Guys I am looking for a nice piece of glass to go on a DPMS SASS and I think I have narrowed it down between a IOR 6-24x50 (the new tactical model with zero stop) and a NXS 5.5-22 zero stop. I plan on mounting it with a larue quick detach mount. Here is my question I hope you can help with, (I did do a search before I am asking). Which one of these two brands would you choose and why? I am in a a small town and can't look at the IOR before I buy. I have looked through a nightforce. Please help me make an informed decision based on your first hand knowledge.
Rifle Scopes IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
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Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Nightforce. I have no experience with the IOR, but from what I have read it does not have a good reputation. I just ordered a NSX from sport optics and I can't wait to get to use it. The construction is top notch and very durable, the knobs are big and responsive, and it they have a good reputation.
Talk to Jay or Chris at sportoptics and they will hook you up.
Nightforce. I have no experience with the IOR, but from what I have read it does not have a good reputation. I just ordered a NSX from sport optics and I can't wait to get to use it. The construction is top notch and very durable, the knobs are big and responsive, and it they have a good reputation.
Talk to Jay or Chris at sportoptics and they will hook you up.
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Go Nightforce and be done with it. I have watched many IOR's fail first hand under the same user (3 and the 4th appears to be on its way out now with focusing issues for the fellow yet again)...
Granted one of their dealers admits that the series was a 'turd' and they believe it has been 'fixed' with the newer gens and bigger tubes - I am not sure I would chance it...
-pd
Go Nightforce and be done with it. I have watched many IOR's fail first hand under the same user (3 and the 4th appears to be on its way out now with focusing issues for the fellow yet again)...
Granted one of their dealers admits that the series was a 'turd' and they believe it has been 'fixed' with the newer gens and bigger tubes - I am not sure I would chance it...
-pd
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Out of those 2 choices NF hands down. I get my NF glass from www.cstactical.com If it were my rifle I would put a NF unmount on it instead of a quick release system (unless you plan on swapping it around frequently).
Out of those 2 choices NF hands down. I get my NF glass from www.cstactical.com If it were my rifle I would put a NF unmount on it instead of a quick release system (unless you plan on swapping it around frequently).
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I just got the IOR 6-24x50FFP so far so good.Very impressed!There's allot to like about it.I also have 3 NF's and they are great scopes but all SFP.The Bushnell 3-12x44FFP is a sleeper scope.It doesn't give up much to other higher priced scopes.
I just got the IOR 6-24x50FFP so far so good.Very impressed!There's allot to like about it.I also have 3 NF's and they are great scopes but all SFP.The Bushnell 3-12x44FFP is a sleeper scope.It doesn't give up much to other higher priced scopes.
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Well to me. IOR glass is the best I have ever looked through TO ME!!! and I have or have had USO/SB/NF/Bushnell/IOR ++
as far as tracking, I have not had good luck/w IOR
TO ME! it does not matter how clear the glass is, if it does not track. NF for me
Well to me. IOR glass is the best I have ever looked through TO ME!!! and I have or have had USO/SB/NF/Bushnell/IOR ++
as far as tracking, I have not had good luck/w IOR
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nightforce by a mile. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nightforce by a mile. </div></div>
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Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Thanks for the recommendation Storm Tactical...
I really like Nightforce Scopes. For the dolor and what you get they are very hard to beat.
I'm using a 3.5-15x50mm with MLR and Mil-RAD turrets. It would have been really nice to have the High Speed Turrets in this match
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Mike @ CST
Thanks for the recommendation Storm Tactical...
I really like Nightforce Scopes. For the dolor and what you get they are very hard to beat.
I'm using a 3.5-15x50mm with MLR and Mil-RAD turrets. It would have been really nice to have the High Speed Turrets in this match
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Mike @ CST
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I would go with a 3-18 IOR mil/mil FFP if you want to go the IOR route (1500$ new) and look for a FFP nightforce used if you want to go that route. I like IOR a lot but Nightforce seem to be built a bit better and I think warranty work gets done faster if/when you have a problem. As far as glass goes they are in the same category imo.
I would go with a 3-18 IOR mil/mil FFP if you want to go the IOR route (1500$ new) and look for a FFP nightforce used if you want to go that route. I like IOR a lot but Nightforce seem to be built a bit better and I think warranty work gets done faster if/when you have a problem. As far as glass goes they are in the same category imo.
