round magazines sitting in the safe until the next outing.
We'll see if the douchebags at the indoor ranges try to rat people out when they see the violators come in.
Gun guys here are a bit like beaten dogs, so they have a natural fear of coming out in the open and ending up on a "list" somewhere or being arrested and having your guns taken away for no reason.
What address would work best?
Thats my point, most gun owners our family men not 1% percenters and lazy. Secondly NJ is controlled by democrats with a democratic liberal dancing governor who protects illegal aliens more so then legal residents. 100,000 people could of showed up to protest and the ban would still be past, you can't beat gun control with pens.People can't comprehend not being free or under rule of a oppressive government, they can't see their rights being slowly eroded year after year. People will not act like John Adams until they have lived that life for awhile.In this day and age people follow the law or what ever the government tells them, From my Cold Dead Hands I would say 1% percenters following that creed not the masses.
What are you waiting on? Do it!
I think lots of gun owners are worried about being identified. They’d rather there guns be secret than to have it all on the open.
Don’t waste any PMags. They will Judy be intercepted at the post office.
Not me though. I don't blatantly advertise the fact with big ass stickers and tin plates like the "Prayer is the Best Way To Meet the Lord" decal all over my vehicle or home, but I do not conceal the fact that I am a gun owner and a hunter when I am talking to different folks. And I make sure they know why I own guns. To put it bluntly, so you and your kids can sleep safe at night because if something wants to hurt them, there will be neighbors like me who WILL fuck the perps up.
I don't get into long and drawn out pissing contests with antis. Because pissing contests do not really accomplish anything. Even if you win, you ain't gon' get someone to buy you an extra drink. I state my facts, make sure I make sense, and move on with regular business.
I am also a well-practiced archer too and I have hunted since I was 7 years old.
I know what you are saying, but I think a lot of gun owners are paranoid and afraid of the boogie man or big brother or becoming a target. So, most don’t readily go out advertising.
Hi,
I’m Bender, I would like to take a minute to discuss a PSA about Wyoming.
We hate your stupid commie shit and we are closed to all retards. If you’re wondering if you’re a retard, you probably are. If you’re offended by the word retard, or have ever used a pronoun to describe your sexual preference, you are definitely retarded. And you’re not welcome in Wyoming.
Thank you for your time.
Ps. If you ever have been a proponent of socialism/communism, please take a toaster bath.
Bender.
I’m Bender, I would like to take a minute to discuss a PSA about Wyoming.
We hate your stupid commie shit and we are closed to all retards. If you’re wondering if you’re a retard, you probably are. If you’re offended by the word retard, or have ever used a pronoun to describe your sexual preference, you are definitely retarded. And you’re not welcome in Wyoming.
Thank you for your time.
Ps. If you ever have been a proponent of socialism/communism, please take a toaster bath.
Bender.
I am Alpha Tree Dog and I approve this message . Yeah Pa. needs vetting . Tards from Jersey move here because of all the liberal Dem bullshit and crazy taxes .
Yet they still vote Libtard . Their cars are plastered with ; COEXIST , Bernie , Kahle Yeah and other Libtard shit . They don't change their liscense plates which is really stupid . Pa. auto Ins is way cheaper than Jersey . Stupid is stupid does .
Gun guys, and most folks in general, are like that everywhere. That's one of the main reasons I created this thread.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
These laws are based around money. More votes equals more money. More pushback from the NRA equals more money from donors like Bloomberg, etc. If stopping crime was really a concern, why not just go after the criminals in Newark, Camden, Trenton, Atlantic City, etc??
Crime like terrorism is good for the statists. It gets them more power and control and money.
They destroy the family creating generations of fatherless criminals, and bring in all kinds of illegals and "refugees" that commit all kinds of crime. Then turn around and put you in jail if you have the means to defend yourself without a permission slip. This makes people look to .gov for help. They create a problem so they can be the solution.
It's why they brainwash kids from pre k on up to rely on the teacher/.gov for evedything. Can't have people being self reliant. If you defend yourself in school (punch back) you get the same punishment as the person who punched first.
Self reliant people don't need government that's why they try to get rid of them or make th dependent.
They destroy the family creating generations of fatherless criminals, and bring in all kinds of illegals and "refugees" that commit all kinds of crime. Then turn around and put you in jail if you have the means to defend yourself without a permission slip. This makes people look to .gov for help. They create a problem so they can be the solution.
It's why they brainwash kids from pre k on up to rely on the teacher/.gov for evedything. Can't have people being self reliant. If you defend yourself in school (punch back) you get the same punishment as the person who punched first.
Self reliant people don't need government that's why they try to get rid of them or make th dependent.
A friend pointed out the interesting fallout of this strategy.... it's a good way to strip voting rights from Republicans. Get convicted and, boom, vote gone.
Dems have more creative ways to disenfranchise the opposition ranging from cancelling out their votes with illegal/dead votes... to stripping away rights to cascading ballots and ballot harvesting. And taking away rights by making up felonies. And when they still lose on their ideas' merits... well, keep voting on a subject until you get the result you want... then it's settled policy. Until then, it's just a failed system, stupid voters, etc. etc.
Well, it's the Communist way. Why should we be the least big surprised that what worked from 1917 until the 1990's would go away.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Dems have more creative ways to disenfranchise the opposition ranging from cancelling out their votes with illegal/dead votes... to stripping away rights to cascading ballots and ballot harvesting. And taking away rights by making up felonies. And when they still lose on their ideas' merits... well, keep voting on a subject until you get the result you want... then it's settled policy. Until then, it's just a failed system, stupid voters, etc. etc.
Well, it's the Communist way. Why should we be the least big surprised that what worked from 1917 until the 1990's would go away.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Better file some lawsuits while you can still defend yourself. 15 rounds banned. Then 10 rounds. Pretty soon it's going to be down to break action single shots then they will be banned. Then you won't be able to file any lawsuits.
My buddy lives in Jersey and I break his balls about the seven and a half round mag limit just ta piss him off . Surprised he hasn't clocked me yet .
The Toaster Bath challenge...I like it. Libs love a good challenge.
I always go straight to the comments. You get more out of the comments than you do the article.
I moved out of there 40 years ago. In order to buy a pistol you needed a letter from 3 friends saying you were not crazy.
I was a member of the Gary Owen Gun Club in Clinton. Is that still around?
I was a member of the Gary Owen Gun Club in Clinton. Is that still around?
Do not comply with this "law". It is null and void.
Notice how a lot of the Pravda sites are disabling comments? They hate truth.
New Jersey just figured out how to turn a bunch of felony fours into a bunch of felony ones. The for-profit prison system will be thrilled.
Thanks for the relief. I'd like to mosey up your way and buy your family a nice meal.
None of the big liberal companies/sites have comments enabled on any of their sites. They just post the article as gospel.
I live in Laramie. Believe me, we already have plenty......
Not great advice.
While I hope it gets overturned (local gun organizations are already in litigation) I don't think it makes sense for anyone in the state to lose existing gun rights as the test case.
Until it's overturned in the courts it's the law of the land, so violation has consequences.
Would be analogous to telling someone to ignore restrictions on silencers or automatic weapons.
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