Long time lurker, first time poster. I am an avid hunter and long range opportunist. I don't shoot in matches or tournaments, but myself and several buddies like to get out on the power line easements and clear cuts were we regularly shoot for distance. . .we have one area with a 1100 yard perch, that is our furthest shot. I have several rifles that I shoot at long range, but my pet rifle is a 280AI and this is one I would like to bolt-up into a chassis system. It has taken me some time to warm up to these (I'm old school Manners/McMillan shooter) and after toying with AR's for a several years and how I've been able to make them fit me and my shooting styles I've convinced myself to give a chassis system a try. I have looked over MANY of the chassis systems out there and have narrowed my choices down to three manufacturers with their chassis that I like based on appearance and function FROM WHAT I HAVE READ; XLR Element, MDT LSS-XL Gen2 and the Mcree G10. I'm not interested in a folding or collapsible butt stock and each of these chassis allow you to add fixed AR style butt stocks and grips. I'm looking for a lite weight ridged chassis with an open barrel channel, vented foregrip of moderate length with buffer tube type butt stock availability, all this while while keep cost down to under $750.00. So of these three which has the best bang for the buck and most shooter friendly. Thanks in advance for your replies.
In the market for my first chassis. . .could use some advice.
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I currently use a XLR Carbon, and it has their XLR Tactical buttstock on it. I absolutely loved it once I had it adjusted perfectly for me. I gave the MDT LSS (not XL) a shot with the XLR buttstock and also a Magpul CTR stock. I wasn't a fan of how it felt compared to the Carbon, but I doubt you can go wrong either way. It really comes down to personal preference, yet I vote XLR.
The Mcree ain't the prettiest, and they did make an ass of themselves with their bubble level patent...but I am sure it would work fine if you get a deal on one.
Keep an eye out in the PX. Elements with stocks will pop for around $500 often enough.
The Mcree ain't the prettiest, and they did make an ass of themselves with their bubble level patent...but I am sure it would work fine if you get a deal on one.
Keep an eye out in the PX. Elements with stocks will pop for around $500 often enough.
I have an XLR Envy and an MDT LSS Gen II. Both Re great. The finish on the XLR is a litttle nicer. It feels like a better made product, but otherwise they are very similar.
I'm also a fan of the XLR products....that said, it's pretty hard to find a bad chassis these days.
You can spend a lot more and not really get much for it (AOI, Cadex).
You can spend a lot more and not really get much for it (AOI, Cadex).
No disrespect to anyone here but I am not a fan of the XLR Chassis. I do not like having the stock extension going over the top of my hand on a bolt gun, which I realize many chassis do, but in addition the cheek riser is too wide and feels like resting your cheek on a coke bottle. I also think they're ugly, but YMMV. They do have good options if you don't want to spend a lot of money.
I like the KRG chassis and the MPA is also nice. KRG has a ton of accessory options for theirs
I like the KRG chassis and the MPA is also nice. KRG has a ton of accessory options for theirs
No buffer tube but the krg X-ray or bravo and the mpa hybrid might fit your desription of what you find ideal.
As far as the most shooter friendly goes, I'd be looking very closely at the MPA chassis. Not the sexiest looking chassis, but incredibly adjustable and adaptable, also surprisingly comfortable.
Also FWIW, I think having an AR buffer on a chassis is a chicken shit cost saving measure that shows the company didn't want to design a proper stock.
Again, YMMV
Again, YMMV
I’m gonna go with an element with a ingenuity gun works rail. Prices on the elements are pretty reasonable and leaves more room for addons
"Also FWIW, I think having an AR buffer on a chassis is a chicken shit cost saving measure that shows the company didn't want to design a proper stock."
Yeah, and David Tubb proved that it was a stupid idea.
Go with what you like....Like I said it's hard do to go wrong.
Yeah, and David Tubb proved that it was a stupid idea.
Go with what you like....Like I said it's hard do to go wrong.
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I sure do like that "chicken shit cost saving measure" . . .that allows me to make things how "I" want them, which in turn makes other people like them as well, which in turn SELLS MORE PRODUCT!
Yup. . .he sure did. All the way to the leader board and the bank!!!