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I was looking at both of these scope lines about 6 months ago, and asked for opinions on another forum, the resulting answer from a trusted source was that IOR takes forever to get serviced and it is more likely to need servicing than the Nightforce. However, looking through both I think the IOR had better glass. It's a trade-off, but not much of one in my mind... I like shooting; therefore, I like using things that hold-up or that can be repaired and returned quickly.
I was looking at both of these scope lines about 6 months ago, and asked for opinions on another forum, the resulting answer from a trusted source was that IOR takes forever to get serviced and it is more likely to need servicing than the Nightforce. However, looking through both I think the IOR had better glass. It's a trade-off, but not much of one in my mind... I like shooting; therefore, I like using things that hold-up or that can be repaired and returned quickly.
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I went through this same situation a few months ago and went with nightforce. After several range trips I decided I would like to compare it to an IOR since the glass in the nightforce wasn't quite as good as I was expecting. I have since ordered an IOR off of ebay and it will be in tomorrow. I'll PM you when I compare them side by side and let you know what looks best to my eyes. I'm guessing the IOR will have better glass but I am not sure how it will track. I know the nightforce tracks perfectly.
I went through this same situation a few months ago and went with nightforce. After several range trips I decided I would like to compare it to an IOR since the glass in the nightforce wasn't quite as good as I was expecting. I have since ordered an IOR off of ebay and it will be in tomorrow. I'll PM you when I compare them side by side and let you know what looks best to my eyes. I'm guessing the IOR will have better glass but I am not sure how it will track. I know the nightforce tracks perfectly.
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Glass quality imo comes second to tracking ability... and i would go with whatever has the best track record of the mentioned group.
Im very happy with my nightforce, and believe that it is a rugged piece of equipment.
I need to have the assurance that my rifle will shoot where I want her to. A lack of confidence in my scope is just another variable I would like to get rid of.
In saying all of this I have never used an IOR, but based on what others above are saying, I would go with the Nightforce if you have the resources to do so.
Glass quality imo comes second to tracking ability... and i would go with whatever has the best track record of the mentioned group.
Im very happy with my nightforce, and believe that it is a rugged piece of equipment.
I need to have the assurance that my rifle will shoot where I want her to. A lack of confidence in my scope is just another variable I would like to get rid of.
In saying all of this I have never used an IOR, but based on what others above are saying, I would go with the Nightforce if you have the resources to do so.
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I have both: I.O.R 6-24x50mm and NightForce 5-25x50mm Zero Stop. Both have worked great. The glass on both is superb with no tracking problems.
However, I would get the NightForce because the 5-25x50mm is a little more compact compared to the I.O.R. I have been tempted by the I.O.R 3-18 FFP scope. A lot of shooters seem to like this scope. PAT.
I have both: I.O.R 6-24x50mm and NightForce 5-25x50mm Zero Stop. Both have worked great. The glass on both is superb with no tracking problems.
However, I would get the NightForce because the 5-25x50mm is a little more compact compared to the I.O.R. I have been tempted by the I.O.R 3-18 FFP scope. A lot of shooters seem to like this scope. PAT.
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Thanks for all the good info, yes I agree that tacking reliable and the warranty/repair are all extremely important. I wouldn't want to wait very long for my optic to be repaired and I have seen and heard nothing but good things from NF people. I wasn't planning on forking out extra for the FFP though, am I making a mistake? I didn't figure it would be too hard to set the scope where it needs to be set at in order to calculate distance, the range I shoot at goes out to 500 and I know the distance anyways (although I will practice otherwise so I can properly take a clean shot off the range
) Also would you guys get a 50 or the 56 objective lens and why? I am also looking at the Mil-dot reticle, I know the MLR is another popular one any advice and why one over another? And seriously thanks again for all the responses.
