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Iran attacks Israel start of WW3?

This latest conflagration in the middle east is disturbing but not as surprise. Ref: "Wag the Dog". Brandon was not polling well and the concerted efforts to put the political opposition in prison for a variety of "Trumped Up" charges was not going well either. What better way for Bernie (Weekend at Bernie's) to look presidential to the sheep then for the puppet master (O-man) to pull his strings and wave his arms and tell the Mullahs "Come on man!, I told you Don't". This is an age old conflict. And it ain't over folks. It was 45y ago when another feckless US Prez was being embarrassed by Iranian shenanigans. Until we/they bite the bullet and perform a massive restructure of the political and social landscape in that region of the world we cannot expect much to improve.

Next steps? 1.) Brandon and his puppet master will rattle sabers and tell Iran that they have been very bad. 2.) BeBe will listen to Brandon's sage counsel and then do whatever the fu#k he needs to do anyway. 3.) Iran will respond with more violence. 4.) Brandon will hide in his basement. 5.) MSNBC will blame Trump. It is his fault after all. If Trump were in office this would never happen. Right? 6.) As long as we continue to keep electing limp di#k mealy mouthed liberal fu#ktards to run the country, we really should not expect much to change. Instead we will slide more progressively toward a socialist utopia.

From my lens this new conflict was designed, or is being spun to aid old sleepy uncle Joe in his efforts to maintain power for the socialist regime here in the USA. Never waste a good crisis is in the communist play book. Joe stands up and proclaims "Don't". Iran stands up to Joe and says "Fu#k You!" What happens next? I cannot say but what I can say is it will not be good. Let me speculate: While all eyes are on Israel and Iran, a group of the young military age Iranian men who have been walking into the USA across the US/Mexico border have been organizing terror cells in various parts of the USA. These Islamic terrorists are playing a long game. They claim they are from Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico and claim names like Miguel, Luiz, Juan. They speak Spanish and we welcome them in without vetting or question. Now they gather and roam in small groups looking for ways to cripple America. Our economy and financial markets are a house of cards and literally need only a small push to tumble down. So, if I were in their shoes? Luckily, I am not. Armageddon will not be fun. Time is short me thinks.
Don't forget about all the Chinese who have been coming in, mostly military age young men. The Chinese are already in bed with the cartels to flood our country with fentanyl to destroy our young people. Iran has been at war with us since the 70's since they took over our embassy under Peanut head Jimmy Carter.
As I think I've posted here before in another thread, I know some Iranians who came here legally and they are good people, smart and hard working. I'd venture to say a large portion of the Iranian populace are not Islamic fanatics.
But at this juncture, I say "nuke them from orbit!"
Not one American boot should be on the ground.
Oh, and don't forget, it's all Trumps fault. ;)
 
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Alex what are….

American Citizens of Japanese ancestry…..


Valid point, I lost sight of the fact that the Japanese were not just interned for the war, but were forced to sell real property at below market rates.

On the one hand, it is a "wrong" in the sense of justice (which I would argue is solely and exclusively a Western/European/American concept), on the other hand, there was a war and the winner's typically don't pay the bills for the losers. It would not be unreasonable to require the government of Japan to provide compensation to those individuals. Their group lost and they should pay the expenses associated with their people losing, even if those expenses were incurred by their people in another country and not in the mother country.

We could spend a weekend long seminar debating whether WW2 should have happened, would have happened, whether Japan was justified in attacking the USA, whether the USA provoked Japan into attacking because the US wanted to escalate into war, and that would be an interesting discussion, but I believe we can all agree Japan ultimately lost the war, and beyond that, typically the loser pays war reparations and other costs associated with the war. Seldom does the winner pay the losers bills.

Let us turn briefly to the wisdom of Cicero, Inter arma enim silent leges.

