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I got called Sir again, RedAss.

May I?

Happy to get to know more about you and your Dick measuring.

I was indeed an electrician...; for the first half of my Vietnam tour.

The second half of my Vietnam Tour of Duty I was busy doing this.

I just don't make such a big deal bragging about it.

Soplo yourself, maricon...

You are Ignored...

Youre two of my favorite members here and bot VN vets, Damnit get over yourselves, youre better than this.
 
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I believe we need a new thread labeled what really grinds my gears. Like action figure therapy, but Peter Griffin style
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Well shoot.

I know FM and while I dont agree on this, I will give him a pass and not bust his nuts too much.

Im sure most of us have some thing similar.

Plus he is aged and its hot, which jacks up mirage pretty quick at his home range. So shootin is less.
Plus his nuts are prolly uncomfortable In the heat too.

And Oprah still aint puttin out or bought FM his helicopter.

Let an old timer bitch a little.
I hope for that allowance in another 30+ yrs when I am his age.
 
I apologize for not being clear enough in my OP. Not one of my best threads.

I had a young shooter who had already fired 40 rounds not hitting the paper at 100M and moved him in to on bull at 25 yds. in less than 4 rounds. Twist them adjustments a long ways, then back out at 100 and I can hit the paper???

He had called me "Sir"a time ot 2 and I let him know each and every time that was not good with me. My name is Mike, use that or Peckerwood, Asshole,or whatever, just don't call me Sir. What do you not understand about this?

He fired his last string of 5 and brought the target back, target that I had provided, and said,"Sir, what do you think of this, how much do I need to move now?"

I lost it right there. Don't call me "Sir" I have told you enough times yet you persist. I left the range.

Greg, Good call, glass houses do not resist rocks. and I can get into things if You really want to. I saved it all. FM
 
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I apologize for not being clear enough in my OP. Not one of my best threads.

I had a young shooter who had already fired 40 rounds not hitting the paper at 100M and moved him in to on bull at 25 yds. in less than 4 rounds. Twist them adjustments a long ways, then back out at 100 and I can hit the paper???

He had called me "Sir"a time ot 2 and I let him know each and every time that was not good with me. My name is Mike, use that or Peckerwood, Asshole,or whatever, just don't call me Sir. What do you not understand about this?

He fired his last string of 5 and brought the target back, target that I had provided, and said,"Sir, what do you think of this, how much do I need to move now?"

I lost it right there. Don't call me "Sir" I have told you enough times yet you persist. I left the range.

Greg, Good call, glass houses do not resist rocks.
Now I find this to me more egregious than your original story. You helped a young man, who obviously needed it, with some pointers about proper rifle zero process. Then, when he tries to show you some respect and courtesy you treat him like shit.
Great ambassador for the shooting sports and 2A!
 
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Shoor 4fun, I did not treat him bad. I asked him to not call me Sir, 3 times. He did not understand it, but I did politely ask him to not call me "Sir" 3 fucking times and gave him my name to call me each and every time.

What part of this do you not understand? I asked and asked and asked 3 fucking times.

As a young child I was taught to call people by the names they ran with.

When the plumber was at our house I knew to call him Nate, not Mr. Einer----, as that would piss him off and the bill would go up.

I want only what Nate insisted upon and that was a lot of respect and I didn't have to be told twice.
 
I have not read this whole thread, but I'm going to go back and read it. I bet it's a good one. But I just wanted to add this:
When my son was in first grade, he joined Cub Scouts. His very first pack meeting, he's sitting up front and I'm sitting against the wall in the back. The Pack Leader was an obvious northerner. Cain't miss the accent. During his meeting, he asked my son a question. My son answered his question "Yes sir." The pack leader looked at my son and said, you don't have to call me sir.
What?! I jumped up and said "Hold it!! I don't know where your from, but you are now in the South. Down here we say yes sir, no sir, yes ma'am and no ma'am. You better expect it, and you better get used to it." He looked at me stunned and said "OK". He never said a word about it again.
I've never lived up North, but in the South, it's a sign of respect. I still say yes ma'am no ma'am. I say it to the 20 year old girl at the checkout at the grocery store. It's just the way I was raised. It's the way my kids were raised.
 
