Re: How to paint a scope...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what does he do to prep the surface? </div></div>
Most of the guys just give it a good wipe down with acetone or lacquer thinner. The Type III anodizing is virtually impossible to remove, and it provides a slightly porous surface for the paint to stick to.
John III
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what does he do to prep the surface? </div></div>
Most of the guys just give it a good wipe down with acetone or lacquer thinner. The Type III anodizing is virtually impossible to remove, and it provides a slightly porous surface for the paint to stick to.
John III
Re: How to paint a scope...
Is it reasonable to paint a scope without having it broken down like this?
Is it reasonable to paint a scope without having it broken down like this?
Re: How to paint a scope...
Didn't know you can break a USO down this far... Wow...
I have painted pistols and ARs with Duracoat, cleaned but without disassembling it and it turned out fine for my use. Some of the seams were not coated but can't be seen anyway, I would imagine you can tape off the parts you don't want coated and proceed to coat either with Duracoat or Ceracoat air-cured. Duracoat sticks to anodizing very well without blasting.
Didn't know you can break a USO down this far... Wow...
I have painted pistols and ARs with Duracoat, cleaned but without disassembling it and it turned out fine for my use. Some of the seams were not coated but can't be seen anyway, I would imagine you can tape off the parts you don't want coated and proceed to coat either with Duracoat or Ceracoat air-cured. Duracoat sticks to anodizing very well without blasting.
Re: How to paint a scope...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it reasonable to paint a scope without having it broken down like this? </div></div>
No, I just ordered it coated, and it's easier to do it this way for them. Plus, this way they don't have to mask off the markings, they can be etched in on top of the color.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it reasonable to paint a scope without having it broken down like this? </div></div>
No, I just ordered it coated, and it's easier to do it this way for them. Plus, this way they don't have to mask off the markings, they can be etched in on top of the color.
Re: How to paint a scope...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Plus, this way they don't have to mask off the markings, they can be etched in on top of the color. </div></div>
How is the etching done exactly? If you know and wouldn't mind sharing; sounds like a neat process...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Plus, this way they don't have to mask off the markings, they can be etched in on top of the color. </div></div>
How is the etching done exactly? If you know and wouldn't mind sharing; sounds like a neat process...
Re: How to paint a scope...
I think USO does laser etching, but I'm not sure. They might do a chemical etch...
Here's the parts in FDE
I think USO does laser etching, but I'm not sure. They might do a chemical etch...
Here's the parts in FDE
Re: How to paint a scope...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aubie515</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KG Gunkote makes the 1200 series air cured finish. That's what I use on my plastic and scopes.
I'm not a fan of Duracoat. It's definately not a durable finish. </div></div>
Based on what?
The below rifle, scope and all, was coated almost four years ago and is my go to coyote rifle. Plenty durable as long as you know what you are doing.
Coatings that require a catalyst to work, like Duracoat or Cerakote H are more prone to operator error and is the leading cause of coating failure, that and prep.
I will use Cerakote on scopes whenever I can but Duracoat is just fine if you know how to apply it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it reasonable to paint a scope without having it broken down like this? </div></div>
Yes it's done all the time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aubie515</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KG Gunkote makes the 1200 series air cured finish. That's what I use on my plastic and scopes.
I'm not a fan of Duracoat. It's definately not a durable finish. </div></div>
Based on what?
The below rifle, scope and all, was coated almost four years ago and is my go to coyote rifle. Plenty durable as long as you know what you are doing.
Coatings that require a catalyst to work, like Duracoat or Cerakote H are more prone to operator error and is the leading cause of coating failure, that and prep.
I will use Cerakote on scopes whenever I can but Duracoat is just fine if you know how to apply it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it reasonable to paint a scope without having it broken down like this? </div></div>
Yes it's done all the time.
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Duracoat has worked just fine for me if I had bare parts blasted and prepared as instructed. Duracoating on anodized parts without prior blasting also worked. Only wear I see are on sharp edges that are typically coated thinner but I only have myself to blame.
Duracoat has worked just fine for me if I had bare parts blasted and prepared as instructed. Duracoating on anodized parts without prior blasting also worked. Only wear I see are on sharp edges that are typically coated thinner but I only have myself to blame.
