Incredible Video

[Slapchop]

An American cargo plane crash was caught on video near Bagram Airfield. May the crew RIP

LiveLeak.com - Bagram Airfield Crash 29 APR 2013

I'm no pilot but it seems as though this was some kind of stall.

 

[tfwag2003]

WTF happened. Too much weight?

 

[Itsgoodsoup]

Looks like it could have been a load shift on take off.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

phenomenal footage of a terrible situation, and my God have Mercy on their Souls.

Damn....

"Looks like it could have been a load shift on take off." Holy Crap, good thinking. That there is synonymous with the "internal slide-hammer." Definitely not an effect that one wants during take-off and initial ascent.

That there (if in fact this is the cause) would then be Loadmaster territory, would it not?

Damn twice.....

 

[diverdon]

Looks like it could have been a load shift on take off.

Possible. What I see is that the angle of attack was much too steep for the speed of the aircraft.

Perhaps:

1) The pilot was hotdogging (this has happened)
2) flight control malfunction (electrical or hydraulic)
3) The aforementioned load shift or the load was out of balance from the get go

For some reason the pilot could not or did not get the nose down, failed to maintain flying speed, stalled and spun in. Then I only fly Cessna's and a Bellanca, so others with more relevant experience may want to chime in.

May the crew and passengers RIP.

 

[Phil1]

WTF happened. Too much weight?

Scott says:
April 29, 2013 at 2:55 pm

I witnessed this crash today and there was no Taliban involvement. I can tell you this for sure – the 747 took off and commenced a quite steep climb out, not unusual for here, then one of two things happened. In my opinion either the strong head wind or a micro up burst caused it to pitch upward at what looked to be at least 85deg. Nose up or the cargo shifted to the rear and caused it to nose up. It then did what all swept wing aircraft do in a stall and pitched left at about 1200 Ft AGL, then it seemed like the pilot tried to correct and it pitched right and headed for the ground just before impact. It looked like it had flattened out to nearly level but had very little or no forward speed – what followed was the ground shook, followed by a large ball of fire and a huge black cloud of smoke. I truly wish I had not seen this, but I did, and my prayers and thoughts go out to all involved – both on board and the family and loved ones of the crew and passengers.


alvin says:
April 29, 2013 at 3:14 pm

as scott says thats what exactly happened. i saw the same thing as well…
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Teresa says:
April 29, 2013 at 3:36 pm

As Scott stated, I witnessed the same thing. My prayers go to the family members for their loss of loved ones in this horrific accident. God rest their souls.
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Garrett says:
April 29, 2013 at 4:33 pm

I’m guessing “micro UP burst” was a typo? Micro bursts are downdrafts associated with thunderstorms.

My condolences to the families of the crew and anyone that knew them.
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Scott says:
April 29, 2013 at 4:48 pm

I guess i should have said micro burst. You are correct, Garrett, but the result of a micro burst is the downward burst of air, the part that I am talking about is the outflow front or the horizontal vortex. Either way, it is not relevant at all. The plane crashed and people died, but I am very proud of you for pointing this out Garrett … let me guess you work as a Maint. Controller?

john says:
April 30, 2013 at 3:31 pm

classic pitch up due to shifting load at rotation which then puts the aircraft out of balanced flight. Many accidents have happened this way with cargo flights. Lost a friend years ago flying a small Beech-18 with newspapers in it. Same thing with pitch up, stall and crash.

Bless those that were lost.


the Loadstar » National Air Cargo mourns loss of crew in Bagram crash

 

[HD1911]

Rest in Peace.

 

[Jethro3898]

tough to watch

 

[Name Enough]

God Bless those families that face this tragic loss. May they RIP.

 

[samuraiwarrior23]

Wow the was crazy had to be load shift.

 

[JSTARSZ]

If you have ever been to Bagram airfield (BAF) you would know that the planes coming off the runway go up in a very steep angel for two reasons - the mountains on the other end of the runway and the threat of Taliban SA-7's which I don't believe has ever occurred at Bagram. When you see the F-15's go out at full twin engine afterburner it is a sight to see as the pull up quickly and accelerate upwards but a 747 when it gets in trouble they have nothing left to add power to. It could also be an engine failure but I am sure the report from the NTSB will tell the cause.

I lived right off the runway at BAF and those F-15's are hard to sleep through. I had to wear earplugs to sleep with which is also hard to get used to.

 

[Phil1]

More bad news in that part of the world, KC-135.

3 May 2013 Last updated at 07:24 ET
US tanker plane 'crashes in Kyrgyzstan after take off'

A US military cargo plane has crashed after taking off from an airbase in Kyrgyzstan, local reports say.

The aircraft came down near the village of Chaldovar, about 160km (100 miles) west of the US Transit Center at Manas, the Kyrgyz emergencies ministry said.

Officials said the plane had broken into three pieces but information about casualties has yet to be released.

Seven crew members died when a US civilian cargo plane crashed at Bagram airbase in Afghanistan on Monday.

Witnesses of the Kyrgyzstan crash told local media that they had seen an explosion and heard a boom.

The US military uses the Manas airbase to maintain its operations in Afghanistan.

The transport plane was carrying a cargo of fuel when it disappeared off the radar near Chaldovar, close to the border with Kazakhstan, the Reuters news agency reported.

Rescue services went to the scene, a spokesman for the emergency situations ministry said.

However, local media reported that fire engines were struggling to reach the wreckage due to the mountainous terrain.
BBC News - US tanker plane 'crashes in Kyrgyzstan after take off'