but i hope i live thru this to see the retaliation against China. There's going to be some pissed MF's in other nations that don't give a shit about PC.
Unfortunately, though I agree with the OP's sentiment, I agree that people will just end up going..."oh well, I still want cheap stuff and electronics."Wont happen. China controls too much market share and how do you attack 1.7 billion people. Just like with every crisis we have here, the next one will come along and everybody will forget and move on,
And just how truthful Chicom was before it went completely global. How much were they hiding?Depends on a unified global investigation into just what the fuck happened. Was it simply because some motherfucker ate a bat, or was it a bioweapon, intentionally or unintentionally released...
And just how truthful Chicom was before it went completely global. How much were they hiding?
I know the MSM or some doctors, stated that this all started with a china man/woman, eating things that really shouldn't be eaten and blow'n snot/coughing on someone kneeling at the dinner table, BUT deep down I'm think'n the old bio-lab was working on something evil and someone said..Oh SHIT! who left the window open?? Mac?Depends on a unified global investigation into just what the fuck happened. Was it simply because some motherfucker ate a bat, or was it a bioweapon, intentionally or unintentionally released...
I'd happily pay 1000 for a new tv that had been 500 if it were made here and sourced from parts made here. Thrilled to do so even if it's still a disposable POS that will last 30 days longer than the warranty.Here is an idea, why don't we go back to making all the things now made in the China back in the US
I know the US made goods most likely can't be as low price as chinese goods, but it might be worth a try, at least shake them up a little.
I have never understood how America and Americans can stand for freedom and human rights, but yet do business with people that have ZERO idea of what human rights and freedom is. Not only China, but India and others as well.
Ain't that most every country on this rock? Including ours, being the worst,... towards us? I've often wondered why people like to be ruled by tyrants whose first love is to fuck over,... their own country men, for just money? Seems strange to me,...that most like it( sheep) an others won't stop it, because of a long standing single belief. Very odd,...I harbor no particular ill will against the Chinese population. Their leadership, on the other hand...
In world war 2 they asked the same question about japan. So, the problem was figured out. Twice. Now we’re best friends.Wont happen. China controls too much market share and how do you attack 1.7 billion people. Just like with every crisis we have here, the next one will come along and everybody will forget and move on,
All three (A's R's & C's) already have. Then shortly there after A's & R's were running operations side by side, against I's. Weeks later A's, R's & C's were trying to fuck over other close by country's. Always follow the money,..."The two biggest kids on the block; sooner or later, they're gonna fight."
“I know the US made goods most likely can't be as low price as chinese goods, but it might be worth a try, at least shake them up a little.”
Corporate and personal income tax levels over the last 50 years is where the answers lie. It’s also why the jobs and manufacturing went away.
Can you blame them.
It’s also why you never seem to get ahead. Just enough to get by, paycheck to paycheck. It’s NOT because Americans want to be paid to much, won’t do that work, or aren’t smart enough and should have went to college.
Screw them just enough to take most but just enough for them to survive.
Just enough shy of the point so they don’t physically haul you out of town on a rail.
Taxes always passed down to the cost of goods. Consumers ultimately pay. And it compounds throughout the economy.
Imagine your financial situation if the price of EVERYTHING you purchase dropped by 30% probably more.
Then apply that to the last 50 years.
Preaching to the choir, I know.
Economic isolation, we lived before without china we can do so again.Wont happen. China controls too much market share and how do you attack 1.7 billion people. Just like with every crisis we have here, the next one will come along and everybody will forget and move on,
I bet we could get closer if it weren’t for sky high taxes taxes, over regulation, and sky rocketed insurance prices.No we cant make US goods as cheaply as Chinese goods because we value life, we value our environment and we are not communist motherfuckers.
If the cost of each of those things was added to the Chinese good you would see that are products can be made at the same price as theirs.
Than when you add in transportation costs you will see our products are cheaper than theirs if made and used domestically.
We have made a Faustian pact for cheap shit and it is costing us everything.
I bet we could get closer if it weren’t for sky high taxes taxes, over regulation, and sky rocketed insurance prices.
I work for a small oilfield service company. We pay $100,000 per year for insurance. We don’t manufacture but work downhole. Liability insurance is a bitch. Add in property tax, employment taxes, etc.
China is water poor. It's one of the key motivators behind their drive to reduce population growth, and build massive dams to impound more fresh water.
There lies the crux.These companies have trained us to expect $10 shoes and $100 50" televisions.
There lies the crux.
People need those things cheaply when pinned down under half of there income tied up in taxes otherwise they couldn’t afford anything and there would be mutiny. Can’t keep control to enrich the few like that.
High tax at home and cheap crap from abroad to appease the masses is a symbiotic relationship. Gives the foreign powers more wealth and it’s kicked back to keep that wheel in motion.
Also makes it easier for special interests or representatives to launder it back into thier pockets when it’s sent all over to who knows where and siphoned back so the average people can’t track it and know the true score.
It’s a lot easier than say if it was all made in country and the everyday citizens watching and counting all of it daily.
Made in America just makes it harder to steal and be corrupt.
That premise right there is a very interesting one. The book Elizabeth Warren wrote actually covered this. Too bad she felt the need to lie and sell out, she used to be an interesting person at least.Tie that In with creating two income earners in the family.
Sure the family unit loses a stable at home caregiver but the govt gains twice the revenue.
All in the guise of "progress".
Oh, I agree completely. I was simply replying in the hypothetical to Maggot's question about the 'how'. As I elaborated, the real opponent is, and always has been Russia.We're not militarily going to attack China as we do not need to. However, I'm definitely (and have been for years) on the Fuck China team.
times a changing, Folks that clamor for cheap don't understand so here's an explanation.As long as the American consumer puts low prices above all else...China will be just fine.