It is not a sign of respect to me when you have been told 3 times kindly to not call me Sir, I find it disrespectful after you have been told 3 times and been told my name 3 times.

3 strikes and your OUT, would have liked to help him more but he obviously can't listen and learn, knowing he is pushing your buttons.

Is that someone you would like to help out? He hasn't listened the last 3 times you asked him nicely not to do something.
Is he likely to learn firearms safety if you have to tell him 3 times? NO Once should be enough.
 
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It is not a sign of respect to me when you have been told 3 times kindly to not call me Sir, I find it disrespectful after you have been told 3 times and been told my name 3 times.

3 strikes and your OUT, would have liked to help him more but he obviously can't listen and learn, knowing he is pushing your buttons.

Is that someone you would like to help out? He hasn't listened the last 3 times you asked him nicely not to do something.
Is he likely to learn firearms safety if you have to tell him 3 times? NO Once should be enough.

I understand what youre saying but in some of us its so deeply ingrained its like blinking. Its a habit.

Why didnt you go on the offensive and start calling his 'Dickwad' everytime he said sir?
 
It is not a sign of respect to me when you have been told 3 times kindly to not call me Sir, I find it disrespectful after you have been told 3 times and been told my name 3 times.

3 strikes and your OUT, would have liked to help him more but he obviously can't listen and learn, knowing he is pushing your buttons.

Is that someone you would like to help out? He hasn't listened the last 3 times you asked him nicely not to do something.
Is he likely to learn firearms safety if you have to tell him 3 times? NO Once should be enough.
Maybe the real question here is that either you don't feel like you deserve another human being's respect or there are no others out in the world that deserve your respect.
We are watching the God-awful antics of Antifa unfold today because a whole generation of young people weren't taught to say sir and ma'am.
Hell, maybe you should just go join up with them!
 
I have not read this whole thread, but I'm going to go back and read it. I bet it's a good one. But I just wanted to add this:
When my son was in first grade, he joined Cub Scouts. His very first pack meeting, he's sitting up front and I'm sitting against the wall in the back. The Pack Leader was an obvious northerner. Cain't miss the accent. During his meeting, he asked my son a question. My son answered his question "Yes sir." The pack leader looked at my son and said, you don't have to call me sir.
What?! I jumped up and said "Hold it!! I don't know where your from, but you are now in the South. Down here we say yes sir, no sir, yes ma'am and no ma'am. You better expect it, and you better get used to it." He looked at me stunned and said "OK". He never said a word about it again.
I've never lived up North, but in the South, it's a sign of respect. I still say yes ma'am no ma'am. I say it to the 20 year old girl at the checkout at the grocery store. It's just the way I was raised. It's the way my kids were raised.
True in the North, too.

But I will say, that when Instructed to call someone Mr. X or by first name. We adapted.

It was very weird when I was 15 or so and called my first adult by his first name. I remember it, too. Al. He was an army captain. Helicopter pilot. In front of folks he said “Al. Call me Al.”

It was very uncomfortable at first.

Sirhr

Becoming an adult was a journey, wasn’t it?
 
I was raised up on yessir and no sir ! If I didn’t say it my dad would knock me across the room! I have talked to the foul one several times over the years and he’s a damn good guy! Everyone has their annoyances and this happens to be one of Mikes! So be it. He !!asked the guy not to say it. The guy should have showed him respect for that as I would have. With me knowing mike a little bit and his histotry. He’s earned a respect that should be given to him as well! I do know Mike respects other people as well! He’s one of the good guys! Let it slide!
 
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I get it. ET1(SW) Retired, working with Electronic Technicians young enough to my kids if I had any. I always tell them "I'm Sam." When I get underway I generally sleep in a berthing and eat on the mess decks.