Thanks for all the replies fellas. I think I'm going to give the XLR Element a go. If I understand this right. . .the area to thread on the buffer tube is millspec, it is just the XLR buffer tube itself that is over sized and doesn't allow the use of other stocks to be installed over it - correct? I may even give their Tactical Lite stock a try. . .see if maybe I can take a liking to it too.
You didn't say which action/rifle will be going in the chasis? I personally think KRG is at the top of the heap. They make fixed and folders and their prices reflect that much.
The action is a 700 Rem LA and it sports a 26" Krieger #4 barrel. I've looked at the KRG chassis and just didn't see anything that turned me on. I've looked at many others as well that were in my price range and the three I've listed caught my eye. See, I'm one of those old shallow bastards. . . I have to be VISUALLY STIMULATED by a woman first before I'll take her home or be out in public with her and I like my rifles the same way. . .they gotta be sexy! LOL
XLR Envy or MPA. I have two short action Envys and a long action headed this way, along with two Elements. The 308 & 223 trainers are in Elements, and are decent for hunting since they are a little more compact and lighter. The two 6.5 creedmoor comp guns are in the Envys, and I have a Defiance 338 Norma going in the long action Envy. The Envy stretches out the bipod an extra 2 1/2" and creates a more stable position in prone. Also the integral arca-swiss rail let's you add their barricade stop or attach it to a tripod quickly, plus it's a little wider surface than the Element which adds some stability off of barricades too.
Fwiw, I also have a Tubb gun and the butt is *not* designed after the AR. He thought it was too fat and made it narrower. It also attaches totally different, it's a quick connect so you can swap stocks in seconds, not screw in buffer tube style. But, I still think the XLR is easy to get behind and nice to shoot.
I will say, if you shoot a lot, get the folding adapter and shorter buffer tube if you go XLR. Otherwise when you clean the gun you have to take the stock off of the buffer tube which takes a little time and can be annoying if you are in a hurry.
Fwiw, I also have a Tubb gun and the butt is *not* designed after the AR. He thought it was too fat and made it narrower. It also attaches totally different, it's a quick connect so you can swap stocks in seconds, not screw in buffer tube style. But, I still think the XLR is easy to get behind and nice to shoot.
I will say, if you shoot a lot, get the folding adapter and shorter buffer tube if you go XLR. Otherwise when you clean the gun you have to take the stock off of the buffer tube which takes a little time and can be annoying if you are in a hurry.
Offshore, You, me and every one here has to be (turned on) visually stimulated to spend their hard earned dollars on a chassis.
Here's something fairly new you can check out...
http://www.thebrasstacs.com/2017/10/11/best-rifle-ever/
Don't pay too much attention to the title, it's a writer's game. The designer and builder is a friend of mine. He and his dad own/operate Saltzman Gun Works Inc. in Tipton IN. They have done a ton of work for me since I first got into the Long Range Rifle/Sniper world back in 1997.
http://www.thebrasstacs.com/2017/10/11/best-rifle-ever/
Don't pay too much attention to the title, it's a writer's game. The designer and builder is a friend of mine. He and his dad own/operate Saltzman Gun Works Inc. in Tipton IN. They have done a ton of work for me since I first got into the Long Range Rifle/Sniper world back in 1997.
ive owned 2 XLRs and did not like either one...im actually a chassis hater LOL...im shooting a MPA and love this thing...not because its a chassis or tacticool but because of the ergonomics and all of the options they offer....IMHO this is the best put together and well thought out chassis on the market id suggest you take a hard look at them and compare them to the others your looking at be for you buy.
I'm just building my first so I'm not an expert - I have handled a lot of rifles and chassis in the last year and my Savage 10 gets an MDT LSS-XL Gen2 and a XLR Extreme butt stock this Summer. The XLR Evolution chassis comes in at a very close second choice for me.
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Spoke to xlr this week. Ordered an envy. They told me theyre starting to offer the envy with a full length RRS dove tail. FYI
I do not currently own an XLR Chassis yet, but I have had the chance to shoulder one. I have to say very pleased with the comfort of the chassis. I'm currently in the middle of building a light weight 223 trainer rig and have been looking for a chassis to complete my build and I think that I will go with XLR Industries.
XLR fan, my only complaint is the cheek piece is large. Large as in radius, it feels like you have to tilt your head to get straight behind the scope. I have heard others state this also but not everyone so probably just depends on your cheek bones. I do know I am currently designing a new cheek piece for me because of it however.
