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IMHO hunting rifle

Herd Thinner

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I know some will question the caliber but stay focused. If you were to buy a 300 win mag for a hunting rifle that is cable of sub moa accuracy, 10 pounds or lighter and under 5000, just the rifle no optics and is capable of 1000 yard targets all day what would it be.........
 
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Rem donor action $450
bartlein sporter contour barrel $325
smithing from LRI $665
jewell trigger $240
Manners EH2 stock w/ bdl mini chassis $800
PTG bottom metal $100
seekins base & rings $220
Leupold vx-6 2-12x42 $900
misc parts & shipping $500

total $4200

or

Tikka T3 lite $750
rings/bases $100
VX3 $550
misc $100

total $1500

what do I win?
 
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depends on the type of hunting when it comes to optics and gizmos. usually less is better in the typical hunting woods. closer in brushy or wide open spaces, or somewhere in between? sub moa at 100Y or 500Y?

savage (even a stevens 200), rem 700, howa 1500, tikka lite should all get you there with more lightweight comfortable aftermarket stock options than you can shake a stick at. even a hogue overmolded for hunting under 200.00

savage / stevens 200 are economical enough and accurate, for around 350.00 you have more budget to work with, with savage / stevens probably being the most able to be adapted to your point of use in your own garage.

take the $ saved there and put towards dies, bullets and powder, etc. to set yourself up with ammo 110 to 200+ grains 300.00 ish

smith fee to trim the barrel a little for portability 100.00 ish

2 harris bipods 9-13" and the 13" -27" swivel models 200.00 ish

add a nice wide squishy sling, under 50.00.

rifle basix trigger 125.00 or the DIY savage trigger adjustment.

scope in the 4-12 or 16X range, redfield, millet, nikon, weaver, leopold, vortex can be found easy enough for 500.00 or less with lens covers

1 piece base and rings under 100.00.

deer / bear / elk don't care if it got shot by a 500.00 or a 5,000 gucci rig.

wouldn't worry about bottom metal / magazine fed on a hunting rifle, 1-2 shots is all you need.

1500.00-1900.00 including reloading supplies for a better than factory hunting setup, should be under 10lbs loaded.

even less $ depending on what you REALLY need and how savy of a shopper you are.
 
With that budget I would choose a GAP, but any of the custom smiths here on the hide are gonna meet your needs. I would probably twist my 300 on the fast side if it were me.
 
Why the need for 1000 for a hunting rig? Not being disrespectful but this seems to come up more and more, a hunting rifle for 1000 yard shots. Its something this old hunter cannot get sunk into my soft melon tissue. My longest shot taken was around 425 and I was very hesitant to trigger one off. Every other shot in the neighborhood of 300 closer to 250 - 275, This was how I was learned. I guess I was taught to hunt for meat and survival than the thrill of shooting an animal.

I have seen and talked to plenty of hunters running 300rum with 25x for hunting and it is a growing with high dollar super wizz bang rifles.

Me, Tikka T3 SS and use the coin saved for ammo and hunting. $4000 is at least 4 plane rides for hunting, camp building and meat gathering but to each his own.

good luck
 
Why the need for 1000 for a hunting rig? Not being disrespectful but this seems to come up more and more, a hunting rifle for 1000 yard shots. Its something this old hunter cannot get sunk into my soft melon tissue. My longest shot taken was around 425 and I was very hesitant to trigger one off. Every other shot in the neighborhood of 300 closer to 250 - 275, This was how I was learned. I guess I was taught to hunt for meat and survival than the thrill of shooting an animal.

I have seen and talked to plenty of hunters running 300rum with 25x for hunting and it is a growing with high dollar super wizz bang rifles.

Me, Tikka T3 SS and use the coin saved for ammo and hunting. $4000 is at least 4 plane rides for hunting, camp building and meat gathering but to each his own.

good luck


You are not being disrespectful at all that is a valid question. My reason is simple but my answer maybe slightly longer. The answer proficiency. I am an avid archery hunter. I practice shooting from different dictances, environments and such until I cant place an arrow wherever I choose at decent clips. Same with handguns. I can run any hand rig in my safe like it was part of me. I know there limitations and quirks. So how does this translate. One thing on my bucket list is to shoot 1000 yards. I like to have nice things but not be wasteful so I need justification hence a hunting rig. I totally,1000 percent agree that my kills will be at the distance you have listed. If by the grace of god that once in a life time shot of a 500 yard plus bull is in my spotter and there is an environment i know and i can run that gun like an extension of my arm. Im golden.
 
