I guess hassling Vets in wheelchairs, then shooting them is now sport in Seattle.....
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What an absolute moron. Just tossed his life away for nothing.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That's going to get Mr. White dude some years of confinement in WA state.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That's going to get Mr. White dude some years of confinement in WA state.
The perp here will get off easy. He only shot a wheelchair bound vet. It's not like he shot a BLM rioter.
At 37 seconds, a guy is wearing a Burnt Ridge MX Park shirt, LOL, I used to race out there. But to the point, the shooter is an idiot who tried to murder someone.
Too bad, the Seattle waterfront is really beautiful. My mom grew up on Capitol Hill (born 1946). She talks of a time where kids could run around and play 'til dark without any safety worries. I don't think it's the same place now. On the waterfront, where the shooting was, is such a weird place. It is filled with drug addicts and homeless people smoking weed and who knows what else. The waterfront smells like marijuana all the time, it is hard to escape the smell. You have to tell your children, yes kids, that is weed they are smoking.
But in the mix of all the crap, are just normal people walking up and down the sidewalks, walking over passed out people on the sidewalk, like they aren't even there and they're not even human beings.
A couple weeks ago, a kid (20-year-old) was passed out on the sidewalk in near 100ºf heat. I watched multiple groups of people walk right over him without a care in the world. Like he wasn't even there. The people who did notice him, mocked him, laughed at him, and simple made fun of him.
I don't know if the people just don't care, or have been exposed to so much for so long, they learn to not care because they can't do anything about it. I don't know. Here are some pics of the Seattle waterfront.
But in the mix of all the crap, are just normal people walking up and down the sidewalks, walking over passed out people on the sidewalk, like they aren't even there and they're not even human beings.
A couple weeks ago, a kid (20-year-old) was passed out on the sidewalk in near 100ºf heat. I watched multiple groups of people walk right over him without a care in the world. Like he wasn't even there. The people who did notice him, mocked him, laughed at him, and simple made fun of him.
I don't know if the people just don't care, or have been exposed to so much for so long, they learn to not care because they can't do anything about it. I don't know. Here are some pics of the Seattle waterfront.
If you pull out an airsoft gun to threaten someone, well sorry but you might just get someone pointing a real one at you.
I mean ask your local police what they do if someone points something that looks like a weapon at them...
I mean ask your local police what they do if someone points something that looks like a weapon at them...
Yeah, it took two idiots to complete this dance. One got a hole in his chest, the other will get the hole in his ass reamed out for about a decade.
From The Seattle Medium;
In the earlier Florida incident, Timm was convicted in 2021 of criminal mischief for crashing his van into a tent of Trump supporters in Jacksonville. While no injuries occurred, the act unsettled those present and prompted a social media response from Trump, who warned, “Be careful tough guys who you play with!” Timm now faces a first-degree assault charge in King County.
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Figures he was suffering from TDS. Probably a Democrat.
In the earlier Florida incident, Timm was convicted in 2021 of criminal mischief for crashing his van into a tent of Trump supporters in Jacksonville. While no injuries occurred, the act unsettled those present and prompted a social media response from Trump, who warned, “Be careful tough guys who you play with!” Timm now faces a first-degree assault charge in King County.
Gregory Timm Charged With Felony Assault In Seattle Veteran Shooting
Seattle shooting suspect Gregory Timm charged with felony assault after incident with wheelchair-bound veteran. National attention on his past controversies.
seattlemedium.com
Figures he was suffering from TDS. Probably a Democrat.
Well get prepared, because going to be a few more coming up eventually with this new Byrna Chem/kinetic round 'PISTOL' national advertisement campaign launched across TV, Radio, internet . Some fucker will dig and fumble to pull out his plastic Co2 Chem. pistol, and sure as shit will get a response with actual real return fire.
You can advertise labeling your plastic pistol as a 'Launcher', but reality is it still a Pistol when it is pulled out and getting pointed straight at you .
