Re: Improving accuracy in an AR-10
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: McGuyver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the links to the videos.
I've gone back and forth between the pad and joint on the AR. I prefer using the pad on my bolt guns, but it feels so akward to do on an AR, I relented to use the first joint of the finger. Still don't like it though. I bought an Ergo delux grip recently, and I'm hoping the thicker grip will move my hand back far enough to make it feel more natural to use the pad of the finger... </div></div>Some of the best shooters here and the guys at Rifles Only and the site owner say that everything needs to be built from the trigger finger back. So do everything you can to get that pad of your finger 90* to the trigger, forming an L shape between the tip and middle knuckle and pull straight back. They say you cannot achieve a stright back pull using a joint in your finger.
This is almost word for word from a clip from the SH online training of Jacob from Rifles Only <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"The trigger acts like a tuning fork when the explosion from the bullet happens. When you set off a tuning fork then touch it to something it bounces away from that object. The trigger being the tuning fork and your finger being the object it bounces off of. If you pull the trigger right during the shot, your shot will go left. If you pull the trigger left, shot goes right."</div></div> So pulling the trigger straight back is crucial.
Here is Lowlight talking about some of this method. Notice how different Jacob's grip is compared to what you would be used to. The top pic is how he describes that some of his students have to position their hand to get the 90. The second pic is the grip he uses. This is the way he has to position his hand on this rifle to get the 90* straight back pull. It might be different for other people and different from rifle to rifle but you need to build your grip depending on this.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The credit goes to Rifles Only for this grip
The Online Training posted "trigger school" in August of 2009... here is the screen shot from that...
You have to support the rifle with the firing hand. Done correctly the rifle is supported and floating the thumb is only an option, not a rule. The goal of that position is to use the mechanics of the 90 degree trigger finger, and to support the rifle during recoil.
The way to eliminate the sympathetic squeeze is to rotate the hand to achieve the 90 and then to use a front to back pressure against the grip like the firing hand of a handgun. Trigger school, is only one part and is over 10 minutes long, it doesn't even address Follow Through which is another 10 minutes worth... 20 minutes on Trigger Control alone... not including other instances of discussion on it.
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I tried this at home, dry firing and watching the trigger and my finger pad placement and how it affected the trigger pull. I did go out and shoot for the day while practicing it and it did make a difference for me, still working on it.
The tuning fork comment made a lot of sense to me and set that light bulb off in my head. The SH online training teasers are great, much less the actual training videos. They are full of no bullshit, plain English information and proven techniques.
It cannot be perfectly explained with still shots and words. Some of this stuff has to be seen to really sink in and understand. What I explained is about two minutes of a 5 minute teaser type clip I have seen. I plan on signing up for the full online training soon and eventually some classes.