When I started On Board Tech Assists I was told that I'd be called "Sir" for every time I called a Civilian Tech, Contractor, or Yard Bird "Sir." I figure I have 15 years until I can go to the range full time (2025, I'll be 67) and I'll probably be called "Sir" by some young Sailor on the way off the ship.
 
It is not a sign of respect to me when you have been told 3 times kindly to not call me Sir, I find it disrespectful after you have been told 3 times and been told my name 3 times.

3 strikes and your OUT, would have liked to help him more but he obviously can't listen and learn, knowing he is pushing your buttons.

Is that someone you would like to help out? He hasn't listened the last 3 times you asked him nicely not to do something.
Is he likely to learn firearms safety if you have to tell him 3 times? NO Once should be enough.

Oh I agree 100%. I wasn't meaning anything else by my story. Your story brought up the memory of my story, and I just thought I'd share.
But yes, if I don't know you, you may get a yes sir/no sir, depends on if my first impression of you is good or not. If I do know you, it's first name.

I was raised up on yessir and no sir ! If I didn’t say it my dad would knock me across the room! I have talked to the foul one several times over the years and he’s a damn good guy! Everyone has their annoyances and this happens to be one of Mikes! So be it. He !!asked the guy not to say it. The guy should have showed him respect for that as I would have. With me knowing mike a little bit and his histotry. He’s earned a respect that should be given to him as well! I do know Mike respects other people as well! He’s one of the good guys! Let it slide!

Yep, I've talked to FM a couple times on the phone myself, and yes, he is a great guy.
 
Being an EM Grunt 69/70 I grew to hate ANYONE that wanted to be called SIR and anyone that insisted on it unless they deserved it, whereupon the word came out of my mouth freely as I respected them and felt they should be called that.

I had to deal with ROTC, OCS, and any one of a number of other programs that made people "Officers." and found that in my MOS there were few that even understood what I was talking about, but they were "Sirs"

Today I was talking to a man working on our range and he called me Sir, I quickly told him my name is Mike, Foul Mike, Asshole or whatever you want to call me but "Please don't call me Sir again."

I did not go into the tirade of "I work for a living" or "My parents were married when I was born"or "I don't suck cocks and don't kneel"

I was very respectful and flat out asked the man to NEVER refer to me as "Sir" again as I find it very offensive and explained it to him. He did not do it again and we got along well.

In my time in the Army I came upon a lot of them, some good and a lot not so good but they had the bars and rank.

I dealt with some Ring Knockers, both good and bad, and lots of puffed up others from the rank and file of wherever they got their education and the title "Sir."

My best interactions were with Mustangs other than an outstanding NG Officer, wheat farmer from Kansas, who had been activated and the occasional Officer who just had his shit together. They were few and far between and all of them would at least listen to what you had to say and maybe stop by your hole to get your opinion and go with that.

I had no problem calling them Sir.

Am I alone in this where I NEVER want ANYBODY to call me "SIR"? and feel it is an affront? a sign of disrespect? FM

Maybe you misunderstood. While active, I often pronounced sir as cur.
 
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No, Mike; getting into things is the last thing I want. I got carried away and got called on it, then went overboard getting the shorts in a twist. No harm, no foul, and I'm sorry I let it get me to the point where I got personal about it. I'm good, hope you are too. I've had better days, too.

And thank you, Maggot, for pulling on my reins at just the right moment. (Shmack...), I needed that.

Greg
 
No, Mike; getting into things is the last thing I want. I got carried away and got called on it, then went overboard getting the shorts in a twist. No harm, no foul, and I'm sorry I let it get me to the point where I got personal about it. I'm good, hope you are too. I've had better days, too.

And thank you, Maggot, for pulling on my reins at just the right moment. (Shmack...), I needed that.

Greg

Thats what friends are for. Hope you and yours are well.
 
If you knew how many beatings I got growing up over sir and ma'am, you'd cut me some slack when I said it... and kept saying it. That programing took.
This x1000000000. I find it amusing when some dude gets mad at me for saying sir, only has happened since I moved up here close to ATL... Believe it or not, it aint fckng intentional. Especially to someone giving me a hard time for it