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Gunsmithing HS Precision stock bedding & other stuff

lte82

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    I pulled apart my 338 lapua today (savage 110 fcp) and I noticed that the action has wear marks in four spots. After inspecting the aluminum block, where the action rides, it isnt round at all, but more or less flat along the bottom and 45 degree angled sides where the action contacts. There is very little contact between the stock and the action...

    1. Is that how its supposed to be?
    2. Would bedding it help stay put better?

    I can sometimes put great groups together then all of a sudden it opens way up with a "flier" or two. I suspect the action is moving in the rifle but cant confirm... By looking at it now I dont see how it doesnt slide around any.
     
    I'm going to make a bold statement.


    I've made bedding an alloy bedding block stock like the H/S and B/C obsolete. Over 70 are in circulation as of this moment. Ranging from real world Defensive Marksman rifles to varmint/hunting rigs for the masses. The response has been 100%. This is a process new to the chassis/bedding block world. We pioneered it and are the only one's doing it.

    I'm not suggesting that there's anything wrong with your stock as is. I'm not saying that bedding can't/won't fix it. What I am saying is we offer an alternative that will never chip, never flake off, and just looks frickin cool.

    Not to mention WORKS.


    Be glad to help. We'd have your stock about a week.

    Chad


    3D surface machined alloy bedding block:

     
    I have diagnosed and fixed many HS stocks for improper bedding (not saying the bedding block was out, the actions could have been not true) but yes they are just a vee block with a rounded profile. However the contact patch is still the same a thin line on both sides of the action, which is usually ok. I have found the problem arrives in the tang, they are hit or miss with contact. If you bed or modify the factory block you will void your warranty for the stock as per HS Precision customer support. Now I am not saying to not repair it as when they don't fit well its a hump of crap... I have read the thread Chad did a while back about his modifications and personally think that is a much better repair than bedding of any kind. As Chad stated it will be very durable and provide a much longer service life.
     
    There's two threads that I've written covering this subject.

    The most recent was about an AICS chassis stock called "Surfin the Day away". It was a couple months ago I think.

    The first was last fall. I'll warn you that it generated a bit of controversy. Bringing an unloaded gun to a gun fight is never a good idea. -meaning I've done the homework and have enough experience on the subject now to be convinced that its viable and real.

    Give us a call if you'd like to discuss it further. Pricing is very reasonable and the turnaround is 2nd to none. Were considering buying another machine just for this process so that we can improve on delivery that much more.

    Thanks.

    C.
     
    Thanks Chad. I spoke with John this morning and I'll be sending it in tomorrow. Feel free to post before and after pictures!
     
    Chad
    What is the cost to do this to a Rem 700 LA /H-S stock(H-S Detachable mag)Factory Sendero stock . Do you need the entire weapon or just the stock?(quote:We would have your stock about a week)
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    I can't find the original thread from last year. I remember it and remeber some great pics of the work. Can you re-hang the pics?

    There's two threads that I've written covering this subject.

    The most recent was about an AICS chassis stock called "Surfin the Day away". It was a couple months ago I think.

    The first was last fall. I'll warn you that it generated a bit of controversy. Bringing an unloaded gun to a gun fight is never a good idea. -meaning I've done the homework and have enough experience on the subject now to be convinced that its viable and real.

    Give us a call if you'd like to discuss it further. Pricing is very reasonable and the turnaround is 2nd to none. Were considering buying another machine just for this process so that we can improve on delivery that much more.

    Thanks.

    C.
     
    Pricing for surface machining the H/S and B/C stocks that have the "cast in" bedding block is $200.00. We'll need it about a week.

    We've also done the Hogue "rubbermaid" stocks with the bedding block. Price is the same for those.

    The AICS and AI AX type chassis stocks can also be done. These cost more because there is significantly more work. We have to chew on the bolt handle inlet, the recoil lug, and a number of other features. The price for these is $350.00 Both Left and Right handed models are available for all the stocks we can do.

    I've done one Manner's Mini Chassis. We can make it work, however it does not lend itself well to this upgrade. The issue at hand is I have to drop the action almost .100" to get the bottom of the surfacing flush with the channel in the bedding block. It will demand that the barrel channel be lowered as well. Like I said, I've done only one and it went well, but it will require some additional work. Price for these is $300.00


    I don't have a crystal ball on any of these stocks. The "cast in" bedding blocks used by H/S and B/C can vary a smidge in height. In some instances the barrel channels have to be reworked in order to regain/restore the required amount of clearance. Because of this I MUST have the barreled action in hand. I don't write "generic" programs for this. Each barrel channel is fitted using the same surfacing techniques. What I do is write the code specific to each barrel contour. Gunsmiths all have varying ideas on how much cylinder needs to be hanging off the front of the receiver. It's not a bad thing, but it makes it unrealistic to write a single program for a Remington Varmint. (as an example)

    Machining a barrel channel is a $75.00 add on for this service. Running a channel only is $100.00 because I still have to go through the same setup. Those who don't wish to have this done can decline it. Just know you'll be wearing out your elbows with 100 grit and wooden dowels as you fit the channel at home. Like I said, not every stock needs it. It's just a variance in manufacturing that sometimes has to be dealt with.

    Our turnaround on this service is pretty good. Usually its back in your hands within 2 weeks. We are heavily laiden with work due to our ongoing Group Buys (it's gone viral!) but we've been able to squeak these jobs in here/there as they show up.

    Be happy to help.

    Chad
     
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    Probably. Just like a bedding job would. Just like adding a non HS DBM would because it makes the bedding block paper thin through the mag well section on the sides, etc.

    You can void the warranty by painting the stock. Use the wrong solvents to clean/prep it and it can make the damn things delaminate. So can leaving them in your car on a hot day as many have found.
     
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    where are the engineers in teh house?

    certainly it would be easy for one to figure out which would take more force to start moving, a roundish receiver pulled into a 90* included angle vee block with two opposing points of contact at the front ring and two at the rear or a roundish receiver pulled into a round channel of the same size (or slightly smaller, i would assume).

    i have a pretty good hunch we are going to find the wedge effect of the vee greatly increases the axial force required to overcome the friction than a round inlet. but i'm no engineer.

    edit: sort of on topic, does anyone know the coefficient of friction between common bedding compounds and steel?
     
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