In any event, the United States was at war and had a basic national right to prosecute the war in such a manner deemed fitting and proper to assure or increase the likelihood of victory. The Supreme Court held in Korematsu v United States that the internment of Japanese and their exclusion from the Western Seaboard areas was a permissible exercise of executive power during war-time. The first and most important rule in a war or a fight is "survive" with the second most important rule being "win or at least don't lose" everything else is academics and to be left to future debate by philosophers, historians, professors, academics, military theorists. The first two rules help assure that there are future generations around to debate how and why this happened or if it had to go down that way. Was it wrong (morally) to round up Japanese Americans? Maybe it was, on the other hand maybe it was necessary and perhaps if we had failed to do so we would have lost the Battle of Midway, lost a number of other key battles, and lost the war. We cannot know how things might have turned out in some hypothetical.


In American law, the "American rule" is that each side generally pays their own attorney's fees absent a contractual provision, a statute authorizing recovery of fees, or some finding of bad faith on the part of one party.

In many other jurisdictions, the rule is simply, "loser pays."

I have never seen a jurisdiction of "winner pays the losers fees."

When a country suffers a defeat and occupation in a war, they lost, everything else is just theoretical discussion at that point.


In terms of justice, it is interesting to note that as a general rule, only Westerners are concerned about doing justice, especially in regards to dealings with non-Westerners. I have seldom ever seen a non-Westerner who was concerned about anything other than acquiring more resources and benefits for himself and his immediate group, whether at the expense of other non-Westerners not of his particular group, or at the expense of Westerners.


I have only once in my entire life and legal career seen a case [not my own, but a case I was aware of and following] where a plaintiff prevailed on their claims and was then ordered to pay the attorney fees of the losing defendant. Specifically it was due to social media posts about the attractiveness of defense counsel and how the plaintiff "would do her if given the chance" which the female judge said was inappropriate and needed to be punished, "lest men think they can say anything they want about women." I believe it should have been an easy First Amendment appeal, because there is no authorization for a judge to award attorney fees to a losing party based on an out of court social media post by the prevailing plaintiff about his sexual desire for defense counsel, however the appeal was apparently poorly done as the plaintiff lost the appeal.
 
Don't forget about all the Chinese who have been coming in, mostly military age young men. The Chinese are already in bed with the cartels to flood our country with fentanyl to destroy our young people. Iran has been at war with us since the 70's since they took over our embassy under Peanut head Jimmy Carter.
As I think I've posted here before in another thread, I know some Iranians who came here legally and they are good people, smart and hard working. I'd venture to say a large portion of the Iranian populace are not Islamic fanatics.
But at this juncture, I say "nuke them from orbit!"
Not one American boot should be on the ground.
Oh, and don't forget, it's all Trumps fault. ;)


The USA could isolate China if we worked with Russia and Iran. Hell even North Korea would cooperate if it meant they could break free from China's leash and avoid being toppled by American undermining of their regime. However, we cannot really work with Iran unless either Israel backs down in the region or we cut Israel loose.
 
You all worrying about killing in the middle east....pffft, most everyone I know is celebrating Burt Gummer day 4/14 every year!


Today we all get excited, anxious, and fixated on killing in the Middle East and Central Asia. We should be concerned about the fact that we could be less than 8 months from serious stuff going down in the USA.
 
Well this devolved rather quickly.

This thread?

The political situation in the Middle East?

American culture and politics?

Everything devolves rather quickly, at least in human terms.

In geological terms, things take a while to devolve.
 
Today we all get excited, anxious, and fixated on killing in the Middle East and Central Asia. We should be concerned about the fact that we could be less than 8 months from serious stuff going down in the USA.
Excited? Anxious? Fixated on killing in the middle east, I think not. Some are popcorn stocked, for act II. Had act I been handled properly in 1978, act II would be a none issue. Never finishing a task is SOP for the US, because what comes after is always more bankable.
 
Excited? Anxious? Fixated on killing in the middle east, I think not. Some are popcorn stocked, for act II. Had act I been handled properly in 1978, act II would be a none issue. Never finishing a task is SOP for the US, because what comes after is always more bankable.


The United States has a very poor history of handling wars, fighting wars, and dealing with the aftermath of wars.

