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Depends how far you want to go and how much money you want to spend.
The further out you go, the bigger and faster you want your projectile to be.
The further out you go, the bigger and faster you want your projectile to be.
1200 to where?
1500 6.5CM
2000 7mm or 30 magnum
2300 338 something
3000 375 something
1500 6.5CM
2000 7mm or 30 magnum
2300 338 something
3000 375 something
I thought my 300PRC was the 2019 hotness? I built it for 1000 to 2000 yards and it has hit at 2500. Anything longer than that I would build another rifle for it.....if I had access to shoot more than once or twice. I don't see myself building anything longer range for the foreseeable future. I'm actually going to build another rifle for sub 1000 that is higher quality than my current 308/6.5 setups.
So...maybe a higher influx of 6mm builds for 2020.
28 or 30 Nosler up to 1500 yd,and of course a 300NM or 338 LM up to 2000yd,anything beyond that i'd go with a 375 projo.
That’s a bit conservative on the Nosler cartridges.
my 7 saum hammers at a mile and at 1950 yards did quite well.
Hell, my 260 does well at 1500.
I have limited experience with a 338 lapua at 2300 and that wasn’t overly difficult and I was a full on newb then.
I agree..
I tend to always lean more toward the conservative and more practical shooting limits of a cartridge eventhough they can certainly go beyond that.
I guess one can say the 223 can reach out to 1500,but is that practical.
Like their are guys here shooting 308s out to 1500-2000yd,sure you can, and hit targets every so often.when you can do it much better with a 338LM,300NM or even a smaller wildcat. ,
Hit at what rate and what target size? If you keep the target size at 1 MOA and want anywhere NEAR a 50% hit rate, you're going to want something big like a 338 LM or bigger. Part of the issue will be spotting your misses.
If you just want to be able to say "I hit something (of any size, with any number of shots) at XYZ yardage" then anything will do. Like that PRC. No doubt in my mind you can go set up a 36" target at a mile and make a couple of marks on it, especially right after dawn or right before dusk, but hitting realistic sized targets with realistic hit ratios past a mile is very hard. put up a 18" target at a mile with any wind variability whatsoever, and you're going to have a 10% hit ratio tops. If that's all your're after, fine. But there is no more hot magic in 2020 than there was in 2010 - speed and size matter past 1000 yards.
If you just want to be able to say "I hit something (of any size, with any number of shots) at XYZ yardage" then anything will do. Like that PRC. No doubt in my mind you can go set up a 36" target at a mile and make a couple of marks on it, especially right after dawn or right before dusk, but hitting realistic sized targets with realistic hit ratios past a mile is very hard. put up a 18" target at a mile with any wind variability whatsoever, and you're going to have a 10% hit ratio tops. If that's all your're after, fine. But there is no more hot magic in 2020 than there was in 2010 - speed and size matter past 1000 yards.
Love my 28 nosler to the mile (24x24) and pretty consistent when wind is below 7-8 mph.
Been to 2000 with it. Even at that distance, I was able to spot the misses just fine. (and there were plenty of them at 2k) I am positive the main issue is the guy behind the gun.
Been to 2000 with it. Even at that distance, I was able to spot the misses just fine. (and there were plenty of them at 2k) I am positive the main issue is the guy behind the gun.
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Oh, did I say that out loud??
Come shoot in the wind. Now I’ve heard of a 338 bullet with a bc over 1.0 that might make that true
yea
Because in Eastern Washington and Oregon we never get any kind of wind nor does the wind ever blow on the Oregon coast.
That sweet sweet AI ELR chambered up in 375 CT, so long as we get them before Fall
3643 yrds = 3/5 shots once dialed in (11 shots) with standard 375 CT
1 MOA sized target
352 cutting edge
125 grains powder retumbo
funny thing is my buddies all out shot me... I’m just the weekend warrior tag along...
view through spotter 60
yes that little red dot)300 WM is easy medicine but 6.5CM and 308 will get you there. 300WM, 6.5CM,308.....then PRC's will give you a bump if you buy factory. Otherwise, if you reload, the handholds will perform to factory PRC loads.
PB
PB
when you really want to reach out and touch something ...
https://taskandpurpose.com/army-m1299-howitzer-designation its pretty hot . and I think with my bad eyes I might be able to spot the misses .
https://taskandpurpose.com/army-m1299-howitzer-designation its pretty hot . and I think with my bad eyes I might be able to spot the misses .
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3643 yrds = 3/5 shots once dialed in (11 shots) with standard 375 CT
1 MOA sized target
352 cutting edge
125 grains powder retumbo
funny thing is my buddies all out shot me... I’m just the weekend warrior tag along...
view through spotter 60
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someday!
I have a place in eastern Oregon I could go 4000 yards.
I’m now researching options
33 or 37xc seem right for me.
Either one single fed in an AXMC is money!!
My friend is having good luck with the 37xc at the same distances as my 375ct. He is getting the roughly the same AVG FPS as I am with the 400 gr CE lazers. 2916 ish with single digit SD's.
That’s what I keep seeing
How long is his brass lasting?
Not sure who’s making XC brass but 2.25 per seems pretty reasonable.
580 bolt face works for these calibers?
Yes. I believe it's .585
So you have an AXMC with the 338 LM bolt and have shot 33XC and/or 37XC single fed without issue?
If yes, you are making my day
Broke the record for most money down a shoulder fired weapon with a single trigger pull.
Peterson Cartridge Company is making the 33XC brass for Superior Shooting Systems.
Sincerd
416 Warner pushing a 550 Flat Line at a easy on the brass 3145 fps - very happy with the performance
Oneshot.onehit
JH
416 Warner pushing a 550 Flat Line at a easy on the brass 3145 fps - very happy with the performance
Oneshot.onehit
JH
That .416 is nice. A friend of my just bought a ULR extreme in .416 for what he considered a good price. I have to say the ELR looks fun and challenging! @ oneshot.onehit tell me about your rifle build i.e action barrel..
Thanks!
Thanks!
Do you have to remove the bolt on an axmc to remove an unfired round that is chambered?
Yes
Thank you.
M113A3
The rifle was built and chambered by Warner Tool Co.
Action is a Barnard GP
Barrel is a 39” Bartlein 8 twist
Stock is a Mc Millian Beast
Warner adjustable scope base
Warner MOAB muzzle brake
Vortex Gen II Razor 4.5-27x56 MRAD scope
Rifle weight - 41.8 lbs
20N29 powder
RWS primers
RWS brass
In 2018 and 2019 I used a squeeze bag in the back and a Atlas 5H bi-pod in the front
For 2020 I changed it up with a Edgewood bag in the back and a Phoenix bi-pod up front as shown.
Rifle has been used with good results for
2018, 2019 King of 2 Mile - tuff switching wind at 2019 event
2019 NRA Extreme ELR
2019 Spear Point Finale
Bullets used with “easy on the brass” speed with rifle
2018 - 400 grain 375s running 3360 fps Flat Lines - used with a 375 chambered 35” Bartlein
2019 - 505 grain 416s running 3250 fps Flat Lines
2020 - 550 grain 416s running 3145 fps Flat Lines
I may tweak the load some yet for 2020 but it should float somewhere in that 3145 fps accuracy node.
Pictured is a loaded 260 round for comparison.
Cheers
Oneshot.onehit
JH
Nice - THANKS!
SOP=shitload of pesos?
That's one way of looking at it haha
Nice summary!
I think it’s pretty accurate from my observations and not pushing things to the limit.
