Ralph Nader was a whacko wing nut but he did have a diff take on the society. just sayin'. one could make the case that he got Bush in because anyone voting for him would have been a lt lib and from the Gore bunch. doubt any rep Bush voter would have gone with Nader. so,3rd party candidates do have a story behind them and affect outcomes i think.
I’m not going to say I told you so, but…Elon musk
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Remember that one time the billionaires gave a fuck about the common folk?
I'll wait.
I'll wait.
There is a TIME magazine article from the latter part of the 2020 campaign, maybe August or September, where the author talks about Zuck and others openly planning to bias the 2020 election. The article is written from a bragging tone, as in "yeah we are doing this and there isn't anything you can do to stop it."
Nader has lived his life in a way that tends to appeal to lefties, progressives, marxists etc. But even if you don't agree with his politics, his work has tended to be unbiased and honest. I remember he got pilloried for "Unsafe at Any Speed," his work on the GM Corvair's safety issues, and for his review of early 70s Ford Pintos and their gas tanks. He was pointing out some of the flaws of large-scale production when it starts to bend toward profit first, utility second.
Sort of like SIG USA lately, ya know?
Perot was a patriot - he was and Perot was right..... I believe it was more than 850,000, because the gov hides truth
The Giant Sucking sound of jobs leaving USA due to NAFTA - Perot
"Ross Perot's prediction that Americans would hear a "giant sucking sound" as production operations and factories moved from the United States to Mexico due to NAFTA was prescient. The Economic Policy Institute concluded that the U.S. lost about 850,000 jobs from 1993 to 2013 as a result of NAFTA. "
Somebody has been paying attention...
Perot highlighted the problems we NOW are encountering, due to offshoring of industry. For this he was used as a pawn/splitter and ultimately shamed (as a candidate for success).
First elections I was legal to vote: 1980. Candidates since then who have campaigned on a true domestic strength agenda, suggesting we fix domestic problems before anything else: Two. Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot.
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wouldn't really want Nader or Perot for CIC/pres but they had worthwhile things to say. our auto industry went POS no later than about '80,really sooner. Toyota had QC and customer satisfaction on the front burner for years, they were taught that early on by an American biz man. don't remember his name. it worked long time. one reason they stole the biz,among several. seems all their workers were down with that. in about the 21st they went back to the Detroit way and took a shit just like US makers. now everything is loaded with digital crap that can hardly be fixed at huge $s and is made to break. a lot of the shit is gov mandated for "safety" and the rest because US consumers want max convenience,babying and comfort. IMHO the only real auto improvement in the last 30years is gas mileage which does rise from injectors and comps,i know. prob could have been done with tech improvements of the "old" carb system. "striped down" models no longer exist. manual trannies are antiques almost.
Just wait out the next election. Any intervention will guarantee a dem win, and just like last time they undo all the good Trump did.
If another republican wins it will solidify most of what Trump has started and prob get another /replace a republican justice.
Which is prob the best thing Trump had done by restocking the court.
After that a dem will win guaranteed as there won’t be 3 republicans in a row. So let musk be the fly in the ointment then.
If another republican wins it will solidify most of what Trump has started and prob get another /replace a republican justice.
Which is prob the best thing Trump had done by restocking the court.
After that a dem will win guaranteed as there won’t be 3 republicans in a row. So let musk be the fly in the ointment then.
Yeah. Maybe he could drop 25 million to GOA and 2nd amendment foundation to back those credentials up. Let's see him fund the NFA lawsuits.
Some of you put too much faith in your fellow humans. Maybe I'm just too cynical, but trusting ANYBODY in government is fucking retarded.
I do call out trump, but since you’re one of those accounts that rarely ever posts then magically appears in political threads years after joining you wouldn’t know that
doesn't matter who we trust. just a crap shoot by those of us with no control or even influence on macro outcomes. those in power are gonna do what they do until they are stopped by whatever. just opinions. i think Musk is OK somewhat. i could be wrong and he could be the next Mao. having faith in something is fine. if its not a good outcome,will be fine if you are thoughtful and don't get fanatically committed and forget you might be wrong. we all have been wrong a bunch.
Auto industry bent to Greenies/EPA heavily after the problems that arose in the LA River basin from the super-development of the greater LA area. Californians complained about the problems they created themselves by moving to a big basin (topographically) that could withstand about maybe 1/10th the population it had back then (1970s), air pollution wise and water demands wise.
When the auto industry was held captive in Congress mostly by John Dingell of Michigan, who pushed the Greenie/EPA line before the interests of the manufacturers in his state, most of the top command of fedgov admin, and of domestic economic matters, stood against Detroit and with Dingell. The industry was forced to kowtow.
From 1991-1994 I was an air quality planner and in that era, obnoxious/oppressive EPA stances on any pollution reduction were mockingly called "products of Dingellgrams".
So the blame for domestic autos going to crap sits with California kooks, green lefties in Congress and EPA, and a series of Admins who sided with Greenies/EPA over Detroit.
As to Nader -- not POTUS, that would not play to his strengths and would not appeal to anyone but the eternal crusaders for destabilization, a/k/a lefties progressives donkeys and marxists. His best role is that of watchdog. And, he's got to be mid-80s by now so a bit old.
The comically named DOGE entity fantasyland helmed by the South African Trustafarian, if you actually made an entity like that as a formal part of fedgov, that is what Nader would be good at strategizing and implementing.
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Optimism is one of those things that can help a person get out of bed and into the day, but it should be used sparingly, only when needed and only when the situation shows it is warranted.
In this era, what signals are you seeing that would suggest being optimistic toward anything touched by the South African Trust Fund Kiddie?
Also -- out of the 535 members of the Congress, how many actually spend any time serving their actual constituency, vs whomever dumped the most money in their PAC or whomever has compromising information on the Congressman?
i'm not particularly optimistic, but neither am i a "panican" that thinks this will "tear the party apart" or something.
campaign finance is maybe one of the bigger problems. members of the house are required to raise campaign funds.
this can require endless hours in a call center, cold calling for donations, unless you take money from bigger donors.
it's pretty obvious that most of them take the easy money,
I would just suggest this -- instead of looking at "what is" and deciding to play along with how things are, what other ideas would you have? Give yourself the freedom to color outside the lines, just think as if you were tasked with solving the campaign finance problem.
Why is so much money needed? What is that money spent on? Does it actually cause the votes to sway this way or that? Or is it something more sinister, being used as a patsy?
Might not be the sorts of things you spend any time talking about with family/friends, but the sad fact is, everyone needs to start thinking this way. That's what our civic responsibilities include -- staying aware of the problems and thinking on how to solve them.
Expecting the process as it stands today to somehow fix itself, instinctively folks ought to know that won't work. If you have a son/daughter who is in a bad rut behaviorally, are you going to sit back and hope he or she fixes it on their own, or are you going to want to help?
Why is so much money needed? What is that money spent on? Does it actually cause the votes to sway this way or that? Or is it something more sinister, being used as a patsy?
Might not be the sorts of things you spend any time talking about with family/friends, but the sad fact is, everyone needs to start thinking this way. That's what our civic responsibilities include -- staying aware of the problems and thinking on how to solve them.
Expecting the process as it stands today to somehow fix itself, instinctively folks ought to know that won't work. If you have a son/daughter who is in a bad rut behaviorally, are you going to sit back and hope he or she fixes it on their own, or are you going to want to help?
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