The United States has significant problems when facing peer or near-peer adversaries, and while the USA tends to be on the winning side, it seldom does the extremely heavy lifting and it tends to rely on mass production and extreme logistical advantages, which are great things to rely on because it means less lives are lost.
 
We can't avoid WW3, war has been a staple since man appeared on earth. Invest in two companies to make big money, those who supply bandages and bullets . Our odds were good to win before Biden took office , now I would say our chance are not that high after 7.2 million have crossed our borders. Honestly I can't fault Biden for this for we allowed this invasion to occur due to our years of servitude to the asshats who took over. I shouldn't refer to them as asshats for they were playing chess while the sheep were playing checkers. One must decide now to choose patriotism or self preservation .......
 
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The United States has a very poor history of handling wars, fighting wars, and dealing with the aftermath of wars.
That is do to the public thinking it has the right to know everything and while I agree to a point, they need understand they may not have the ability to understand or stomach the why at times.
 
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Lets turn back to conspiracy theories , it was all a sham show

Iran saves face , Israel claims a win reclaiming some favor after the genocide in Gaza , Raytheon gets at least years worth of new orders ,US taxpayer gets fleeced for new aid package

But what is going on with dug missile craters

GLJoI8lXgAAFZmu
 
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I have worked as a janitor, postal clerk, general labor, and a lab tech. I wasn't born with a law degree in my hand. Some of us wanted to do more than what our father, grandfather, and great grandfather did. Some of us didn't want to stick around and rot going nowhere in Appalachia, while others wanted to stay behind and behave like crabs in the bucket, talking trash at anybody who gets out or wants to get out.

Were you an E4 before you were invited to not re-enlist and to leave? How many JAG got you out of the messes you made for yourself?

The USA has been lost because no collection of blue collar hammer swingers will ever form the foundation for a cultural and ideological movement. There is no "right wing intellectual cultural" in the USA because anybody capable of thinking is derided as having "no real skills."

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Well, I must indeed apprehend that your above comment is infested with arrogance and displays a modicum of ignorance. If you have expended any of your inestimably valued time with many of the more intellectually superlative "hammer swingers" you would indeed observe a vibrant and developing culture.

Your statement evinces a lack of manly firmness in your own character that is obscured by your compensatory methods, to wit; over education of one's self, and subsequent attachment of one's identity and self valuation to his level of education.
 
That reveals a startling lack of understanding of history.

In Rhodesia in the 1940s-1950s there were thriving vibrant African [black] owned farms, the white minority colonial government passed laws to nationalize and seize all of those farms so they could be broken up and then distributed as homesteads to newly arriving white working class immigrants, largely poor English and Portuguese. I recall reading about a legal case in the late 1950s whereby a thriving 400 hectacre black commercial farm was on the chopping bloc, the man's white neighbor tried to help him with the legal case, but the highest court in Rhodesia approved the seizure and the farm was broken up and parceled out to newly arriving poor working class white immigrants from the Portuguese Empire and elsewhere in the British Empire.

If my parents had lost their farm to a government that took it to give it away to people on the basis of skin color, I would absolutely be interested in pushing my claims to get it back once that previous government was gone.

Broadly speaking, a significant number of the farms in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe are existing on stolen land with the thieves or the beneficiaries of the theft still being alive and the victims or their immediate offspring/descendants still being alive.

If I stole your father's classic Shelby Mustang and gave it to my son, then your father died, you would likely want it back, even if it had already been delivered to my son. You would understandably and rightly insist, "I want my father's car back." You would have a living memory of the car having been your fathers and of my theft of the car.


The more I study the land situation in Zimbabwe the far less sympathy I have for the beneficiaries of the land theft. On the other hand, about half of all of the original white owned farms, going back to the late 1800s and early 1900s, were operations begun on vacant/barren/fallow land, and many of the beneficiaries of the seizures are just Zimbabwe party functionaries and international bankers promoting agribusiness, so that is pretty crappy.

