How boycotted gun, knife, and outdoor products companies can regain our trust

[Milf Dots]

Legitimate boycotts by us shooters aren't unheard of in the shooting sports, knife, and outdoor sports world, and boycotts aren't always intended to last forever. Here are some ways a company can redeem itself


1) Company is sold to new owners, ex: S&W, Team Wendy helmets, Colt


2) Company enters and competes in a business segment it once denounced, ex: Ruger (The deceased Bill Ruger denounced ARs & normal capacity mags, and now his sons make decent value ARs and semi-auto pistols- all with normal mag capacities in non-restricted states.)


3) A theoretical method, because I can't recall any industry entities that have done this: A complete change in all management, and admission of everything including the lies and coverups, and then beg for forgiveness. This can only work when new management admits ALL lies, misleading info, and the coverups are fully aired.


4) A reversal of any jab, mask, and testing mandates, and the rehiring of anyone fired under such Nazi-like rules.



Some entities are not eligible for redemption because their very existence is the offense, and this covers all CCP companies like Olight, Holoson, Swampfix, Phenix, Nightcore, and others.

 

[918v]

4) Take a proactive stance against the opposition: For example, introducing a FJB model with special features.

 

[Milf Dots]

4) Take a proactive stance against the opposition: For example, introducing a FJB model with special features.

If in your above example the proactive stance is taken by the legitimately boycotted entity, and the opposition you refer to are the consumers...

Then no, your example is invalid because by definition anyone that weak willed to end a boycott due to some new feature- wouldn't have supported the boycott to begin with.

 

[918v]

If in your above example the proactive stance is taken by the legitimately boycotted entity, and the opposition you refer to are the consumers...

Then no, your example is invalid because by definition anyone that weak willed to end a boycott due to some new feature- wouldn't have supported the boycott to begin with.

No, the opposition is not the consumers. The opposition are the gun grabbing commies. If a gun manufacturer wants to redeem itself it needs to take a proactive stance against the opposition rather than being neutral.

 

[Milf Dots]

No, the opposition is not the consumers. The opposition are the gun grabbing commies. If a gun manufacturer wants to redeem itself it needs to take a proactive stance against the opposition rather than being neutral.

Ah, now I understand your point. I edited my title to better clarify the point and scope of my thread.

 

[RUTGERS95]

all I know is no one, absolutely no one should be buying Troy products

 

[Longshot231]

all I know is no one, absolutely no one should be buying Troy products

All Troy products are backed by the highest paid government killer. FLH.

 

[Milf Dots]

All Troy products are backed by the highest paid government killer. FLH.

Like many, I haven't bought a single Troy product since they hired Lon Horiachi's FBI partner.

 

[LawnMM]

They could close their doors and set their buildings on fire, that might buy some good will from the Antifa / BLM crowd

 

[hlee]

There’s a lot of text in the first post, for what I assume is just a vehicle for the OP to- again- say “screw China.”

 

[Longshot231]

I stopped drinking Black Rifle Coffee when they decided to distance themselves from Kyle Rittenhouse.

 

[Naaman]

I stopped drinking Black Rifle Coffee when they decided to distance themselves from Kyle Rittenhouse.

I'm still kind of amazed that they seem clueless as to their primary market...

 

[Milf Dots]

Off the top of my head (companies/groups in the gun, knives/tools, and outdoor gear markets)


BHA/Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (Left wing radicals)
Steve Rinella/MeatEaters (See BHA above)
First Lite (See above)
HS Precision
Troy Industries
Benchmade Knives
Hornady
Springfield Armory
Black Rifle Coffee
Yeti coolers
Carhartt
Levi Strauss
Camping World
NAAGA/National African American Gun Association (Left wing Radicals)
John Brown Gun Clubs (Left wing Rads)
The Liberal Gun Club (Left wing Rads)
Redneck Revolt (Left Wing Rads)
SRA/Socialist Rifle Association (Left Wing Rads)




CCP companies (a.k.a. Chinese companies, not just products made in China)
Holoson
Olite
Swampfox
Nitecore lights
Fenix lights

Ryobi Tools
Milwaukee Tools
Orange color Ridgid tools are made and owned via license, by a CCP company (red color Ridgid tools are still the American Ridgid brand)
Eureka vacuums
Carrier Air Conditioning
G.E. appliances
Haier appliances
Smithfield foods- bacon, sausage, ham, etc

 

[Arc Light]

Certain companies can never be redeemed. I am thinking specifically about the aptly named Dick's Sporting Goods.

 

[Bullfrog08]

If you get on my boycott list, youre not getting off.

 

[hlee]

Off the top of my head (companies in the gun, knives/tools, and outdoor gear markets)


Troy
Carhartt
Levi Strauss
Yeti
Benchmade Knives
Springfield Armory
Black Rifle Coffee



CCP companies
Holoson
Olite
Swampfox
Nitecor
Fenix
Ryobi Tools
Milwaukee Tools
Orange color Ridgid tools are made and owned via license, by a CCP company (red color Ridgid are still the American Ridgid brand)
Eureka vaccums
Carrier Air Conditioning

Perhaps off topic, but Carrier AC- who purports to build their units in the US, is owned by UTC, based in Hartford CT. That based- admittedly- on about 5 min of internet sleuthing. What is your basis for labeling them a CCP Corp? I didn’t look up the rest of the lost, but go by a philosophy of “ if any of the list is suspect, all of the list is suspect...”