Stiller Tac300
Bartlein #3
Mcmillan HTG
BDL bottom metal
Timney or Jewell trigger

I did this with my 260. With a rem varmint contour it's about 10.5 with Leopold scope.
 
Hunting rifle Tikka T3 light. Inexpensive, accurate, light. Put a nice scope on it and your around 2200. If your looking for something really exceptional I would get a Gap, but it would be the Xtreme hunter in 6.5 Saum.
 
I know some will question the caliber but stay focused. If you were to buy a 300 win mag for a hunting rifle that is cable of sub moa accuracy, 10 pounds or lighter and under 5000, just the rifle no optics and is capable of 1000 yard targets all day what would it be.........

For hunting, a Tikka. I've been using a Tikka as my precision rifle for years now, and it has served me really well (VERY accurate for the money). They're lightweight, accurate, and affordable... that makes for a good hunting rifle in my mind! Mine is chambered in .308 Win with a 20" barrel, so mine isn't really a thousand-yard gun, but I've nailed a few p-dogs beyond 700 yards (714, 717, 765, etc), and I shoot small steel targets all day long inside of 650 yards with mine.
 
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This is a Stiller Predator
Krieger barel
Timney trigger
GRS long range stock
Nightforce 5.5-22x56

Without optics just under 5k

Shoots .150" @100m and 2" @1k
 
If the .30-'06 can be loaded to mimic (some) .300WM performance, it should stand to reason that the .280 can deliver adequate performance to 1Kyd with a lesser flash-bang. Personally, I could make do with it and never miss the additional recoil. My paper calcs suggest a .280 with a 150gr Nosler ballistic tip should probably make it to 1000 at or near supersonic, but heavier would be more of a sure thing. A 1:9" twist should stabilize up to 168's and maybe 175's. Believe me, a 150-168gr bullet going supersonic is going to arrive with terminal performance to spare. For me, the recoil of such weights with a .300wm would be intolerable, thanks to having my sternum remodeled a couple of times.

I think that any Savage rifle chambered for .30-'06, .270, or .25-'06 can be rebarreled with a quality replacement barrel of adequate length, and the entire setup can be done a lot more simply and affordably. Or, you could simply go with a .270 sporter. The point here being that the reduced bullet cross section permits significantly improved velocity retention, allowing a lighter weight bullet to give terminal performance equivalent to a heavier bullet out of a .30.

For less distant shots, 120gr and 140gr Noslers are completely adequate in the .280, and a lot more pleasant to shoot out of a hunter weight rifle. Rem Core-Lokt 140's and Hornady 139 SST Superformance are very acceptable factory loadings for anything out to 500yd at least.

My 280's are both Ruger MKI factory rifles, one with a sporter barrel, and the other with a somewhat rarer factory varmint weight barrel. The sporter is a pleasure to carry in the field, and the varmint weight would be my choice for anything far beyond 600yd.

My thinking about extreme distance shots for big game are that as satisfying as it would be to achieve such a shot successfully, the odds for another outcome become prohibitive. Honestly, I value the cost of a wounded animal getting away to die inhumanely too high to warrant such a risk. I'm no Bambi-hugger, but I do respect the game animal too much to risk that sort of worse case scenario.

Each year, as the deer season moves along, I've seen another beautiful trophy buck dead and rotting in the deeper thickets, and that's a pretty big, bad waste in my book. I once also needed to dispatch a wounded deer that had been blinded by a faulty head shot. The animal was clearly in a state no animal deserves to be in, and the infection made the carcass too much of a gamble to harvest. The animal had clearly been in that state for days and days. So as much as our creative sides tell us it's worth doing, my experience tells me it's too big of a gamble for the animal for me to take such chances.

Greg
 
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