It is an "oh well, what can you do" situation, but to say, "white farmers good, let them all keep *their* land" ignores the fact that much of it was never *their* land, and that numerous thriving black farms were trampled underfoot to make way for small homesteads being given to the scum of the Portuguese and British slums who were brought to Rhodesia as part of a policy to boost white numbers via attracting destitute and working class whites with the enticement of the offer of "free" farm land. The government had to get that "free" land from somewhere, and that somewhere was expropriation of black farm land.



If I were in charge of the legal system, I personally wouldn't compensate any [white] farmers in Zimbabwe who lost "their" land as a result of the end of the policies implemented under the Land Apportionment Act of 1930.


Did Romans living in Gaul get compensated when the Franks, Burgundians, and other Germanics arrived?

These things happen as part of historical reality. People lose land. Land changes hands. Africans had land prior to the 1800s, they lost it for about 100 years, then they regained it back. I'm not inclined to feel too sorry for people [Rhodesians] who lost "their" land because they were unable to hold onto it. I don't feel sorry for people who wound up on the losing end of a struggle, even if they share my skin color. They were on "stolen" land and were not strong enough to hold onto it.

TLDGAF.
 
What does it have to do with this, other than being mental masturbation on your part?


Are you trying to say that Muslims are justified in their actions? Iran is justified in their proxy war? You actually think they give a shit about Gaza?

Where in the fuck did I bring up any of that?

My response was to the fucking duck about first world issues.
 
Lets turn back to conspiracy theories , it was all a sham show

Iran saves face , Israel claims a win 99% intercepts , Raytheon gets at least years worth of new orders ,US taxpayer gets fleced for new aid package

But what is going on with dug missile craters

GLJoI8lXgAAFZmu
New missile design stockpiles the soil neatly next to the crater so the contractor who wins the contract to fill them back in makes more money.
 
That is do to the public thinking it has the right to know everything and while I agree to a point, they need understand they may not have the ability to understand or stomach the why at times.


Disagree, the USA did extremely poorly in most of the wars of the 1800s, did fairly poorly [all things considered] in WW1, and didn't do that great in WW2 on the tactical level. That was well before the era of "the public demanding this and that."

The USA is a like a mediocre athlete who has never faced a champion in his prime, believing that he is invincible because of having been able to defeat a few "over the hill past their prime" former champions and having been able to curb-stomp a few lesser contenders.

The USA has *never* been toe to toe with any near equal power in its prime.

In 1944 the USA was fighting against about 15-25% of the German Wehrmacht, which represented a fraction on their combat power, and it was a badly depleted and under-supplied force at that, and the going was still horrifically slow.

The US has tended to be extremely weak at the tactical and operational level in most situations. The USA tends to do well with logistics, economics, production, and mobilizing the economy for a war, which are all good things to have going for your side, but in terms of a US infantry squad out-fighting a German infantry squad, the USA did fairly poorly in that regard. A typical US 105mm or 155mm howitzer in 1944 was allocated no less than 400 shells per day, while Germans received less than 30 shells per day for their howitzers. In the firepower war [which flows from economics and logistics] the USA simply drowned the Germans with firepower.
 
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Well, I must indeed apprehend that your above comment is infested with arrogance and displays a modicum of ignorance. If you have expended any of your inestimably valued time with many of the more intellectually superlative "hammer swingers" you would indeed observe a vibrant and developing culture.

Your statement evinces a lack of manly firmness in your own character that is obscured by your compensatory methods, to wit; over education of one's self, and subsequent attachment of one's identity and self valuation to his level of education.


Cool story, looks like you broke out your thesaurus to write it.
 
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As a group/movement/ideology in the USA, the conservative right has been promoting a culture of anti-intellectualism since at least the 1940s, which helps explain why the country has fallen to leftist intellectuals over the course of a cultural revolution that began in the 1950s, bore fruit for the Left in the 1960s and 1970s, and is continuing, largely unchallenged on an ideological level, to this day.


Of the 55 delegates who attended the Constitutional Convention...