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I'm sure a few heel clicking ADAs will be trying to charge folks who shoot people that point those at them.
Right up until the police do it a few times and then everyone has to agree, you pretend to have a gun, get treated like you have a gun.
Totally valid point though the victim apparently wasn’t pointing the still holstered airsoft pistol at the perp. Not that I would wait for someone to do so either. This particular case was most certainly an attack provoked by the actual perp.
But, as you say, pull a toy/play/fake gun and expect to be treated as if it’s real.
Yeah, there was some hand wringing on the issue of "who pulled/who pulled first ?". The Prosecuting Attorney basically called bullshit and said that the shooter was the one that initiated the conflict in the first place and has no right to claim self defense after the fact, toy gun/real gun or not.
I tend to agree with the PA and besides, shooting anyone in a wheelchair is just lower than a snake's pecker. Particularly after the shooter was the one that initiated the conflict, which he clearly was. And, over something as non-life threatening as possible "stolen valor". In reality, the shooter was/is a moron.
This is (very liberal) seattle. The shooter will be convicted and will serve a long prison sentence. I'm OK with that.
If you are having a verbal disagreement regardless of who started it, if someone pulls out what looks to be a deadly weapon, well they should think through how that will go down.
Being in a wheelchair doesn't give you any pass if you pull out what appears to be a deadly weapon, just ask the police and all the rest of the folks who justify when the police do it.
A holster doesn’t magically make the gun not point at you, and some holsters are designed to be able to allow you to fire while holstered. I’m not waiting to find out which you have or if your guns airsoft
Side note(not directed at Lash) neither veteran status or a wheelchair excuse you from consequences. While both participants are retarded many of you fell into the trap this article set, good job retard
If you are capable of handling a weapon, you should be treated as such.
Doesn't mean I agree with the shooter here. Simply that if you brandish a weapon first, then you'd better use it or I see no problem with you getting lit up
Doesn't mean I agree with the shooter here. Simply that if you brandish a weapon first, then you'd better use it or I see no problem with you getting lit up
The person who starts the confrontation loses the right to use deadly force in self defense unless he first withdraws. Good luck proving that.
You don’t have to tell your kids anything or make up a story if you have a problem telling kids something exists. There’s no gun to your head forcing you hand not to say “it’s just a skunk” or “I don’t know” if they ask.
Did you help this 20-ish year old “kid” aka Adult Man?
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I guess it depends on the state.
Here even if someone starts an argument with you, you don't have the right to decide to pull out a deadly weapon over words and claim to be the victim.
So if 2 folks are having an argument verbally and one party decides to pull out what looks like a deadly weapon to try to make their point, well they are the initial aggressor regardless of who started the argument.
Wheelchair guy could have simply driven away and not tried to be the morality police.
Even in TX, if you start the confrontation and the other dude pulls a gun (even without justification) you cannot use deadly force. See 9.31(2)
The nuance here is you need to look at B part 1
It clearly states that you can't get butt hurt because of verbal argument alone.
It's pretty clear in the law and also in case history.
That however assumes that all this started with only an argument.
(Which it does not appear it did)
IF this had ONLY been an argument and wheelchair dude had pulled out weapons, it would have been pretty simple and favoured the guy that did the shooting.
Now where it gets different however is in the report where the police claim that the guy that ended up doing the shooting first grabbed a patch or other possession from the wheelchair guy while wheelchair guy was pulling out his wallet.
If that was to wind up being true, then guy that ended up being the shooting was technically committing a crime of theft / muggery or whatever they want to say, and as such was engaging in a criminal action which then sets him up as the aggressor and limits any claim of self defense.
Seems wheelchair guy pulled out a knife first then that didn't do much so he then decided to pull out a toy gun, that's what got him dead right or wrong.
Don't pull a toy gun on someone. If you are going to pull a gun, pull a real one and be prepared to be using it as it comes out or immediately if needed.