 

[Longshot231]

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on the message. Sorry but I noticed that the sound and video is out of sync. It wasn't this way when I first viewed a few years ago.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Off the top of my head (companies in the gun, knives/tools, and outdoor gear markets)


Troy
Benchmade Knives
Springfield Armory
Black Rifle Coffee
Yeti
Carhartt
Levi Strauss



CCP companies (a.k.a. Chinese companies, not just products made in China)
Holoson
Olite
Swampfox
Nitecore lights
Fenix lights

Ryobi Tools
Milwaukee Tools
Orange color Ridgid tools are made and owned via license, by a CCP company (red color Ridgid tools are still the American Ridgid brand)
Eureka vacuums
Carrier Air Conditioning
G.E. appliances
Haier appliances
Smithfield foods- bacon, sausage, ham, etc

isn't ryobi korean?

 

[hlee]

isn't ryobi korean?

Licensed by Techtronic industries, based in Hong Kong. But, let’s not let facts get in the way of a good rant…

I found this, but note that TTI is not on the list…

Pentagon releases list of 20 companies linked to Chinese military

The Pentagon released a list of 20 companies that it says are owned or controlled by Communist China’s military and operate in the US – including tech giant Huawei, according to a repor…

nypost.com

 

[Don-n-Texas]

FBI, ATF, IRS needs to be boycotted too.

 

[Naaman]

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on the message. Sorry but I noticed that the sound and video is out of sync. It wasn't this way when I first viewed a few years ago.

Every time this issue comes up, the immediate interpretation seems to be that the people who don't want Chinese-made stuff don't want it because it's poor quality.

Speaking for myself, the quality has nothing to do with it.

I see it as hypocritical for companies whose business relies on the 2A to have their products made by slave labor. If Nightforce, Eotech, Trijicon, etc, were making their optics in China, I would absolutely not buy them. Trijicon does make their 3x magnifier in China, which really ticks me off, and Eotech used to make the G30 for a short time in China, but they discontinued it (not sure why, but I wonder if they just didn't like doing business with China).

For me, a product need not be made in the US... I just don't want to fund communist governments (which is why I don't buy stuff out of Russia, either).

 

[lonegunman762x51]

I had a Dodge dealer try and cheat me in 1985. Since then, I have helped hundreds of people avoid buying a Dodge. When I met my wife she drove a Dodge Caravan and kind of liked it, I bought her something else she likes even more and no one in my family drives a Dodge. I will never own one and if I won one in a raffle I'd fucking trade it for anything else.

Levi's is extremely anti-gun and when I wrote them and asked them if this was true they sent me a letter back explaining they as a corporation felt we needed to be disarmed and was proud to fund anti-gun groups. As my Levis wore out I replaced them, Dockers too and have never bought a product from them since.........................................I will never buy their Chinese made crap.

Colt makes shit guns and is/was owned by the state of Connecticut and unions for many years. They make poor quality products at high prices. I do not buy anything from them.

I try and buy American for everything possible, it is worth the extra to get something better. That being said, the day the asshole who runs Camping World said, "If you voted for Trump you are not welcome in my stores" I left and never went back, fuck Good Sam.

None other than Malcolm X asked in the 1960's. Why do you spend money at stores and with companies that do not treat you with respect and dignity? I agree with him on this one topic 100%

The question is, Why are you spending money on goods and services with people or companies that disrespect you and our nation?

 

[FjallJager]

I really hate the double agent companies.

The First Lite and Yeti problem is probably way bigger than we think it is.

Communist anti-gunners who like hunting (Steven Rinella), and groups like the Backcountry Huntes and Anglers (fags) are in bed with one another and this has spread under the radar (for most of us) to a wide variety of institutions we know and love.

How the fuck do we keep track of who is a fucking red blooded cowboy and who is related to that cunt chelseas clinton?

About 20 years ago we went through this shit with Smith and Wesson and some commie Brit.

 

[stefan73]

I had a Dodge dealer try and cheat me in 1985. Since then, I have helped hundreds of people avoid buying a Dodge. When I met my wife she drove a Dodge Caravan and kind of liked it, I bought her something else she likes even more and no one in my family drives a Dodge. I will never own one and if I won one in a raffle I'd fucking trade it for anything else.

Levi's is extremely anti-gun and when I wrote them and asked them if this was true they sent me a letter back explaining they as a corporation felt we needed to be disarmed and was proud to fund anti-gun groups. As my Levis wore out I replaced them, Dockers too and have never bought a product from them since.........................................I will never buy their Chinese made crap.

Colt makes shit guns and is/was owned by the state of Connecticut and unions for many years. They make poor quality products at high prices. I do not buy anything from them.

I try and buy American for everything possible, it is worth the extra to get something better. That being said, the day the asshole who runs Camping World said, "If you voted for Trump you are not welcome in my stores" I left and never went back, fuck Good Sam.