35 were lawyers, judges, or had legal education.
13 were merchants, businessmen, or ship-owners.
6 were significant land speculators.
11 were significant speculators of securities.
12 owned or managed slave plantations or large farms worked by slaves.
9 received most of their income from public office.
3 were retired.
2 were scientists.
3 were physicians.
1 was a university president.
1 was an ordained minister.
3 others had studied theology in an academic setting but were not formally ordained.]


The most common occupations were law, business, and slave-owning.


I didn't see "ditch digger" or blacksmith on the list, not that those occupations are not important or somehow unnecessary, but the blue collar mentality of, "I has bulging biceps and do real work, you nerd no have real skillz" doesn't build a nation or result in the formation of a government.

Obviously the numbers are higher than 55, which means it isn't mutually exclusive. It is possible to be a retired lawyer who is also a slave-owner, or a lawyer who studied theology and is also a land speculator, or a physician who is also a ship-owner who studied law.


There are generally two responses/reactions I get when I divulge I am a lawyer, either everybody in the room immediately assumes I am the smartest guy in the room and they defer to me on all matters [which isn't really warranted] or they get a knee-jerk reflexive reaction of what I would call "blue collar rage" and they feel the need to "put me in my place" by insisting I have no real skills and cannot "do real work." Those two reactions summarize the sad state of affairs of the society, because neither reaction is warranted.

Most of the lawyers I know were doing things other than law before they became lawyers, some were enlisted military personnel before they went to undergrad on the GI bill and then law school (one of my friends/colleagues was 0311 for 8 years before becoming a lawyer], some did agricultural work and went into law to handle the legal aspects of their family ranch, but they all did something prior to law; so yes they do have "real skills" to do "real work." Likewise, we're seldom the smartest on every single possible topic under the Sun, but in a society where few people have a classical education as the foundation of their education, the words of a classically educated man should tend to carry more weight than people who brag about their lack of formal education and who would be unlikely to be able to spell the names of Cicero, Cassius Dio, Tacitus, Plutarch, Livy, and Polybius, let alone discuss who they were and why their ideas matter.

The American Right thinks that Ben Shapiro is an intellectual, Rush Limbaugh was an intellectual, and other "commentators, critiques, cynics, and talking heads" constitute intellectuals and philosophers in the realm of advancing theoretical thought.


If all that was posted was, "Come attend a week-long conference of 35 lawyers and judges, a university president, 2 scientists, and 3 physicians" most modern "conservatives" would snicker and make some snide remark about "a bunch of losers who can't do real work, no thanks!"
 
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I have worked as a janitor, postal clerk, general labor, and a lab tech. I wasn't born with a law degree in my hand. Some of us wanted to do more than what our father, grandfather, and great grandfather did. Some of us didn't want to stick around and rot going nowhere in Appalachia, while others wanted to stay behind and behave like crabs in the bucket, talking trash at anybody who gets out or wants to get out.

Were you an E4 before you were invited to not re-enlist and to leave? How many JAG got you out of the messes you made for yourself?

The USA has been lost because no collection of blue collar hammer swingers will ever form the foundation for a cultural and ideological movement. There is no "right wing intellectual cultural" in the USA because anybody capable of thinking is derided as having "no real skills."

Thanks.

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Go back and review what you wrote about, by your words, your father and grandfather.
You bought it so preach it.
You clearly think only those who have attended "higher learning" can think.
Rub some experience on your "education" and see if you still know everything.

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As a group/movement/ideology in the USA, the conservative right has been promoting a culture of anti-intellectualism since at least the 1940s, which helps explain why the country has fallen to leftist intellectuals over the course of a cultural revolution that began in the 1950s, bore fruit for the Left in the 1960s and 1970s, and is continuing, largely unchallenged on an ideological level, to this day.


Of the 55 delegates who attended the Constitutional Convention...

35 were lawyers, judges, or had legal education.
13 were merchants, businessmen, or ship-owners.
6 were significant land speculators.
11 were significant speculators of securities.
12 owned or managed slave plantations or large farms worked by slaves.
9 received most of their income from public office.
3 were retired.
2 were scientists.
3 were physicians.
1 was a university president.
1 was an ordained minister.
3 others had studied theology in an academic setting but were not formally ordained.]