Thanks for all the good info, yes I agree that tacking reliable and the warranty/repair are all extremely important. I wouldn't want to wait very long for my optic to be repaired and I have seen and heard nothing but good things from NF people. I wasn't planning on forking out extra for the FFP though, am I making a mistake? I didn't figure it would be too hard to set the scope where it needs to be set at in order to calculate distance, the range I shoot at goes out to 500 and I know the distance anyways (although I will practice otherwise so I can properly take a clean shot off the range
) Also would you guys get a 50 or the 56 objective lens and why? I am also looking at the Mil-dot reticle, I know the MLR is another popular one any advice and why one over another? And seriously thanks again for all the responses.Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
I have noticed that a lot of you guys are bashing the IOR First Focal Plan, how about the SFP scopes. You really never hear about them because they don't have the issues with breaking down for some reason. Please compare NF and IOR SFP scopes. would NF still be on top?
xdeano
I have noticed that a lot of you guys are bashing the IOR First Focal Plan, how about the SFP scopes. You really never hear about them because they don't have the issues with breaking down for some reason. Please compare NF and IOR SFP scopes. would NF still be on top?
xdeano
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
I think if you are comparing the durability of nightforce and ior, the nightforce will be tougher every time. This is based purely off of what I have read, but I have read a lot on this subject.
I think if you are comparing the durability of nightforce and ior, the nightforce will be tougher every time. This is based purely off of what I have read, but I have read a lot on this subject.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bward</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think if you are comparing the durability of nightforce and ior, the nightforce will be tougher every time. This is based purely off of what I have read, but I have read a lot on this subject. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bward</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think if you are comparing the durability of nightforce and ior, the nightforce will be tougher every time. This is based purely off of what I have read, but I have read a lot on this subject. </div></div>
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Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
I just went through this, because I need a new scope myself. Personally I own Nightforce and Leupold, but I wanted to see what the other manufacturers brought to the table, before I get a new one. I borrowed a bunch of scopes from people I knew and compared them side by side. The Scopes included the IOR, Nightforce NXS, Schmidt and Bender, Vortex Razor, and Leupold Mark 4.
As far as the best, I would have to say the S&B was my favorite all around, with the Nightforce second. The Vortex Razor was nice, but at full power, the eye relief was very sensitive. The IOR had glass on par with S&B and Nightforce, but I just couldn't get over how big the reticle was on full power. The Leupold......I've never really liked them. I'm not sure why, but compared to my Nightforces, they just take a back seat. I've never had one that had glass as nice as the Nightforce.
So if I were to pick, my personal choices would be:
1) Nightforce - Nice knobs, great glass, always dependable, tough as nails. Everything external is metal, no rubber. (personally I feel rubber deteriorates over time)
2) S&B - Would be my number one pick, but just too expensive! Has the best glass out of all that I looked through. Someday I may break down and buy one.
3) Vortex Razor - Great Scope, very clear, just sensitive eye relief at full power. Zero stop is kind of interesting, but works.
4) Leupold or IOR - both good scopes. Just personal preferences prevent me from ranking these any higher.
I just went through this, because I need a new scope myself. Personally I own Nightforce and Leupold, but I wanted to see what the other manufacturers brought to the table, before I get a new one. I borrowed a bunch of scopes from people I knew and compared them side by side. The Scopes included the IOR, Nightforce NXS, Schmidt and Bender, Vortex Razor, and Leupold Mark 4.
As far as the best, I would have to say the S&B was my favorite all around, with the Nightforce second. The Vortex Razor was nice, but at full power, the eye relief was very sensitive. The IOR had glass on par with S&B and Nightforce, but I just couldn't get over how big the reticle was on full power. The Leupold......I've never really liked them. I'm not sure why, but compared to my Nightforces, they just take a back seat. I've never had one that had glass as nice as the Nightforce.
So if I were to pick, my personal choices would be:
1) Nightforce - Nice knobs, great glass, always dependable, tough as nails. Everything external is metal, no rubber. (personally I feel rubber deteriorates over time)
2) S&B - Would be my number one pick, but just too expensive! Has the best glass out of all that I looked through. Someday I may break down and buy one.
3) Vortex Razor - Great Scope, very clear, just sensitive eye relief at full power. Zero stop is kind of interesting, but works.
4) Leupold or IOR - both good scopes. Just personal preferences prevent me from ranking these any higher.
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I too am looking at an IOR but in SFP 4-14x50 with the illuminated recticle. I spoke with Scott at Liberty Optics and if I remember correctly he said that he sells alot of them and had 5 or less returned in a 2 year period. But Ive been torn between a Mk. 4 Luepold LRT M1 and the IOR. I want 1/4 MOA and need a illuminated reticle. I would say that if you can swing cost of the differnce between the two I would go with Night Force. My budget is about 1200 max.
