I screwed up, or did I?

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Well, I screwed up and went and got myself fired today. I incredibly relieved, yet i'm very pissed at myself at the same time. I was exceptionally unhappy there, and it was effecting me at home on my days off. I put a lot of pride in doing a great job at whatever I do, and in the face of harassment at work, I put that all aside to express my feelings of what they are doing and they fired me.

Only bright side is that the unemployment is as much or in some cases more than my weekly pay check. I talked to my father, and he thinks that I did the right thing regardless of the outcome. He told me that he'd rather see me broke and happy, than depressed, with money.

Now I just have to find the job that'll make me happy, and figure out how to get my foot in the door.

Wonder if GAP needs an intern?

Branden
 
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I went through something similar two years ago my boss continually would make it so i could not keep my word with customers and kept giving me more responsibility with out a raise. During this time the rest of the small company with the exception of a few of the more senior guys that had hit a wage ceiling got $2.00 in raise while i stayed at the same rate. So I went to the office and gave him an ultimatum concerning my pay and and my customer relations and that was the end of that job. Now I am working for my self and it was the best thing that has happened to me I make about the same money and work much less. Now if i could just figure out how to not be busy during hunting season.
 
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A few years ago I was working for myself, had my own company selling consumer electronics online. Did pretty well for a long time but I worked constantly. I pretty much never got a break.

Been on the phone almost non-stop since leaving there about 2 hours ago, lining up whatever work I can.

Branden
 
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Frequently a step out is a step up. Why is it that many employers these days treat hardworking employees like cattle and kiss the ass of every slacker in sight ? I guess it's trendy not to have any employer/employee loyalty these days...

I discovered at an early age that the reward for doing good work is simply more work to do... another mystery
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Parallax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I discovered at an early age that the reward for doing good work is simply more work to do... another mystery
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I for some reason, honestly have no problem with that, the busier I am, the more I love it. My last job before this one had so much downtime that I was so incredibly bored, and I wasn't allowed to bring something to occupy my time waiting for new freight. That place was the cleanest, most organized facility because I made it that way. Once it got that way, nobody wanted to mess it up, and thus I had nothing to do!

Branden
 
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Dust_Remover
Working for ones self does involve more time however I would rather work more for my self as apposed to having to awnser to both the coustomer and the boss espesialy when the want some thing different and your boss is using you as a buffer between you and the coustoner.
 
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being self employeed is the beez neez if you can make it through this, I had been self employed for 5 years, this economy sucks though. Best of luck to you in your new adventure.
 
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I'll definitely check that out, thanks for the lead. Went over to a good friends house tonight to get my drink on and release a little of the stress that's been built up over some time. Luckily he lives about 2 blocks from me, so I just walk there, no DUI for me.

At this point in my life, most others in my age group are worried about making money, however I just simply want to be happy. If you're going to be doing something for 20+ years, you should be happy doing it.

I'll check out kcsouthern in the AM. Going to check out a couple utility companies as well. They are sometimes hard to get into, but if you get in, they are good companies to work for I hear.

Branden

P.S. As tempting as it is to ride the unemployment check bandwagon, I don't fancy myself that type of person. I have to be busy, hence i'm already creating a huge list of "projects".
 
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I really should have thought this through better. 2 little girls and a wife. I talked to my oldest tonight (almost 6) about what happened tonight and she wasn't please.

Going to start attending church to pray that thing go better for me.

Branden
 
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Sometimes even though you may not be "happy" at work you just have to suck it up work through it to pay the bills and care for the family. I hate to say it but I think you made a bad choice... you could still have looked for a new job while earning a paycheck... just my $.02 though, good luck and hopefully you find something quick.
 
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In these parts getting fired means no unemployment checks for a min of 6 to 8 weeks if you can even get them then so you might want to check into your local area rules while job searching so you don't get any harsh surprises.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doug.K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">S<span style="font-weight: bold">ometimes even though you may not be "happy" at work you just have to suck it up work through it to pay the bills and care for the family.</span> I hate to say it but I think you made a bad choice... you could still have looked for a new job while earning a paycheck... just my $.02 though, good luck and hopefully you find something quick. </div></div>

I you were single or married with no kids and your wife worked and supported your decision then I would think you made the right choice.

But with a wife and 2 kids I think it's a father's duty to put the family's need first.

Unemployment is not an automatic paycheck. Good luck to you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doug.K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">S<span style="font-weight: bold">ometimes even though you may not be "happy" at work you just have to suck it up work through it to pay the bills and care for the family.</span> I hate to say it but I think you made a bad choice... you could still have looked for a new job while earning a paycheck... just my $.02 though, good luck and hopefully you find something quick. </div></div>

I you were single or married with no kids and your wife worked and supported your decision then I would think you made the right choice.

But with a wife and 2 kids I think it's a father's duty to put the family's need first.

Unemployment is not an automatic paycheck. Good luck to you. </div></div>

Wife does work, and makes more money than I did. Health insurance is through her job since it was cheaper and better quality insurance. We've talked some more and she's on board and supports me. Financially, we'll be fine for a little while.