The most common occupations were law, business, and slave-owning.


I didn't see "ditch digger" or blacksmith on the list, not that those occupations are not important or somehow unnecessary, but the blue collar mentality of, "I has bulging biceps and do real work, you nerd no have real skillz" doesn't build a nation or result in the formation of a government.

Obviously the numbers are higher than 55, which means it isn't mutually exclusive. It is possible to be a retired lawyer who is also a slave-owner, or a lawyer who studied theology and is also a land speculator, or a physician who is also a ship-owner who studied law.


There are generally two responses/reactions I get when I divulge I am a lawyer, either everybody in the room immediately assumes I am the smartest guy in the room and they defer to me on all matters [which isn't really warranted] or they get a knee-jerk reflexive reaction of what I would call "blue collar rage" and they feel the need to "put me in my place" by insisting I have no real skills and cannot "do real work." Those two reactions summarize the sad state of affairs of the society, because neither reaction is warranted.

Most of the lawyers I know were doing things other than law before they became lawyers, some were enlisted military personnel before they went to undergrad on the GI bill and then law school (one of my friends/colleagues was 0311 for 8 years before becoming a lawyer], some did agricultural work and went into law to handle the legal aspects of their family ranch, but they all did something prior to law; so yes they do have "real skills" to do "real work." Likewise, we're seldom the smartest on every single possible topic under the Sun, but in a society where few people have a classical education as the foundation of their education, the words of a classically educated man should tend to carry more weight than people who brag about their lack of formal education and who would be unlikely to be able to spell the names of Cicero, Cassius Dio, Tacitus, Plutarch, Livy, and Polybius, let alone discuss who they were and why their ideas matter.

The American Right thinks that Ben Shapiro is an intellectual, Rush Limbaugh was an intellectual, and other "commentators, critiques, cynics, and talking heads" constitute intellectuals and philosophers in the realm of advancing theoretical thought.


If all that was posted was, "Come attend a week-long conference of 35 lawyers and judges, a university president, 2 scientists, and 3 physicians" most modern "conservatives" would snicker and make some snide remark about "a bunch of losers who can't do real work, no thanks!"
Can you do us all a favor and stop writing chapters about yourself in a thread about a current conflict?
 
Id say Iran 🇮🇷 already has a nuke too. In fact id bet on it

Iran likely has *a nuclear warhead* or a few nuclear warheads.

In the realm of international politics and nuclear deterrent, the only thing worse than having *no nuclear weapons* is having one or two nuclear weapons or a handful of warheads with no credible delivery system.

Iran likely has a few nuclear warheads, without any credible delivery system. Also, barring direct assistance from Pakistan or North Korea, Iran will take many years to achieve warhead miniaturization. Iran likely has a nuclear weapon [or a few] but not in any significant number and not with any credible delivery system.

Having a few nuclear weapons without any real delivery system, means you are a target for those powers that want to disarm you or launch a pre-emptive strike before your arsenal becomes meaningful and factors into international relations and world affairs.

Iran will likely play the long game and keep quiet until they have several dozen warheads, they are miniaturized, and they have a solid delivery system capable of delivering warheads to at least their targets in Israel. If Iran can threaten Israel with nuclear destruction, then the USA and Israel will back down in the region. As a hijacked power the USA will never do anything that puts Israel in danger.
 
Go back and review what you wrote about, by your words, your father and grandfather.
You bought it so preach it.
You clearly think only those who have attended "higher learning" can think.
Rub some experience on your "education" and see if you still know everything.

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You don't need to attend formal schooling to get educated or to learn things, but I have found that the people who brag they never had any formal education beyond age 18, also tend to be the same people who barely have a command of the English language, don't know any foreign languages, don't know Ancient Greek or Latin, and have never read the Classics.