I too am looking at an IOR but in SFP 4-14x50 with the illuminated recticle. I spoke with Scott at Liberty Optics and if I remember correctly he said that he sells alot of them and had 5 or less returned in a 2 year period. But Ive been torn between a Mk. 4 Luepold LRT M1 and the IOR. I want 1/4 MOA and need a illuminated reticle. I would say that if you can swing cost of the differnce between the two I would go with Night Force. My budget is about 1200 max.
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I have Nightforce. The last IOR I saw at Quantico did not have enough elevation to go to 1000 yards WITH A 20 MOA BASE. Clarity be damed, if you don't have enough elevation to get the job done. Maybe you can SEE the 8's you shooting out the bottom.....lol
Good luck
Jerry
I have Nightforce. The last IOR I saw at Quantico did not have enough elevation to go to 1000 yards WITH A 20 MOA BASE. Clarity be damed, if you don't have enough elevation to get the job done. Maybe you can SEE the 8's you shooting out the bottom.....lol
Good luck
Jerry
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Zebra, I would shop around and find an IOR in your price range as opposed to going with a Leupold.
Zebra, I would shop around and find an IOR in your price range as opposed to going with a Leupold.
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerry M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have Nightforce. The last IOR I saw at Quantico did not have enough elevation to go to 1000 yards WITH A 20 MOA BASE. Clarity be damed, if you don't have enough elevation to get the job done. Maybe you can SEE the 8's you shooting out the bottom.....lol
Good luck
Jerry </div></div>
What model was that? Could've had something wrong with it. I had a leupold that with a 100 yard zero it only had 12 moa up but it had 26 down. The spec was like 42? Was a 6.5-20 if I remember right. The redfield I replaced it with at 100 yards had more up than down so I figured it was the scope.
The IOR's I've used have all had great glass but the only model so far that has "all the right features" is the 3-18 mil FFP but I know the 3-18 model has a bit of history behind it...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerry M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have Nightforce. The last IOR I saw at Quantico did not have enough elevation to go to 1000 yards WITH A 20 MOA BASE. Clarity be damed, if you don't have enough elevation to get the job done. Maybe you can SEE the 8's you shooting out the bottom.....lol
Good luck
Jerry </div></div>
What model was that? Could've had something wrong with it. I had a leupold that with a 100 yard zero it only had 12 moa up but it had 26 down. The spec was like 42? Was a 6.5-20 if I remember right. The redfield I replaced it with at 100 yards had more up than down so I figured it was the scope.
The IOR's I've used have all had great glass but the only model so far that has "all the right features" is the 3-18 mil FFP but I know the 3-18 model has a bit of history behind it...
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Fill out your profile, and perhaps there might be someone who is within a reasonable driving distance who has one or either of these scopes, theres a lot of folks on the Hide that will help you out. Don't drop your coin on a $1500 sccope before you look through it, good glass is a quality all on its own. Nightforce has a great rep and well deserved, several years ago IOR had many faults, from scope design to customer service, but it is many times better now and with every new model they come out with, their product improves.
Fill out your profile, and perhaps there might be someone who is within a reasonable driving distance who has one or either of these scopes, theres a lot of folks on the Hide that will help you out. Don't drop your coin on a $1500 sccope before you look through it, good glass is a quality all on its own. Nightforce has a great rep and well deserved, several years ago IOR had many faults, from scope design to customer service, but it is many times better now and with every new model they come out with, their product improves.
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IOR glass is better IMO. Durability of NF is unquestioned though. The newest IOR scopes are pretty nice. As far as one of the poster complaining about the reticle size at full power, he must not understand the SPF vs the FFP scopes
Either one is a good working concept, but it has to fit your intended uses or you will be disappointed regardless of the brand of scope.
IOR glass is better IMO. Durability of NF is unquestioned though. The newest IOR scopes are pretty nice. As far as one of the poster complaining about the reticle size at full power, he must not understand the SPF vs the FFP scopes
Either one is a good working concept, but it has to fit your intended uses or you will be disappointed regardless of the brand of scope.
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No comparison. The saying, "nice glass isn't everything" comes from companies like IOR. They have nice glass and coatings for a sweet picture - great. IME when it comes to reliability IOR hasn't quite figured that out yet. NXS good glass, repeatable and durable and reliable.
With that said, anything man made can break, I'm willing to bet that Nightforce has a much better track record in relation to this.
I know magnification is a matter of preference, but on a SASS I'd drop the magnification down a bit 3.5-15x is more than enough glass, unless you plan on long pokes on prairie dogs.