None other than Malcolm X asked in the 1960's. Why do you spend money at stores and with companies that do not treat you with respect and dignity? I agree with him on this one topic 100%

The question is, Why are you spending money on goods and services with people or companies that disrespect you and our nation?

Colt was bought by CZ. I like CZ, very good company that also owns Dan Wesson.

 

[stefan73]

First I heard,

Troy stands by their employee, Lon Horiuchi’s partner at Ruby Ridge! UPDATE #4.

Troy Industries really stepped hip deep in the kimchee with their hiring of Jody Weis as an instructor in their training division, Troy Assymetric. Today, a day after Guns Save Life shared their ne…

www.gunssavelife.com

 

[RUTGERS95]

First I heard,

Troy stands by their employee, Lon Horiuchi’s partner at Ruby Ridge! UPDATE #4.

Troy Industries really stepped hip deep in the kimchee with their hiring of Jody Weis as an instructor in their training division, Troy Assymetric. Today, a day after Guns Save Life shared their ne…

www.gunssavelife.com

won't own a single thing Troy and will shame anyone I can for using them. Troy basically said FU to concerns and continued to do so. fk Troy

 

[daylate]

I really hate the double agent companies.

The First Lite and Yeti problem is probably way bigger than we think it is.

Communist anti-gunners who like hunting (Steven Rinella), and groups like the Backcountry Huntes and Anglers (fags) are in bed with one another and this has spread under the radar (for most of us) to a wide variety of institutions we know and love.

How the fuck do we keep track of who is a fucking red blooded cowboy and who is related to that cunt chelseas clinton?

About 20 years ago we went through this shit with Smith and Wesson and some commie Brit.

Hate to ask… but what is the first lite deal?

 

[hlee]

Hate to ask… but what is the first lite deal?

Apparently made in China.

 

[theLBC]

i dunno, but being a poor, i don't think i buy enough stuff to care or make a difference if i did.
i do own some chinese products, but all except one were purchased before 2020.
when i bought the arrowhead, i wasn't really thinking about where it was made, but i suppose i made up for that by mounting in a scalarworks mount that cost as much as the scope (and is made here).

 

[FjallJager]

Hate to ask… but what is the first lite deal?

No there is more to it than the China connection, everything is made in China. Rare for things not to be. Americans don't want factory jobs.

The problem for First Lite and Yeti has to do with Steven Rinella, the Back Country Hunters and Anglers (BCHA) and Land Tawney the communist.

Land Tawney | Activist FactsActivist Facts

Land Tawney is a liberal activist and executive director of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (BHA). True to form, he is certainly good at camouflaging himself. Tawney wants the public to believe he’s an advocate for public lands and the most trusted spokesman for sportsmen and hunters

www.activistfacts.com

first lite connection to land tawney - Search Videos

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Ep. 278: The Public Land Revolution is Alive with Land Tawney | MeatEater Podcasts

Today on the show I’m joined by Land Tawney, CEO of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers, to discuss the 2019 BHA Rendezvous, the success of the #KeepItPublic movement, a new round of challenges facing public lands, and predictions for the future....See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information...

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Be careful who you buy from and what groups you support.

Their goals are to remove all private lands from ranchers and timber companies (private timber lands) and put it in the public coffer.

Socialism is a wonderful thing as long as you are at the top of the socialist food tray.

Everyone else is a poor Chinese, Cuban or North Korean peasant.

 

[Bullfrog08]

i dunno, but being a poor, i don't think i buy enough stuff to care or make a difference if i did.
i do own some chinese products, but all except one were purchased before 2020.
when i bought the arrowhead, i wasn't really thinking about where it was made, but i suppose i made up for that by mounting in a scalarworks mount that cost as much as the scope (and is made here).

We all own Chinese shit and have to support those businesses that stand against us, from time to time. The important thing is trying your dam hardest not to support them. Shedding things like Facebook is a no brainer and everyone should, its an easy thing to do. I'll spend the extra money to support those that support what I believe in.

 

[theLBC]

We all own Chinese shit and have to support those businesses that stand against us, from time to time. The important thing is trying your dam hardest not to support them. Shedding things like Facebook is a no brainer and everyone should, its an easy thing to do. I'll spend the extra money to support those that support what I believe in.

i have never stepped foot in walmart.
i would rather pay more than support them.
/i have no issues with poors buying milk and diapers there.

 

[acudaowner]

why would ammo and powder or primer companies even try to get your trust back when your trapped into buying there procucts one way or another not like your going to make your own powder and primers or press your own brass . Id almost be happy to buy cheap Chinese primers at this point have only seen normal primers once in two years and at one hell of a mark up . Not that there is anything wrong with over charging but nigher is there with a flood of cheaper options that work to force prices back to normal either .

 

[Milf Dots]

I can't believe I forgot the Turkish gun makers- I'll have to make a list of them. Turkey is still technically in NATO but under Erdogan they've made a hard turn toward stricter islam and have cozied up to China and Russia while distancing themselves from the western world, and while holding American bombs and missiles hostage at our base.