The idea of, "I am a self-taught man" really only counts for something if you actually taught yourself some things.

Which philosophical school of thought do you identify with? Platonists? Aristotelians, Empiricists, Rationalists, Existentialists? What is the last work of philosophy you read? If you're self-taught what precisely are you teaching yourself?


Frankly, if somebody came along and said, "I'm a self-taught Army Ranger" and we asked, "what do you mean by that?" and he said, "I never went to Ranger School but I obtained their manuals and I put myself through all of their course work" we would [rightly] laugh our collective asses off at that man.

Some things are meant to be learned in a formal setting, and a classical education, along with a youthful initiation into martial arts, is probably the best foundation for a young person. If you can fight but can't think about why or how you are fighting, then what good is that? It is as useless as being able to think but not being able to fight.

The reason we have lost the United States and the West in general is because three generations of rednecks have raised their kids to think that "30 years of manual labor experience is the only way to be a real man and doing any work that involves having a university education means you are a chump who can't hack real work." This is why almost every single corporation is woke, why the medical industry is woke, why large engineering firms are woke, why even large defense manufacturing and heavy industry have gone work. Being able to handle working a blast furnace doesn't qualify you to administer and manage an entire steel manufacturing company, and if all you've done is load the coke for 30 years, you're not qualified to move up beyond shift supervisor.
 
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Sure gave enough to feel the need to post that.

Wouldn't want to strain your brain, you need those precious cells for fantasy football.

I care even less about football, baseball, soccer, tennis, basketball or any other sport that is a complete waste of time.

Remember, you replied to my post first, so....
 
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Don't forget about all the Chinese who have been coming in, mostly military age young men. The Chinese are already in bed with the cartels to flood our country with fentanyl to destroy our young people. Iran has been at war with us since the 70's since they took over our embassy under Peanut head Jimmy Carter.
As I think I've posted here before in another thread, I know some Iranians who came here legally and they are good people, smart and hard working. I'd venture to say a large portion of the Iranian populace are not Islamic fanatics.
But at this juncture, I say "nuke them from orbit!"
Not one American boot should be on the ground.
Oh, and don't forget, it's all Trumps fault. ;)
Good post. IMO China is more to blame for a lot of what happens than what most people think or want to believe. They own/bought the Democrat party, starting when they bribed Bill Clinton to give them most favored nation status when he was president. The "Cabel" that's been referred to on this site is in bed with the Chinese too due to economics and money. As Sgt. John McLain would say "its always about the money"
 
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The reason we have lost the United States and the West in general is because three generations of rednecks have raised their kids to think that "30 years of manual labor experience is the only way to be a real man and doing any work that involves having a university education means you are a chump who can't hack real work." This is why almost every single corporation is woke, why the medical industry is woke, why large engineering firms are woke, why even large defense manufacturing and heavy industry have gone work. Being able to handle working a blast furnace doesn't qualify you to administer and manage an entire steel manufacturing company, and if all you've done is load the coke for 30 years, you're not qualified to move up beyond shift supervisor.
Pure leftist bullshit. The colleges and universities are where the commies STARTED taking over and brainwashing 3 generations with commie principles that led to the self-destructive wokeness we see today.
 
You don't need to attend formal schooling to get educated or to learn things, but I have found that the people who brag they never had any formal education beyond age 18, also tend to be the same people who barely have a command of the English language, don't know any foreign languages, don't know Ancient Greek or Latin, and have never read the Classics.

The idea of, "I am a self-taught man" really only counts for something if you actually taught yourself some things.

Which philosophical school of thought do you identify with? Platonists? Aristotelians, Empiricists, Rationalists, Existentialists? What is the last work of philosophy you read? If you're self-taught what precisely are you teaching yourself?


Frankly, if somebody came along and said, "I'm a self-taught Army Ranger" and we asked, "what do you mean by that?" and he said, "I never went to Ranger School but I obtained their manuals and I put myself through all of their course work" we would [rightly] laugh our collective asses off at that man.