No comparison. The saying, "nice glass isn't everything" comes from companies like IOR. They have nice glass and coatings for a sweet picture - great. IME when it comes to reliability IOR hasn't quite figured that out yet. NXS good glass, repeatable and durable and reliable.
With that said, anything man made can break, I'm willing to bet that Nightforce has a much better track record in relation to this.
I know magnification is a matter of preference, but on a SASS I'd drop the magnification down a bit 3.5-15x is more than enough glass, unless you plan on long pokes on prairie dogs.
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Its apples and oranges. One is FFP and the other is SFP. You have to decide which you want, unless you are talking F1 and the IOR's.
Its apples and oranges. One is FFP and the other is SFP. You have to decide which you want, unless you are talking F1 and the IOR's.
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The reason I like the magnification is so I can kinda see any groups out to about 300yds with the scope. I have heard that less magnification has less lenses which gives you a clearer picture, is this true? Is that why alot of people like to "tone it down a bit" or is it something else?
Yea i know one is FFP and the other is SFP, that was one of my questions too, if I am going to keep it around 500yds and closer and most of my shooting will be done on a range where all the targets are at a known distance will the FFP be worth the extra money?. I also commented on that I would practice on some targets that are not at a known range so when I do leave the shooting range I won't be lost if I need to make a shot, I do realize that all of my shooting wont be range like.
The reason I like the magnification is so I can kinda see any groups out to about 300yds with the scope. I have heard that less magnification has less lenses which gives you a clearer picture, is this true? Is that why alot of people like to "tone it down a bit" or is it something else?
Yea i know one is FFP and the other is SFP, that was one of my questions too, if I am going to keep it around 500yds and closer and most of my shooting will be done on a range where all the targets are at a known distance will the FFP be worth the extra money?. I also commented on that I would practice on some targets that are not at a known range so when I do leave the shooting range I won't be lost if I need to make a shot, I do realize that all of my shooting wont be range like.
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If you know your ranges and are simply shooting paper, then SFP makes more sense IMO. Reticle will look smaller at higher magnifications and obstruct less of the target. For tactical shooting FFP makes more sense to me.
If you know your ranges and are simply shooting paper, then SFP makes more sense IMO. Reticle will look smaller at higher magnifications and obstruct less of the target. For tactical shooting FFP makes more sense to me.
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Asking that around here is like asking "2008 Detroit Lions or 2009 New Orleans Saints"?
All things considered, Nightforce is the safer choice for most.
However, IOR warranty replaces your scope with a new one for free if something happens, with turnaround time about a week. You likely won't get that with Nightforce.
Tracking, with the exposed knob IOR, has never been an issue. Glass has never been an issue. The reticle rocks. The albatross around IOR's neck has always been QC and build durability. It's up to them to shake that label. We hope the new scopes will go a long way in doing that, but only time will tell.
Scott
Asking that around here is like asking "2008 Detroit Lions or 2009 New Orleans Saints"?
All things considered, Nightforce is the safer choice for most.
However, IOR warranty replaces your scope with a new one for free if something happens, with turnaround time about a week. You likely won't get that with Nightforce.
Tracking, with the exposed knob IOR, has never been an issue. Glass has never been an issue. The reticle rocks. The albatross around IOR's neck has always been QC and build durability. It's up to them to shake that label. We hope the new scopes will go a long way in doing that, but only time will tell.
Scott
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
However, IOR warranty replaces your scope with a new one for free if something happens, with turnaround time about a week. You likely won't get that with Nightforce.
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The best part is you most likely won't need that with Nightforce either
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However, IOR warranty replaces your scope with a new one for free if something happens, with turnaround time about a week. You likely won't get that with Nightforce.
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The best part is you most likely won't need that with Nightforce either
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Rob,
LOL. I was waiting for you. Another walk down the same path.
Take care,
Scott
Rob,
LOL. I was waiting for you. Another walk down the same path.
