I’m not going to say I told you so, but…Elon musk

You guys act like team red is actually fighting against team blue. All they do is yell and jazz hands at each other then agree to all of the worst compromises in every situation

Ross Perot, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, and a very few others are the ones who have been warning everyone about how this fucking train wreck will slowly derail out of control and all they ever get is shit on. You fucking retards deserve exactly what you’re getting
Ralph Nader was a whacko wing nut but he did have a diff take on the society. just sayin'. one could make the case that he got Bush in because anyone voting for him would have been a lt lib and from the Gore bunch. doubt any rep Bush voter would have gone with Nader. so,3rd party candidates do have a story behind them and affect outcomes i think.
 
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Zuckenfuck helped steal the 2020 election with $450M of well placed funds leading up to the election. He was also full in the deep state corruption suppressing any free speech of evidence of the fraud.
Elon buying Twitter released tons of this evidence.
Doge found so much fucking fraud in our government it's unbelievable.
He's directly responsible for SpaceX leading the world now is space launches saving America billions. EDS, it's a thing apparently.
There is a TIME magazine article from the latter part of the 2020 campaign, maybe August or September, where the author talks about Zuck and others openly planning to bias the 2020 election. The article is written from a bragging tone, as in "yeah we are doing this and there isn't anything you can do to stop it."
 
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Ralph Nader was a whacko wing nut but he did have a diff take on the society. just sayin'. one could make the case that he got Bush in because anyone voting for him would have been a lt lib and from the Gore bunch. doubt any rep Bush voter would have gone with Nader. so,3rd party candidates do have a story behind them and affect outcomes i think.
Nader has lived his life in a way that tends to appeal to lefties, progressives, marxists etc. But even if you don't agree with his politics, his work has tended to be unbiased and honest. I remember he got pilloried for "Unsafe at Any Speed," his work on the GM Corvair's safety issues, and for his review of early 70s Ford Pintos and their gas tanks. He was pointing out some of the flaws of large-scale production when it starts to bend toward profit first, utility second.

Sort of like SIG USA lately, ya know?
 
Same. I still believe Perot was a patriot. Musk is a lot of things and none good.
Perot was a patriot - he was and Perot was right..... I believe it was more than 850,000, because the gov hides truth
The Giant Sucking sound of jobs leaving USA due to NAFTA - Perot
"Ross Perot's prediction that Americans would hear a "giant sucking sound" as production operations and factories moved from the United States to Mexico due to NAFTA was prescient. The Economic Policy Institute concluded that the U.S. lost about 850,000 jobs from 1993 to 2013 as a result of NAFTA. "
 
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You all realize that none of this is organic. Everything is as scripted as the WWF. This douche did not become a billionaire by inventing something. Any more than that Facebook guy.

He’s just another kayfabe actor who is doing his job and playing his role. He is no different that Zelenskyy, Jinping, potato or Trump.

Somebody has been paying attention...
 
Perot highlighted the problems we NOW are encountering, due to offshoring of industry. For this he was used as a pawn/splitter and ultimately shamed (as a candidate for success).

First elections I was legal to vote: 1980. Candidates since then who have campaigned on a true domestic strength agenda, suggesting we fix domestic problems before anything else: Two. Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot.
 
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Nader has lived his life in a way that tends to appeal to lefties, progressives, marxists etc. But even if you don't agree with his politics, his work has tended to be unbiased and honest. I remember he got pilloried for "Unsafe at Any Speed," his work on the GM Corvair's safety issues, and for his review of early 70s Ford Pintos and their gas tanks. He was pointing out some of the flaws of large-scale production when it starts to bend toward profit first, utility second.

Sort of like SIG USA lately, ya know?
wouldn't really want Nader or Perot for CIC/pres but they had worthwhile things to say. our auto industry went POS no later than about '80,really sooner. Toyota had QC and customer satisfaction on the front burner for years, they were taught that early on by an American biz man. don't remember his name. it worked long time. one reason they stole the biz,among several. seems all their workers were down with that. in about the 21st they went back to the Detroit way and took a shit just like US makers. now everything is loaded with digital crap that can hardly be fixed at huge $s and is made to break. a lot of the shit is gov mandated for "safety" and the rest because US consumers want max convenience,babying and comfort. IMHO the only real auto improvement in the last 30years is gas mileage which does rise from injectors and comps,i know. prob could have been done with tech improvements of the "old" carb system. "striped down" models no longer exist. manual trannies are antiques almost.
 
Just wait out the next election. Any intervention will guarantee a dem win, and just like last time they undo all the good Trump did.

If another republican wins it will solidify most of what Trump has started and prob get another /replace a republican justice.

Which is prob the best thing Trump had done by restocking the court.

After that a dem will win guaranteed as there won’t be 3 republicans in a row. So let musk be the fly in the ointment then.