Some things are meant to be learned in a formal setting, and a classical education, along with a youthful initiation into martial arts, is probably the best foundation for a young person. If you can fight but can't think about why or how you are fighting, then what good is that? It is as useless as being able to think but not being able to fight.

The reason we have lost the United States and the West in general is because three generations of rednecks have raised their kids to think that "30 years of manual labor experience is the only way to be a real man and doing any work that involves having a university education means you are a chump who can't hack real work." This is why almost every single corporation is woke, why the medical industry is woke, why large engineering firms are woke, why even large defense manufacturing and heavy industry have gone work. Being able to handle working a blast furnace doesn't qualify you to administer and manage an entire steel manufacturing company, and if all you've done is load the coke for 30 years, you're not qualified to move up beyond shift supervisor.
TLDR.
We've had/have lawyers on here before.
@MosesTheTank
One that comes to mind.
Never saw him come off as a pretentious prick.
Be like him.

Like all conceited fucks you think you've the answers to all the problems caused/allowed by the previous generations.
If so why didn't the previous gens of law grads fix the shit you think you have figured out?


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Pure leftist bullshit. The colleges and universities are where the commies STARTED taking over and brainwashing 3 generations with commie principles that led to the self-destructive wokeness we see today.

The same reason most courts are seldom seen being presided over by Protestant judges, the Protestant churches taught their flocks, "society is wicked, withdraw from it" so we went from having a Supreme Court that was entirely Protestant to one where the only two ways to get on the Court are "be Catholic or be Jewish."

You say, "those who can't do, teach" and insist none of your offspring become teachers or professors, effectively surrendering those professions to leftists, then you snicker, "schools and universities are all leftist!"

If your children were so poorly raised they cannot recognize and reject Marxist propaganda just because it comes from an older dude wearing a suit standing behind a lectern, that is your fault. I guess if all you did was send your kids to public school and hope they would become critical thinkers able to recognize bad ideas when they hear them, that is on you.
 
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Pure leftist bullshit. The colleges and universities are where the commies STARTED taking over and brainwashing 3 generations with commie principles that led to the self-destructive wokeness we see today.


Communists infiltrated the Treasury Department, State Department, Hollywood, and the established media, LONG before they took over the universities. But you're free to believe as you like, ignorance of history is not a crime in the USA.
 
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Communists infiltrated the Treasury Department, State Department, Hollywood, and the established media, LONG before they took over the universities. But you're free to believe as you like, ignorance of history is not a crime in the USA.
So you agree they took over the universities and only teach woke indoctrination, but still insist anybody with a university "education" is superior to us knuckledraggers on all levels.
 
So you agree they took over the universities and only teach woke indoctrination, but still insist anybody with a university "education" is superior to us knuckledraggers on all levels.

It might shock you to learn that your doctor has a university education, your accountant has a university education, any lawyer you have ever used has a university education, and the car you drive was designed by a team of engineers who have university educations.

How many cars have you designed? How many cases have you litigated? How many estates have you probated? How many illnesses have you diagnosed or treated?
 
It might shock you to learn that your doctor has a university education, your accountant has a university education, any lawyer you have ever used has a university education, and the car you drive was designed by a team of engineers who have university educations.

How many cars have you designed? How many cases have you litigated? How many estates have you probated? How many illnesses have you diagnosed or treated?
Your hubris is off the charts. Maybe you should work the book Humble Inquiry into your busy reading schedule. It might help. Oh, before you tell me that I am an uneducated, conservative wretch, please consider that I have a PhD, have studied French and Spanish, and have been published in many journals in addition to presenting at numerous national conferences dealing with leadership. Having said this, if my air conditioning goes out, I don’t ask the person who shows up to fix it where they went to school. I appreciate the fact that they can make my house cool again. I also appreciate the opinions that are shared with me by other people, regardless of their education or vocation. You should give it a try too.
Finally, I will leave you with a little food for thought since you like to try and flex your vocabulary in here.
“If you care about being thought credible and intelligent, do not use complex language where simpler language will do” (Kahneman, 2011, p.63).