Take care,
Scott
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: McKinneyMike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you know your ranges and are simply shooting paper, then SFP makes more sense IMO. Reticle will look smaller at higher magnifications and obstruct less of the target. For tactical shooting FFP makes more sense to me.</div></div>
spoken like a true pro......................an airsoft pro
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: McKinneyMike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you know your ranges and are simply shooting paper, then SFP makes more sense IMO. Reticle will look smaller at higher magnifications and obstruct less of the target. For tactical shooting FFP makes more sense to me.</div></div>
spoken like a true pro......................an airsoft pro
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Hi Scott,
I agree that IOR have very nice glass, they will get you another scope if it goes down, and the reticles are very nice. I personally would like to run one of IOR 6-24x56mm and see how it goes. I really like a lot of the IOR features.
Over the past 6 years of us selling Nightforce scopes there has only been 4 that I can remember going down. When 2 scopes went back to Nightforce they were fixed within 24hrs (this may not happen all the time). The 3rd scope took a little longer but I do not remember how long, and the fourth one that had issues was replaced by NF with a brand new one. Nightforce wanted it back to discover why it broke.
Mike @ CST
Hi Scott,
I agree that IOR have very nice glass, they will get you another scope if it goes down, and the reticles are very nice. I personally would like to run one of IOR 6-24x56mm and see how it goes. I really like a lot of the IOR features.
Over the past 6 years of us selling Nightforce scopes there has only been 4 that I can remember going down. When 2 scopes went back to Nightforce they were fixed within 24hrs (this may not happen all the time). The 3rd scope took a little longer but I do not remember how long, and the fourth one that had issues was replaced by NF with a brand new one. Nightforce wanted it back to discover why it broke.
Mike @ CST
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I like NF, and one of the biggest selling points was MADE in the USA!! and I have a USO coming in the mail soon, which is, MADE in the USA!! I think we should support our company's, their is not to many left
I like NF, and one of the biggest selling points was MADE in the USA!! and I have a USO coming in the mail soon, which is, MADE in the USA!! I think we should support our company's, their is not to many left
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Hi BOLTRIPPER. Was hoping to see you at the TBRC this year.
Mike @ CST
Hi BOLTRIPPER. Was hoping to see you at the TBRC this year.
Mike @ CST
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CSTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Scott,
I agree that IOR have very nice glass, they will get you another scope if it goes down, and the reticles are very nice. I personally would like to run one of IOR 6-24x56mm and see how it goes. I really like a lot of the IOR features.
Over the past 6 years of us selling Nightforce scopes there has only been 4 that I can remember going down. When 2 scopes went back to Nightforce they were fixed within 24hrs (this may not happen all the time). The 3rd scope took a little longer but I do not remember how long, and the fourth one that had issues was replaced by NF with a brand new one. Nightforce wanted it back to discover why it broke.
Mike @ CST
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Look carefully at my post.
Now, this isn't Mike CECIL at CST, right? Then who is it?
Scott
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CSTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Scott,
I agree that IOR have very nice glass, they will get you another scope if it goes down, and the reticles are very nice. I personally would like to run one of IOR 6-24x56mm and see how it goes. I really like a lot of the IOR features.
Over the past 6 years of us selling Nightforce scopes there has only been 4 that I can remember going down. When 2 scopes went back to Nightforce they were fixed within 24hrs (this may not happen all the time). The 3rd scope took a little longer but I do not remember how long, and the fourth one that had issues was replaced by NF with a brand new one. Nightforce wanted it back to discover why it broke.
Mike @ CST
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Look carefully at my post.
Now, this isn't Mike CECIL at CST, right? Then who is it?
Scott
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
for a nightforce would you buy a 50mm or a 56mm? I am familiar with moa turrets, (all my other previous optics) would I be better with the moa or learning a new mil system?
for a nightforce would you buy a 50mm or a 56mm? I am familiar with moa turrets, (all my other previous optics) would I be better with the moa or learning a new mil system?
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: abilliott</div><div class="ubbcode-body">for a nightforce would you buy a 50mm or a 56mm? I am familiar with moa turrets, (all my other previous optics) would I be better with the moa or learning a new mil system? </div></div>
You just answered your own question. Stick to what you know. As long as your turret adjustments match your reticle you will be fine. Of course there's a little more to this but for the simple part, you know MOA so keep it MOA.
50 or 56? Shouldn't matter much. 56mm MIGHT have better low light resolution over the 50 if its worth a damn. It's up to you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: abilliott</div><div class="ubbcode-body">for a nightforce would you buy a 50mm or a 56mm? I am familiar with moa turrets, (all my other previous optics) would I be better with the moa or learning a new mil system? </div></div>
You just answered your own question. Stick to what you know. As long as your turret adjustments match your reticle you will be fine. Of course there's a little more to this but for the simple part, you know MOA so keep it MOA.