Yes I did, I gave him about six bottles of water, bought him a large healthy meal, and found an address for a shelter nearby. I also gave him every encouraging word I had and let him spend some time with my GSD. If I had the ability to do more I would have. I also drove back downtown the next day as it as going to be 100+ to check on him. I didn’t see him though.
In regards to lying, I don’t. Especially to kids. You don’t have to tell them everything, but I don’t believe in lying at all-ever.
And if you don’t think that snickering teenagers don’t know what that smell is when they’re asking…well they knew. Lying would have no benefit.
One message I’ve tried to send is only a handful of things are black and white, right and wrong. Most things are in between but all decisions have consequences and weed is no different.
I’d rather them understand the real consequences of using marijuana even if it’s legal here, than lye to them and pretend it doesn’t exist. That said, it still stinks and brings no utility to walking along a beautiful waterfront, it was nicer when people kept it behind closed doors.
If you mind your own business and something happens, then it probably is self defense.
Here is looks like the wheel chair guy was exercising self defense. Toy gun, real gun, knife or whatever. He was assaulted, allegedly.
Can you have two people doing self defense? Or does one of them have to be the aggressor?
I guess legalities are always the issue eh? That and definitions. And the crazy thing is it was all over alleged “stolen valor”.
Has someone verified the guy was actually a veteran?
Here is looks like the wheel chair guy was exercising self defense. Toy gun, real gun, knife or whatever. He was assaulted, allegedly.
Can you have two people doing self defense? Or does one of them have to be the aggressor?
I guess legalities are always the issue eh? That and definitions. And the crazy thing is it was all over alleged “stolen valor”.
Has someone verified the guy was actually a veteran?
It’s like luckyduck part 2Yes I did, I gave him about six bottles of water, bought him a large healthy meal, and found an address for a shelter nearby. I also gave him every encouraging word I had and let him spend some time with my GSD. If I had the ability to do more I would have. I also drove back downtown the next day as it as going to be 100+ to check on him. I didn’t see him though.
In regards to lying, I don’t. Especially to kids. You don’t have to tell them everything, but I don’t believe in lying at all-ever.
And if you don’t think that snickering teenagers don’t know what that smell is when they’re asking…well they knew. Lying would have no benefit.
One message I’ve tried to send is only a handful of things are black and white, right and wrong. Most things are in between but all decisions have consequences and weed is no different.
I’d rather them understand the real consequences of using marijuana even if it’s legal here, than lye to them and pretend it doesn’t exist. That said, it still stinks and brings no utility to walking along a beautiful waterfront, it was nicer when people kept it behind closed doors.
It’s ok Mike, I still like you well enough 
and if yer ever passed out on a sidewalk, after drawing a bunch of one winged airplanes on your face, I’ll buy you a chicken burrito too
and if yer ever passed out on a sidewalk, after drawing a bunch of one winged airplanes on your face, I’ll buy you a chicken burrito tooWouldn’t catch me dead in that faggy state lolIt’s ok Mike, I still like you well enough
Wouldn’t drive through Olympus let alone pass outYeah don’t pass out face down in Olympia
There is hope for Washington state. Right now is the dark times, but we will make WA red again. Outside the main cities Washington is extremely conservative.
If you ever change your mind Washington welcomes any good, hard-working, law-abiding, 6.5 Creedmoor shooting conservatives. But yeah look out for the Cookie Monster
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You’re arguing a separate issue, that being whether the wheelchair dude was justified in pulling out a weapon. The victim can be completely unjustified in using a weapon against a person who confronted him, but that does not give the provocateur the right to use deadly force. It’s like that in every state.
Remember the “take a swing” father/son duo? They confronted a neighbor over him dumping a mattress in an alley. He charged them with a bat. Where are they now?
Master Ken rocks. I'm proud to say that I am a Black Belt in the street lethal art of AMERI-DO-TE awarded by Master Ken.
You've brought up that police get away with it in several posts in this thread......not sure if this is sarcasm on your part? I know you know that you and I cannot do what the popo does.
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