Would it be even remotely possible to modify a Tikka magwell so that standard AR-15 mags could be used in place of the cheap factory polymer mag?
Gunsmithing How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
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Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
You could get a CDI Precision DBM for the Tikka, and run some of the AICS mags. I think it's nearly a frop-in fir for the Tikka factory bottom metal.
You could get a CDI Precision DBM for the Tikka, and run some of the AICS mags. I think it's nearly a frop-in fir for the Tikka factory bottom metal.
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
Yea, I have heard about CDI, but its pretty costly. I can have easy access to old aluminum ar-15 mags, so if they could be made to work then i dont have to buy any more mags.
Im wondering if its a possible do it yourself job.
Yea, I have heard about CDI, but its pretty costly. I can have easy access to old aluminum ar-15 mags, so if they could be made to work then i dont have to buy any more mags.
Im wondering if its a possible do it yourself job.
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
and i heard they have better mags available too. but nothing on the ar15 mag conversion
and i heard they have better mags available too. but nothing on the ar15 mag conversion
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
First of all, the T3 poly mag is not cheap. Have you seen what they are getting for them?
I have the CDI installed in my T3 Tactical and am very happy with the fit, finish and customer service I got from Jeff at CDI. It is $209, IIRC, without a mag. Installation costs another $125 or so. I would think if you're handy enough to think you can build a DBM that uses AR mags for your rifle that you could easily install the CDI yourself and save that money.
BTW, if you take a metal AR mag and a poly mag, place them on your driveway and then drive over them with your truck I think you might be surprised which one survives.
First of all, the T3 poly mag is not cheap. Have you seen what they are getting for them?
I have the CDI installed in my T3 Tactical and am very happy with the fit, finish and customer service I got from Jeff at CDI. It is $209, IIRC, without a mag. Installation costs another $125 or so. I would think if you're handy enough to think you can build a DBM that uses AR mags for your rifle that you could easily install the CDI yourself and save that money.
BTW, if you take a metal AR mag and a poly mag, place them on your driveway and then drive over them with your truck I think you might be surprised which one survives.
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
Sorry about using cheap. I suppose that wasnt the best word choice. I do know how much they are asking. about $50 some places. but you can get aluminum ar mags for like 15 bucks some places.
I would be able to install the bottom metal if i bought it from CDI, but i dont want to pay the $209 plus mags. I think it would be cheaper to modify the magwell somehow on my own.
Sorry about using cheap. I suppose that wasnt the best word choice. I do know how much they are asking. about $50 some places. but you can get aluminum ar mags for like 15 bucks some places.
I would be able to install the bottom metal if i bought it from CDI, but i dont want to pay the $209 plus mags. I think it would be cheaper to modify the magwell somehow on my own.
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
If you could come up with something that worked well I think there would be a market for it. I did see a while back on here that someone was making a DMN kit to convert R700 to take AR mags.
Good luck!
If you could come up with something that worked well I think there would be a market for it. I did see a while back on here that someone was making a DMN kit to convert R700 to take AR mags.
Good luck!
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
thanks. sounds like i will need the luck.
If anyone else viewing this has ideas, throw them out here.
Do you know if the R700 modification ever worked?
thanks. sounds like i will need the luck.
If anyone else viewing this has ideas, throw them out here.
Do you know if the R700 modification ever worked?
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
Do you have any idea where i could find the thread about the mod for a r700 to take ar-15 mags? I searched it, but no luck
Do you have any idea where i could find the thread about the mod for a r700 to take ar-15 mags? I searched it, but no luck
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
I didn't find the old post on the conversion but did find one for a conversion using Mini-14 mags. It is called the JAG conversion.
Here's the link to Snipers Hide Google search:
http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=010955838166721108978:qcbx5qqy10o&hl=en
I didn't find the old post on the conversion but did find one for a conversion using Mini-14 mags. It is called the JAG conversion.
Here's the link to Snipers Hide Google search:
http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=010955838166721108978:qcbx5qqy10o&hl=en
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
You can't use AR mags in a T3 (or Rem 700) without milling open the magazine well. AR mags are wide at the feedlips. Further, the AR feeds from a true staggered feed mag. This means that the case does not protrude above the feedlips at all. In an AR, this is no problem, the bolt lug reaches down into the mag and grabs the round. The bolt carrier has cutouts to clear the feedlips. These cutouts are not possible on a T3 because the bolt body must rotate as you close the bolt. Basically you have to rely on whatever part of the T3 bolt can squeeze between the AR mag feedlips to grab the round. You won't get very much contact but it might be enough for non-professional shooting.
Allegedly with Mini-14 mags you don't have to modify the magwell on a 700 because the mag body and feedlips are narrower and will fit. And apparently the above company has had some success with their mag kit, although if I remember correctly, it was several years ago that they were trying to bring this to market.
Justin
You can't use AR mags in a T3 (or Rem 700) without milling open the magazine well. AR mags are wide at the feedlips. Further, the AR feeds from a true staggered feed mag. This means that the case does not protrude above the feedlips at all. In an AR, this is no problem, the bolt lug reaches down into the mag and grabs the round. The bolt carrier has cutouts to clear the feedlips. These cutouts are not possible on a T3 because the bolt body must rotate as you close the bolt. Basically you have to rely on whatever part of the T3 bolt can squeeze between the AR mag feedlips to grab the round. You won't get very much contact but it might be enough for non-professional shooting.
Allegedly with Mini-14 mags you don't have to modify the magwell on a 700 because the mag body and feedlips are narrower and will fit. And apparently the above company has had some success with their mag kit, although if I remember correctly, it was several years ago that they were trying to bring this to market.
Justin
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
Thanks for clearing it up. I may have been thinking about the Remington pump that was made for AR mags.
I saw a T3 in one of your KRG stocks a couple of weeks ago. That is a great looking stock!
Thanks for clearing it up. I may have been thinking about the Remington pump that was made for AR mags.
I saw a T3 in one of your KRG stocks a couple of weeks ago. That is a great looking stock!
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
Thanks! Yeah I remember that pump rifle. I wonder what happened to it, you don't see too many around it seems.
Thanks! Yeah I remember that pump rifle. I wonder what happened to it, you don't see too many around it seems.
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
Alutek.eu are manufacturing the best well made bottommetals for T3 that I have seen, both for orignal mags and for AICS mags.
Just got their boltshrod for T3 and that is great.
Håkan
Alutek.eu are manufacturing the best well made bottommetals for T3 that I have seen, both for orignal mags and for AICS mags.
Just got their boltshrod for T3 and that is great.
Håkan
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
Also dosent the CDI bottom in .223 use the smaller poly magazines? I thought they were about $30-40 each instead of the $80 for metal.
Also dosent the CDI bottom in .223 use the smaller poly magazines? I thought they were about $30-40 each instead of the $80 for metal.
Re: How to make DBM for Tikka T3 Lite??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norcal Phoenix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also dosent the CDI bottom in .223 use the smaller poly magazines? I thought they were about $30-40 each instead of the $80 for metal. </div></div>
That would be correct. They hold 10 rounds and feed anything I have tried thru them.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norcal Phoenix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also dosent the CDI bottom in .223 use the smaller poly magazines? I thought they were about $30-40 each instead of the $80 for metal. </div></div>
That would be correct. They hold 10 rounds and feed anything I have tried thru them.