Re: How to paint a scope...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aubie515</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KG Gunkote makes the 1200 series air cured finish. That's what I use on my plastic and scopes.
I'm not a fan of Duracoat. It's definately not a durable finish. </div></div>
I am not saying that DC is the most durable finish, because I have not tried them all. But I will say that Duracoat has proven very durable in my experience. The ones I have sprayed myself and now the A5 that Dimensions did for me are holding up very well. I havent had a single speck come off of any of mine. I am not rough on my gear but it definitely gets used.
Duracoat rocks as far as I am concerned.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aubie515</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KG Gunkote makes the 1200 series air cured finish. That's what I use on my plastic and scopes.
I'm not a fan of Duracoat. It's definately not a durable finish. </div></div>
I am not saying that DC is the most durable finish, because I have not tried them all. But I will say that Duracoat has proven very durable in my experience. The ones I have sprayed myself and now the A5 that Dimensions did for me are holding up very well. I havent had a single speck come off of any of mine. I am not rough on my gear but it definitely gets used.
Duracoat rocks as far as I am concerned.
Re: How to paint a scope...
Duracoat can be a good finish. A lot of the reliability is in the prep. I generally use cerakote air cure for scopes and other parts i dont want to cook. Ive done a couple of scopes of mine in duracoat (i use polane) with better long term results than the ones of mine with cerakote. The problem with polane/duracoat is film thickness. Basically if you build the polane up with several coats, it takes longer to wear through it. They will ALL eventually wear at the sharp edges.
If you get a USO and have it coated with oven cure cerakote, you will see a <span style="text-decoration: underline">great</span> deal more wear resistance than air cure coatings.
Oven cure cerakote is my personal favorite coating.
Duracoat can be a good finish. A lot of the reliability is in the prep. I generally use cerakote air cure for scopes and other parts i dont want to cook. Ive done a couple of scopes of mine in duracoat (i use polane) with better long term results than the ones of mine with cerakote. The problem with polane/duracoat is film thickness. Basically if you build the polane up with several coats, it takes longer to wear through it. They will ALL eventually wear at the sharp edges.
If you get a USO and have it coated with oven cure cerakote, you will see a <span style="text-decoration: underline">great</span> deal more wear resistance than air cure coatings.
Oven cure cerakote is my personal favorite coating.
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Can the air cure cerakote colors be mixed like duracoat to get custom colors? I am now starting to lean towards the air-cure cerakote for stocks but find the colors limiting. I read another thread indicating you could not mix the air cure cerakote but the poster could not answer why.
Can the air cure cerakote colors be mixed like duracoat to get custom colors? I am now starting to lean towards the air-cure cerakote for stocks but find the colors limiting. I read another thread indicating you could not mix the air cure cerakote but the poster could not answer why.
Re: How to paint a scope...
I mix air cure like its goin out of style. I lean to duracoat for stocks. The air cure is a little brittle for stocks, just from my experience. It tends to chip where duracoat absorbs impact. I have used flexative with air cure with success but it glosses up a little.
The exception being- if you can BLAST your stock, cerakote is great.
I mix air cure like its goin out of style. I lean to duracoat for stocks. The air cure is a little brittle for stocks, just from my experience. It tends to chip where duracoat absorbs impact. I have used flexative with air cure with success but it glosses up a little.
The exception being- if you can BLAST your stock, cerakote is great.
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With regards to cerakote oven cure.
Can different colours of oven cure cerakote be mixed for a custom blend?
Can you paint one colour and before that colour is cured apply another overtop(i.e. to get camo effect)the previous coat?
Can the Butler Creek scope caps take 200F of the oven cure?
How much sanding or buffing is needed to prep a stock be it plastic or wood? i.e. 400 grit
thx
With regards to cerakote oven cure.
Can different colours of oven cure cerakote be mixed for a custom blend?
Can you paint one colour and before that colour is cured apply another overtop(i.e. to get camo effect)the previous coat?
Can the Butler Creek scope caps take 200F of the oven cure?
How much sanding or buffing is needed to prep a stock be it plastic or wood? i.e. 400 grit
thx
Re: How to paint a scope...
The Duracoat is tough as nails when applied and prepped correctly. It's all about the surface prep and application.
The Duracoat is tough as nails when applied and prepped correctly. It's all about the surface prep and application.
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