Branden
 
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Best of luck to you and your family. I'll send some thoughts your way for a better job with an employer that appreciates you. How did you get yourself fired? Tell your boss what you thought of him and he couldn't take it?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How did you get yourself fired? Tell your boss what you thought of him and he couldn't take it? </div></div>

No, not that dramatic. I would have loved to do that but I didn't want to give them ammunition to use against me for unemployment. I've made some calls and talked to some former employees and they all mentioned that the unemployment office is so sick of how many people get fired from that company that they don't even really give the company the opportunity to dispute the unemployment.

That facility runs 3 different departments, and I preferred one department over any other, and I worked VERY hard to make sure that I stayed there. My average production was up around 120%. Since the last bid for the union guys (i'm non-union) people like me that don't want to join the union started to get harassed by management. They started moving me from department to department, where I haven't worked for 1 1/2 years, and they expected me to run the same numbers. Yesterday wasn't my best day, irritated at the supervisor that moved me, I wasn't giving it my all. When they called me in for production I was at an 82%, but I had a time delay that wasn't in the computer yet. I told them my thoughts on what they were doing and said that I wasn't going to be able to improve to their standard in an area that I haven't worked in enough to be proficient. They then terminated me. 1 day under 100% in 2 1/2 years, and only missed 5 days in that time (whereas the average person there calls in about 10 days a year), and they felt the need to fire me. All in all, it's really their loss.

There is another company under construction across the street that opens at the beginning of the year. Once they open, there are a LOT of people planning to go over there, and the company will be hurtin'.

Branden
 
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Correct me if i'm wrong but if a person is fired i.e. "terminated" one is not eligible for unemployment benefits, correct?


Too bad you're not union, I've seen more incompetent fucks get their jobs back by crying to a union rep than I care to admit.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pointblank4445</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Correct me if i'm wrong but if a person is fired i.e. "terminated" one is not eligible for unemployment benefits, correct?


Too bad you're not union, I've seen more incompetent fucks get their jobs back by crying to a union rep than I care to admit. </div></div>

Otherway around. If you quit, you're not eligible in most cases. As with just about anything, there are exceptions on all sides of the fence.

On the second thing, i'm not a big union guy, but being around the management, I understood the need for the union at that company. I saw so many worthless people get back, or keep their jobs because of the union. I had my reasons for not wanting to go union, and it was worth it to me...period.

I spent today getting a couple things done, but mostly I spent a lot of time with my 2 year old. I can tell that she's very happy about that, and that pleases me.

Branden
 
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Since you asked, I think you screwed up.

Speaking one's mind to an employer is a luxury few of us can afford to indulge; and these days, especially so.

Essentially a wage earner is a slave to their paycheck, and the folks who sign said check hold all the cards. The only time it's harmless to speak one's mind is when one is leaving anyway, and even then it's still never wise.

Simply put; the bastards of this world tend to find the positions of authority, and I for one will be damned if I'll give them the benefit of my scant wisdom.

Let somebody else enlighten them.

I figure if they piss me off, they must be pissin' off others, and I'll let <span style="font-style: italic">them</span> put their livelihood on the line.

When folks tell you that you sometimes need to make sacrifices on your dependents' behalf, this is what they're talking about.

Now you've gotten that off your chest, it's time to settle down and find a new, better job, emphasis on the 'better'.

You start by settin' down and taking the time to define what 'better' means <span style="font-style: italic">for you</span>. I had to do that when I folded my business.

For me, better included something nearer home. Commuting was killing what little of my life wasn't already being dominated by work.

For me, better did not mean an endless succession of the same thing. I only made a fraction of my former income, but every time I moved on to another job, it was an entirely different one. I did construction, I sold wine, I made wine, I was a winery tour guide, I worked a plant assembly line, I tech'ed and set up industrial presses, etc., I handled production materials.

One good way to get that kind of experience is to get set up and established with a decent temp agency. A lot of them are not real temp agencies, but parasites that collude with employers.

Decent ones are the exception, and Kelly is among the best. I definitely recommend them.

When economies hit the ditch, and workforces get cut, the demand for temps actually seems to go up. You keep Kelly happy with your performance, and they will keep you busy.

Honestly, looking for a permanent position directly with companies is simply an endless nightmare. The temp agencies' assignments are often actually a much more direct approach, with a 90 day assignment that serves as a trial, either followed by a permanent hire, or soon, another assignment.

Seen in such a light, seeking direct employment in the current employment climate is essentially the refuge of a stagnant imagination.

Greg
 
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Usually when one door closes another door opens for you. Unfortunately you closed the door reself. I think the wise direction would have been a job lined up before getting fired, since you have a family to support.

I do understand you not being happy with your last job. I had a job for 31 years and the last 15 years sucked, but i had a wife and kids to support so i stayed with it.

I wish you the best of luck in your new job hunt and you get a job you truly like.
 
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You did OK, stress kills. I don't believe in staying in a stressful job.

My job was stressful for lack of work but they took care of that with the lay off notice and friday is my last day.

Screw working for someone, I'm going to write a book and work in consulting for a short while.

I'd rather sleep well at night than worry about a job.


Many years ago I worked for a fortune 500 company that required me to LIE to my customers about a print server that would be fixed in teh next version.

When in reality they were closing it down and discontinuing the product. So I asked my customers to call their field rep and ask for patch #blahblah and they got their fix.

But my customer complained that he should not have to do that so I was to be fired.
Except in the same letter he praised me for working with him and then signed a 3 mil contract.

I lost a $10k bonus but it was WORTH IT..

Honor first.