50 or 56? Shouldn't matter much. 56mm MIGHT have better low light resolution over the 50 if its worth a damn. It's up to you.
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CSTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi BOLTRIPPER. Was hoping to see you at the TBRC this year.
Mike @ CST</div></div>
.....hope to see youze guys next time...........
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CSTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi BOLTRIPPER. Was hoping to see you at the TBRC this year.
Mike @ CST</div></div>
.....hope to see youze guys next time...........
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Look carefully at my post.
Now, this isn't Mike CECIL at CST, right? Then who is it?
Scott </div></div>
Sorry Scott but what did I miss?
Mike @ CST AKA Mike Cecil
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Look carefully at my post.
Now, this isn't Mike CECIL at CST, right? Then who is it?
Scott </div></div>
Sorry Scott but what did I miss?
Mike @ CST AKA Mike Cecil
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob,
LOL. I was waiting for you. Another walk down the same path.
Take care,
Scott</div></div>
Nah just messing with you a little
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rob,
LOL. I was waiting for you. Another walk down the same path.
Take care,
Scott</div></div>
Nah just messing with you a little
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
abilliott, you live in a small town with instructors of this caliber in it, go bang on their door and see what they might have to show you.
http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/
abilliott, you live in a small town with instructors of this caliber in it, go bang on their door and see what they might have to show you.
http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
having used IOR m2 in international competition they rock and track spot on. at 400m click to 4 and top scored in 08 in south africa service rifle champs 49/50.only used leupolds/ s&b/carls sniper scopes. have a busnell 10x now but looking for a IOR 4-14 as next scope. haven't looked at night force nxs only seen varmit/target made in japan. Have a USO sn12 back for fixing at moment, replaced with elcan. having used before are agreat scope.
having used IOR m2 in international competition they rock and track spot on. at 400m click to 4 and top scored in 08 in south africa service rifle champs 49/50.only used leupolds/ s&b/carls sniper scopes. have a busnell 10x now but looking for a IOR 4-14 as next scope. haven't looked at night force nxs only seen varmit/target made in japan. Have a USO sn12 back for fixing at moment, replaced with elcan. having used before are agreat scope.
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Got my 9-36 IOR in the other day and have compared it to my 12-42 nightforce as much as I can without actually going to the range. As far as glass goes I think the IOR has a slight edge, but both are very nice. I like the mp8 reticle in the IOR a lot. It is my favorite reticle that I have looked at. I like the big erek style elevatio knob on the IOR better than the nightforce knobs. The nightforce has much better clicks than the IOR. The IOR's clicks are mushy and barely audible ( I emailed IOR to see if they had a fix for this). So far, without testing the tracking and ability to hold zero, I would say the differences between the scopes are too small to say one is better than the other. I will give an update after my next trip to the range.
Got my 9-36 IOR in the other day and have compared it to my 12-42 nightforce as much as I can without actually going to the range. As far as glass goes I think the IOR has a slight edge, but both are very nice. I like the mp8 reticle in the IOR a lot. It is my favorite reticle that I have looked at. I like the big erek style elevatio knob on the IOR better than the nightforce knobs. The nightforce has much better clicks than the IOR. The IOR's clicks are mushy and barely audible ( I emailed IOR to see if they had a fix for this). So far, without testing the tracking and ability to hold zero, I would say the differences between the scopes are too small to say one is better than the other. I will give an update after my next trip to the range.
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
Coming from someone with your brain cell count, I take that as a compliment!
Coming from someone with your brain cell count, I take that as a compliment!
Re: IOR Tactical VS. NIGHTFORCE NXS
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1kz45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like NF, and one of the biggest selling points was MADE in the USA!! and I have a USO coming in the mail soon, which is, MADE in the USA!! I think we should support our company's, their is not to many left </div></div>
Funny,I had a NF a couple of years ago that said " MADE in JAPAN !! ". Not that it matters anyway. It was still Top Quality.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1kz45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like NF, and one of the biggest selling points was MADE in the USA!! and I have a USO coming in the mail soon, which is, MADE in the USA!! I think we should support our company's, their is not to many left </div></div>
Funny,I had a NF a couple of years ago that said " MADE in JAPAN !! ". Not that it matters anyway. It was still Top Quality.
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